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Duncan Keith suspended 5 games for hit on Daniel Sedin

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03-23-2012, 05:44 PM
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he should have been suspended for the entire playoffs. Hits like this cannot be tolerated.

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About what I expected. Good call by Shanny.

I'm hoping for Van-Chi match up. Hopefully it will get ugly
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Way to send a message this year, you starte with huge suspensions, gm's complained and now you give out crappy suspensions.

this is not going to stop headshotting, this 4 game 5 game crap is gonna change NOTHING.

take a step out of the NFL books NHL

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Torres hit was clean, Rome got 48 games. Keith got 5...
He got four games --- albeit playoff games.

This 48 game stuff is a byproduct of Shanahan spouting off like a fool. 12 to 1 ratio between playoff games to regular season...... what a complete bozo!

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against superstar players ?
Are you really suggesting that had he done the exact same thing to a 4th liner you would be okay with it ?

It's bad enough that some people want the extent of the injury to DICTATE the length of a suspension, but so say well Sedin is a superstar so you get 10 but feel free to go and elbow Staubitz all you want because really, who is gonna miss him ?

5 for a first time offender is about right. Could it have been 7, sure I think it was worse then the bourque one but people calling for the rest of the season and the first round are crazy.

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Should've been more - 7 and up. That was a ****ed up elbow.
I will agree with you just because of your avatar. No other reason.

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Couple of thoughts

1) There are some people here that really haven't learned anything from the Bertuzzi incident.

2) Other than the Bertuzzi incident, when have we really seen teams doing what people in this thread are suggesting. Let's call up a goon and bash in Kopitar's face since we might play LA in the playoffs. Well I guess we can just cheapshot other team's stars since it's only a 5 game suspension. Yes, there have been cheapshots in the history of the NHL, but when has any of that type of suggestions actually been followed through on? Teams for the most part haven't reacted that way in the past. Why is this hit going to be different?

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Wizard got 8 games when he was a repeat offender who went headhunting after the game ended. DK got too many games if your using Wiz's suspension as the precedent. NOTE- not saying the suspension was too short.

Hope Daniel is 100% and playing soon.
Of course Daniel's 100%. He was just pretending to get Keith's suspension number up. I have good word on here from some Nova Scotian that Daniel will back for the Nucks' next game against Colorado tomorrow, err, against LA when their road trip's over, errrr, sometime soon. Point being, it's all a hoax! Rabble rabble rabble. Canucks are the true criminals here. Free Keith. One love. Peace.


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Nobody will ever be satisfied.

You give him 25 and people freak out that it's too much.

You give him 10 and people freak out that it's inconsistent with the Bourque hit.

You give him 5 and people freak out that it's not enough even though it is consistent. Half the people here STILL cry that it's inconsistent even though it is quite obviously consistent given the precedent


So what the **** do you people want? At some point you need to realize that Shanahan has a job that, by its very nature, will never be done perfectly.

Live with it. A five game ban can certainly be justified given the rules in the book and the precedent set before.



And also, I'm honestly laughing at the people who bring up the Rome hit...that was a different guy in charge. It is completely irrelevant.

Agreed with the first 80%, well done. However, Rome is relevent because the topic is suspension length - obviously the two hits were different.

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Based on precedent, the league gave Keith essentially exactly what was to be expected.

He deserved more, but the NHL looks stupid either way. You make an example out of a clean player who was guilty of a bad, bad hit and give him a bigger suspension than expected, or you give the player the suspension that follows the precedent set by other, similar hits. The NHL chose the latter in what was ultimately a lose-lose situation.

Not exactly surprising. Were people really expecting more than 5? That was the upper bound of what I thought he'd get.
Based on the request for an in-person hearing, that shouldn't have been your expected upper bound. That is definitive evidence that there was real consideration of raising the current standard with a 6+ game suspension. Ultimately the League backed off on that, which shows (to me) that they are not going in the right direction.

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Yes, it's a joke that Shanahan didnt give Rome a different penalty...

Oh wait, something doesnt sound right.
oh ur right Aaron Rome was suspended for 48 games.

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every single one of those were clean hits....and legal..
You're funny.

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About what I expected. Good call by Shanny.

I'm hoping for Van-Chi match up. Hopefully it will get ugly
Yes let's hope for more possible life-ruining injuries to entertain us




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will be ugly for chicago
good luck making it out of the first round....then worry about the Hawks or whoever...

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....so now Keith should have been destroyed...eh?

dont like it when someone gets dirty on your team?

its called Karma..

I think Keith should have been suspended, but I would just chalk this up to overdue payback for some of the gutless goonery the Canucks have done over the past few seasons...
Mind enlightening me on some of this gutless goonery? I don't even think the Canucks have been involved in any incidents this season at all...

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Worst hit since Cooke on Savard. Possibly worse.

Hawks are done in the first round anyway so he could have at least sent a message by giving the cheap shot artist the rest of the season and playoffs for a suspension.

Shanahan is a coward.

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Compare this to Aaron Rome throwing a little late hit and suspended for 4 games in the SCF... ****ing Joke NHL.
Mike Murphy made that suspension with a group... what does this have to do with Shanahan?

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Wow.. This is the perfect setup for another Vancouver Chicago first round clash

Vancouver stays at 2
The Hawks drop to 7

Best NHL ratings, most epic series ever
Whoever survives won't have nothing left

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I agree there's a serious problem with the suspension he handed to Keith. I'm ok with not penalizing hits that injure players overly harshly so long as the hit was a HOCKEY PLAY that got out of hand, such as shoulder coming up to the head or what have you.

But this Keith hit which was a blatant attempt to hurt Sedin when he didn't have the puck and was a completely illegal hit and just not a hockey play.

Neither was the Bourque hit on Backstrom.

Both Keith and Bourque should have had to sit for seriously 25 games for that (and I'm not exaggerating for effect). Again, I'm not a soft hockey-guy, I actually am all for no suspensions for hits to the head that just happen to happen throughout the game due to player miscalculation.

But when you are throwing a disgusting hit with intent to injure when the guy doesn't even have the puck: that doesn't belong in hockey and neither should the offender for a long period of time.
I basically agree with this. I'm willing to be very lenient about mistakes, but when it's completely clear that a hit served zero purpose except for injuring the other player, and was 100% intentional, a 5 game suspension is a bit of a joke.

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I still remember all the times the Nucks tried to "exact revenge" on Byfuglien in the playoffs.

In conclusion, I hope if we play Vancouver in the playoffs they waste their time trying to do it. Unfortunately I think they're smarter than that now.

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for future reference, Campbell made no decision regarding the Bruins

as he said, Murphy made any decision where a Bruins player was the recipient or the culprit
Except as we know Campbell was intervening on behalf of his son in the past per the e-mails that were revealed during the law suit by a terminated referee:



If you think Campbell was not consulted I have lovely bridge to sell you. Heck Murphy slipped up and revealed he had talked to Brian Burke about the Rome suspension - a rival GM with an axe to grind against the Canucks.

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So I guess Keith was upset at lost wages. Probably needed the break.

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Wow.. This is the perfect setup for another Vancouver Chicago first round clash

Vancouver stays at 2
The Hawks drop to 7

Best NHL ratings, most epic series ever
Whoever survives won't have nothing left
Except both teams will start out trying to win the game... only when the game get's out of hand is when it gets ugly... who wants to waste a crucial playoff game trying to teach a lesson?

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for future reference, Campbell made no decision regarding the Bruins

as he said, Murphy made any decision where a Bruins player was the recipient or the culprit
Yeah, I knew that. I'm guessing my mind is expunging a lot of that time. Was Shanahan announced as the new head of player safety around that time or am I going to have to get my brain checked out?

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