(sic) About a dozen workers told NBC New York that several areas of the more than 4-year-old arena are covered with what they believe is dangerous asbestos. Photos provided by their lawyer showed a white substance on the floor and walls of the coliseum’s boiler room.
According to that worker’s lawyer, the testing confirmed dangerous levels of potentially airborne asbestos in work areas like the coliseum’s boiler room and loading dock as well as stairwells and other places accessible to the public.
Uh....
I've been in the exhibition hall underneath many times, and other rooms "underneath" the building...
If it is places accessible which are to the public, then something has to be done.
If it is in some room which a person goes in once a year, then, while being a problem, it isn't a pressing issue nor is it a multi million dollar problem.
If it is an effing stairwell which the everyday person uses, then we are in for an interesting ride.
Well, as the County has been stressing a privately built new facility and have known the asbestos problem for years, I think that is a pipe dream. Nassau County would have to pay a LOT to demolish the current coliseum with asbestos and may ask Charles to foot some of the bill (on top of the new coliseum).
Weigh the options for Nassau, then. What's going to cost them the most:
1. Abatement and then lose the Isles with no upgrade: cost of abatement PLUS loss of all revenues within and outside the Coliseum directly and indirectly related to all events every year after they leave the area and the venue dries up (turns to the Brendan Byrne/IZOD scenario).
2. Abatement and then cover the cost or refurbishing the arena to modern specs to protect revenues in the future.
3. Abatement and domolishing the current building, building a new one.
Which one is cheapest to them in the long run? If 3 means a similar seat count, 2. If 3 means a sizeable gain in seating, 3 is the winner. 1 is suicide for the county.
Weigh the options for Nassau, then. What's going to cost them the most:
1. Abatement and then lose the Isles with no upgrade: cost of abatement PLUS loss of all revenues within and outside the Coliseum directly and indirectly related to all events every year after they leave the area and the venue dries up (turns to the Brendan Byrne/IZOD scenario).
2. Abatement and then cover the cost or refurbishing the arena to modern specs to protect revenues in the future.
3. Abatement and domolishing the current building, building a new one.
Which one is cheapest to them in the long run? If 3 means a similar seat count, 2. If 3 means a sizeable gain in seating, 3 is the winner. 1 is suicide for the county.
Which means it's most likely.
I guess you haven't read a memo from the Nassau County Executive office last month
Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano has offered Islanders owner Charles Wang an exclusive period to come up with a privately financed plan to redevelop the 77-acre Nassau Hub before the county seeks other options for the site.
"I look forward to receiving a privately financed plan for a new Coliseum from the New York Islanders ," Mangano said.
In the absence of such a plan, "we will have no choice but to go in a different direction," said Deputy County Executive Rob Walker.
A quartet of Nassau's largest developers announced last week that they would offer a joint proposal to redevelop the Hub, with or without the team.
Mangano has said he will release a new vision for the Hub after meeting in the next few weeks with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo . The latest moves toward a new Coliseum and a redevelopment plan for the area come after several failed efforts.
Unless wang provides a privately funded new, the asbestos filled Coliseum will be gone without being replaced.
Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano has offered Islanders owner Charles Wang an exclusive period to come up with a privately financed plan to redevelop the 77-acre Nassau Hub before the county seeks other options for the site.
"I look forward to receiving a privately financed plan for a new Coliseum from the New York Islanders ," Mangano said.
In the absence of such a plan, "we will have no choice but to go in a different direction," said Deputy County Executive Rob Walker.
A quartet of Nassau's largest developers announced last week that they would offer a joint proposal to redevelop the Hub, with or without the team.
Mangano has said he will release a new vision for the Hub after meeting in the next few weeks with Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo . The latest moves toward a new Coliseum and a redevelopment plan for the area come after several failed efforts.
Unless wang provides a privately funded new, the asbestos filled Coliseum will be gone without being replaced.
Yeah, but isn't that before all this asbestos talk?
That would be correct.
So Nassau now has major egg on their face. Lawsuits for mesothelioma, further gross negligence proven, do you think they'd up and remove the Coliseum and the team after being proven to have contributed heavily to the decline of the building?
Yeah, but isn't that before all this asbestos talk?
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Originally Posted by OlTimeHockey
That would be correct.
So Nassau now has major egg on their face. Lawsuits for mesothelioma, further gross negligence proven, do you think they'd up and remove the Coliseum and the team after being proven to have contributed heavily to the decline of the building?
County officials could not be reached for comment, but the asbestos issue was part of the debate last year over whether to tear down the Coliseum to build a new arena for the Islanders .
At that time, county officials confirmed asbestos was present as they were conducting a comprehensive environmental assessment of the area surrounding the building in the weeks before the Aug. 1 referendum on the new site. Nassau voters rejected the $400 million project.
Actually asbestos WAS known to the Nassau County officials last year. Then Mangano requested a replacement using PRIVATE funds.
County officials could not be reached for comment, but the asbestos issue was part of the debate last year over whether to tear down the Coliseum to build a new arena for the Islanders .
At that time, county officials confirmed asbestos was present as they were conducting a comprehensive environmental assessment of the area surrounding the building in the weeks before the Aug. 1 referendum on the new site. Nassau voters rejected the $400 million project.
Actually asbestos WAS known to the Nassau County officials last year. Then Mangano requested a replacement using PRIVATE funds.
The bigger issue here is at no point prior to the referendum was it disclosed to the voting public that asbestos was identified in the NVMC permitting the voters full disclosure that may impact their voting strategy.
That's where Wang is taking this - the county failed to disclose this with full knowledge prior to the referendum. Essentially, you buried it intentionally.
The bigger issue here is at no point prior to the referendum was it disclosed to the voting public that asbestos was identified in the NVMC permitting the voters full disclosure that may impact their voting strategy.
That's where Wang is taking this - the county failed to disclose this with full knowledge prior to the referendum. Essentially, you buried it intentionally.
If anyone thought there was no asbestos in a 1971 code building like the NVMC, they probably better not turn the TV on. Ford became President and the War ended.
If anyone thought there was no asbestos in a 1971 code building like the NVMC, they probably better not turn the TV on. Ford became President and the War ended.
But wait! There's more!
In the media, asbestos = scary, lawsuits, health/safety, etc. There's not a LOT popular going on with the term asbestos no matter the codes and variations. LI'ers lover to panic, so this fits in their wheelhouse.
It's a ploy by the lawyers and by Wang (secretly) to place an aura of negativity around the building.
In the media, asbestos = scary, lawsuits, health/safety, etc. There's not a LOT popular going on with the term asbestos no matter the codes and variations. LI'ers lover to panic, so this fits in their wheelhouse.
It's a ploy by the lawyers and by Wang (secretly) to place an aura of negativity around the building.
Yeah, but it is a serious issue nonetheless. Awful working environment, dangerous working environment and Nassau is at fault entirely with SMG a chainlink away.
So in a scale of Hurricaine Katrina to Y2K, it's closer to Y2K for fans but a serious issue for the ones who failed to maintain the building that puts their scale closer to Katrina.
The bigger issue here is at no point prior to the referendum was it disclosed to the voting public that asbestos was identified in the NVMC permitting the voters full disclosure that may impact their voting strategy.
That's where Wang is taking this - the county failed to disclose this with full knowledge prior to the referendum. Essentially, you buried it intentionally.
Well then Wang and Nassau County should have disclosed asbestos problems IF they felt the problem should have been known for the voting public. Neither side did at the time and are at each other's throats right now.
County officials could not be reached for comment, but the asbestos issue was part of the debate last year over whether to tear down the Coliseum to build a new arena for the Islanders .
At that time, county officials confirmed asbestos was present as they were conducting a comprehensive environmental assessment of the area surrounding the building in the weeks before the Aug. 1 referendum on the new site. Nassau voters rejected the $400 million project.
Actually asbestos WAS known to the Nassau County officials last year. Then Mangano requested a replacement using PRIVATE funds.
First I've read about it when it broke about the other day.
