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02-29-2012, 03:58 AM
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College FA signings - wishlist to David McNab ;)

Hi there,

the NCAA regular seasons will end the next weeks. Whom do you want to get signed out of the undrafted pool there?

Mark Zengerle
| UW | C
5'11", 181 lbs, shoots right!!!
high scroing playmaking center and linemate of Justin Schultz (we should know him quite well) . Dan Sallows describes him He is an explossive skater, with good hands, and exceptional playmaking skills to go with an above average, very accurate shot, good work ethic, and the ability to make his linemates better. Zengerle is a carbon copy of the Chicago Blackhawks Patrick Kane at times, with his speed and elusive moves.


He is the top player on my list. I hope Justin is a factor to lure him.


Brian Flynn | UoM| W
6'01", 185 lbs
sniper of Maine, solid over the last few years.

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Hi there,

the NCAA regular seasons will end the next weeks. Whom do you want to get signed out of the undrafted pool there?

Mark Zengerle
| UW | C
5'11", 181 lbs, shoots right!!!
high scroing playmaking center and linemate of Justin Schultz (we should know him quite well) . Dan Sallows describes him He is an explossive skater, with good hands, and exceptional playmaking skills to go with an above average, very accurate shot, good work ethic, and the ability to make his linemates better. Zengerle is a carbon copy of the Chicago Blackhawks Patrick Kane at times, with his speed and elusive moves.


He is the top player on my list. I hope Justin is a factor to lure him.


Brian Flynn | UoM| W
6'01", 185 lbs
sniper of Maine, solid over the last few years.
There, fixed the videos Hard not to like Zengerle from that video, a bit on the smallish side, but he clearly has a ton of skills.

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Zengerle clearly has skill. Is he a sophomore this year?

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Another Andy McDonald type sighting?

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Am I missing something? Why would a right-shooting center be a positive? All our high-end wingers are right wings, so wouldn't we prefer left-shooting centers to pass to them?

Also if you shift a right-shooting center to wing, he will probably go to the right side, which again is not our need.

I mean it is true our centers mostly shoot left, but is there anything wrong with that? I would value the effect on the wingers more. So like I said, there must be something I'm missing.

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Another Andy McDonald type sighting?
I think he has the same upside, yes! There are some voices who say no but I like him. He is a sophomore but I'd be surprised if he stays (is already 22). He trashed the BCHL before

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Am I missing something? Why would a right-shooting center be a positive? All our high-end wingers are right wings, so wouldn't we prefer left-shooting centers to pass to them?

Also if you shift a right-shooting center to wing, he will probably go to the right side, which again is not our need.

I mean it is true our centers mostly shoot left, but is there anything wrong with that? I would value the effect on the wingers more. So like I said, there must be something I'm missing.


So should we move Getzlaf because Perry shoots right? Or am I missing something?

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Zengerle looks like the better candidate from the video. But it's hard to tell when the Maine video was shot with a potato and with no zoom.

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Sorry, if I was a college free agent, the last team I would sign with is Anaheim. Syracuse is a mess and its going to be hard to win a top 6 position.

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Kinda OT but Brendan Shinnimin of the WHL is an FA.

117 points in 60 games and one less goal than Etem (who by the way stopped scoring all of a sudden, he's at 53 now)

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So should we move Getzlaf because Perry shoots right? Or am I missing something?
My main question was does handedness actually matter. And I don't actually know, which is why I asked if I was missing something. It wasn't to be snarky or anything.

So Getzlaf obviously has no problem passing to Perry. Is it because he's on the cycle and they don't play strictly positionally? Is it actually better to pass to the backhand? Or maybe Getzlaf is just super talented and can pass both ways equally well, but most other centers are not that way?

But I have heard that it's better to have the scorer on the forehand of the center. It was used as an explanation for why RWs are so much higher scoring than LWs. So unless someone can provide a good explanation I'm going to go with that assumption for now.

edit: but despite all that I actually don't believe that left/right shot should factor in at all. To me position has an effect, such as left vs right defenseman or left vs right winger. But for centers I don't see how it really matters either way.


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My main question was does handedness actually matter. And I don't actually know, which is why I asked if I was missing something. It wasn't to be snarky or anything.

So Getzlaf obviously has no problem passing to Perry. Is it because he's on the cycle and they don't play strictly positionally? Is it actually better to pass to the backhand? Or maybe Getzlaf is just super talented and can pass both ways equally well, but most other centers are not that way?

But I have heard that it's better to have the scorer on the forehand of the center. It was used as an explanation for why RWs are so much higher scoring than LWs. So unless someone can provide a good explanation I'm going to go with that assumption for now.

edit: but despite all that I actually don't believe that left/right shot should factor in at all. To me position has an effect, such as left vs right defenseman or left vs right winger. But for centers I don't see how it really matters either way.
I think you make a good point.

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Kinda OT but Brendan Shinnimin of the WHL is an FA.

117 points in 60 games and one less goal than Etem (who by the way stopped scoring all of a sudden, he's at 53 now)
Normally I would just say overager, pass. But seeing what Akeson has done in the AHL this year, makes me think more than a few teams will offer him.

As far as Zengerle, he's a nice player, but Ive never thought NHLer when watching him. He's definitely not ready to make the jump and would definitely be at least another 2 years away whether it be NCAA-AHL or AHL-AHL.

Both guys would definitely help Syracuse, but not sure you can sell guys on that.

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My main question was does handedness actually matter. And I don't actually know, which is why I asked if I was missing something. It wasn't to be snarky or anything.

So Getzlaf obviously has no problem passing to Perry. Is it because he's on the cycle and they don't play strictly positionally? Is it actually better to pass to the backhand? Or maybe Getzlaf is just super talented and can pass both ways equally well, but most other centers are not that way?

But I have heard that it's better to have the scorer on the forehand of the center. It was used as an explanation for why RWs are so much higher scoring than LWs. So unless someone can provide a good explanation I'm going to go with that assumption for now.

edit: but despite all that I actually don't believe that left/right shot should factor in at all. To me position has an effect, such as left vs right defenseman or left vs right winger. But for centers I don't see how it really matters either way.

Haha you never know, you are one snarky fellow.

And it is a very interesting point, something I never really thought about. For me I feel its all on a case by case basis. Someone like Ryan prefers the left because he has the puck on his forehand in the middle, while Selanne is the opposite. For centers who knows really, but I can see where you are coming from. For an organization weak at center though we should be considering regardless IMO.

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Ryan tends to have more of a snipers mentality from his off wing. Look at his junior numbers, he was far more of a playmaker playing on his natural side. It does affect players a little but at the end of the day it's not going to stop an elite talent from producing. Jagr is a good example, he said he prefers playing with a RHS centre, yet he's put up massive numbers no matter who he's playing with (see his time in NYR with Nylander). Good players will always adapt.

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My Pick is MATT WHITE from University of Nebraska-Omaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkg9qz8n5ig

goal vs Jack Camplbell


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AND FROM WHITTIER CALIFORNIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Running through that article, i would like to take a look at Welsh and DeKeyser

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to those wondering if handedness matters...

Selanne/ Kariya

Gretzky/ Kurri

Lemieux/ Jagr


I think some of the best duos have been different shots.

then again, there's a lot of great duos who are both the same shot.


all that being said, our team desperately needs some talented left shot forwards. make it happen Bob.

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NCAA Free Agent talk

Sorry mods tried searching but couldn't find anything relevant. Well duck fans we do have some very good talent in the college tourney this year.

I would love to sign Jeremy Welsh - 6'3 210 lbs Big physical power foward 37 gp 26 goals 15 assists. He has shown up at multiple NHL camps and is likely signing somewhere this offseason. If we lose Schultz we gotta pull someone from this pool.

Anyone else have their eye on anyone this season NCAA wise?

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Looks to me like you just described a poor man's Patrick Maroon.

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Except he actually plays hockey? Lol

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Except he actually plays hockey? Lol
What's that supposed to mean? Maroon is the leading scorer on an AHL team. That is a much bigger deal than leading an ECAC team in scoring.

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What's that supposed to mean? Maroon is the leading scorer on an AHL team. That is a much bigger deal than leading an ECAC team in scoring.
Look we're getting off topic here. He's a solid player and could add depth to our prospects. If we could snag this kid we will be good physically amongst our prospects.

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Look we're getting off topic here. He's a solid player and could add depth to our prospects. If we could snag this kid we will be solid for physically amongst our prospects.
That isn't a need at this point. We have plenty of guys for that in our system. We need an enforcer/pest type and Welsh doesn't appear to be that.

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That isn't a need at this point. We have plenty of guys for that in our system. We need an enforcer/pest type and Welsh doesn't appear to be that.
Have you seen him play?? He's a solid physical player who scores goals. Even if he is AHL destined he can be a valuable piece for our affiliates. Do u have anyone else in mind? Any other NCAA players ude like to sign?

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