I don't really follow College hockey like I should (Wife already gets on my for watching the Capitals vs Wild and games like that ) but how can two teams that I basically never heard of? Ferris State and Union would not be the first 50 colleges I would name :-)
Speaking of that, I have watched the BC games, and am I wrong in saying Tommy Cross really does nothing for me? I mean he is a senior and all, he just doesn't really do much, and can't see him contributing to the Bruins for a long time, if at all.
Speaking of that, I have watched the BC games, and am I wrong in saying Tommy Cross really does nothing for me? I mean he is a senior and all, he just doesn't really do much, and can't see him contributing to the Bruins for a long time, if at all.
Nope doesn't do anything for me either. I said in the prospect thread he looks like a middle pairing dman at best.
Speaking of that, I have watched the BC games, and am I wrong in saying Tommy Cross really does nothing for me? I mean he is a senior and all, he just doesn't really do much, and can't see him contributing to the Bruins for a long time, if at all.
Yup, I agree. I see him play in town a few times a year. Color me not that impressed. Hardly seems worth trading the picks to move up to get him, in my opinion.
I don't really follow College hockey like I should (Wife already gets on my for watching the Capitals vs Wild and games like that ) but how can two teams that I basically never heard of? Ferris State and Union would not be the first 50 colleges I would name :-)
My sister went to Union. It's in Schenectady, NY. I guess this is the first year they've ever won a tournament game. Ferris St tho....yea I have no idea. Bueller??
Nope doesn't do anything for me either. I said in the prospect thread he looks like a middle pairing dman at best.
I`m ok with that, for guy who`s undergone the surgeries/injuries/rehabs he has at his age, sounds ok to me, bottom line is that those middle pairing guys are equally important to a team as a 1st pairing when it comes to the long grind of the playoffs
Speaking of that, I have watched the BC games, and am I wrong in saying Tommy Cross really does nothing for me? I mean he is a senior and all, he just doesn't really do much, and can't see him contributing to the Bruins for a long time, if at all.
But, but, but he values education! and had an amazing prospects camp, along with every other Bruins prospect.
I`m ok with that, for guy who`s undergone the surgeries/injuries/rehabs he has at his age, sounds ok to me, bottom line is that those middle pairing guys are equally important to a team as a 1st pairing when it comes to the long grind of the playoffs
This.
I understand the criticisms of those who are professionals at scouting players and I have seen a few things that need major improvement when I have watched him.
So he may or nay not pan out. Anytime you draft a player you take a risk.
When the B's drafted him they didn't forsee all the knee issues he's endured.
Sure he was hurt when they drafted him but to say they should have known better is crap and an excuse to knock him down further.
To be honest, we don't know what he's going to look like as a pro so to judge him, based solely on his college career, is very close minded.
Let's put it this way, if Tommy Cross turns pro at least he will give 110% night in and night out and won't complain like so many others do.
Also, to criticize his choice in sticking with his education is pathetic.
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Bruins fans who follow prospects have been fed a steady diet of Tommy Cross because he's been B's property for so long. Add that he plays for a local school, and fans have more exposure to him. High exposure usually equals high expectations and more buzz, even if they aren't realistic.
If the buzz doesn't match the talent, and he does turn out to be a mid to low pairing DMan, there's going to be a lot of fans crying "bust" even if that isn't fair, if he's performing as expected. Such is life, I suppose.
I understand the criticisms of those who are professionals at scouting players and I have seen a few things that need major improvement when I have watched him.
So he may or nay not pan out. Anytime you draft a player you take a risk.
When the B's drafted him they didn't forsee all the knee issues he's endured.
Sure he was hurt when they drafted him but to say they should have known better is crap and an excuse to knock him down further.
To be honest, we don't know what he's going to look like as a pro so to judge him, based solely on his college career, is very close minded.
Let's put it this way, if Tommy Cross turns pro at least he will give 110% night in and night out and won't complain like so many others do.
Also, to criticize his choice in sticking with his education is pathetic.
So we as fans are supposed to be concerned about a players desire to get an education?
You are a Patriots fan, right? I can't find the link, but I have read accounts of Belichick passing on players because they decided to go to study hall instead of practice. AKA their focus was on school, not 100% football.
I tend to agree with the philosophy. Truth is the Bruins traded up and wasted a 2nd round pick on this guy. Plus, I am quite tired of this team taking chances on NCAA dmen. Has it ever worked out?
So we as fans are supposed to be concerned about a players desire to get an education?
You are a Patriots fan, right? I can't find the link, but I have read accounts of Belichick passing on players because they decided to go to study hall instead of practice. AKA their focus was on school, not 100% football.
I tend to agree with the philosophy. Truth is the Bruins traded up and wasted a 2nd round pick on this guy. Plus, I am quite tired of this team taking chances on NCAA dmen. Has it ever worked out?
You shouldn't hold it against him or anyone else for that matter.
You can be equally as focused on both
Post a link stating this claim or it's garbage. Football is also an entirely different animal and is irrelevant.
You have a problem with any player who isn't a bonafied superstar.
You shouldn't hold it against him or anyone else for that matter.
You can be equally as focused on both
Post a link stating this claim or it's garbage. Football is also an entirely different animal and is irrelevant.
You have a problem with any player who isn't a bonafied superstar.
Sorry Aly, I have to agree with Morris here. While I personally don't begrudge him for wanting to finish his education, I can understand why others might be frustrated.
I don't know Tommy Cross. We aren't friends. We aren't family. He was drafted by my favorite hockey team, and I care about what he can do to help the Bruins win championships, not if he gets his degree.
I have no connection to these guys off the ice, so my #1 concern is what they do on it.
Sorry Aly, I have to agree with Morris here. While I personally don't begrudge him for wanting to finish his education, I can understand why others might be frustrated.
I don't know Tommy Cross. We aren't friends. We aren't family. He was drafted by my favorite hockey team, and I care about what he can do to help the Bruins win championships, not if he gets his degree.
I have no connection to these guys off the ice, so my #1 concern is what they do on it.
I said I didn't begrudge him for wanting to finish his education. I understand the frustration from people who do.
It's fine to disagree, but I'm curious...why are you more concerned with him having the opportunity to finish his degree than you are with what help he can offer to the Bruins?
I said I didn't begrudge him for wanting to finish his education. I understand the frustration from people who do.
It's fine to disagree, but I'm curious...why are you more concerned with him having the opportunity to finish his degree than you are with what help he can offer to the Bruins?
My whole thing with the degree is people shouldn't hold it against him that he went back and say that he isn't committed to hockey and the Bruins and because of this, will never be successful.
If you read back I have said all along that I can't wait for him to come to Providence because he will have an immediate impact on that team.
He brings PP and PK skills, a heavy, low shot, physicality, leadership and a bit of snarl to that team. He also familiar with the area and will greatly help in the adjustment process for the new guys.
He has major flaws in his game that he needs to fix. He needs to bulk up a little more without compromising his reconstructed knees. He needs to work on pinching up into plays and his skating (he only has one speed and gets caught flat footed).
So we as fans are supposed to be concerned about a players desire to get an education?
You are a Patriots fan, right? I can't find the link, but I have read accounts of Belichick passing on players because they decided to go to study hall instead of practice. AKA their focus was on school, not 100% football.
I tend to agree with the philosophy. Truth is the Bruins traded up and wasted a 2nd round pick on this guy. Plus, I am quite tired of this team taking chances on NCAA dmen. Has it ever worked out?
I'd actually argue that 2 of the 5 or so best players in that draft class turned out to be defensemen who played in the NCAA (Shattenkirk, McDonagh), and would have much rather had one of them than the CHL forward we wound up with.
That being said, the Bruins overall draft that year (and it looks like the year after) was brutal. I don't think it was a matter of what leagues they were taking guys from as much as it was failed evaluations.
Through the years I've read/seen a lot of stories about athletes who blew off their education to go pro but who were then left with nothing when it didn't work out. Given the issues Cross has had with his knees I think he made the smart move by staying in school.
And as for his seeming lack of dedication to his sport by choosing college over the pros- bullbleep. Why should an athlete sacrifice everything for a sport that will throw him to the wolves the minute he can't produce anymore? This is true of all professional sports btw.
I agree think Cross getting his degree is a cool thing and speaks volumes of his character....My only problem with him is he just don't seem that good... :-)
Through the years I've read/seen a lot of stories about athletes who blew off their education to go pro but who were then left with nothing when it didn't work out. Given the issues Cross has had with his knees I think he made the smart move by staying in school.
And as for his seeming lack of dedication to his sport by choosing college over the pros- bullbleep. Why should an athlete sacrifice everything for a sport that will throw him to the wolves the minute he can't produce anymore? This is true of all professional sports btw.
The problem is if a hockey player wants to be a doctor more then a hockey player, well, generally those kinda guys don't work out. I certainly respect his decision however...
