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Eric Staal's impressive season

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03-25-2012, 02:34 PM
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Eric Staal's impressive season

EDIT: This thread isn't intended to bash Claude Giroux, but to highlight Staal's greatness. I picked Giroux because he was leading the NHL in assists at the time I started writing the post.

Eric Staal has 45 assists in 76 games.

His assists are on goals by:

Tlusty (6)
Faulk (5)
Brent (5)
Skinner (5)
Harrison (4)
LaRose (3)
Stewart (3)
Jokinen (2)
Dwyer (2)
Samson (2)
Allen (1)
Poni (1)
Dalpe (1)
Sutter (1)
McBain (1)
Spacek (1)
Joslin (1)
Ruutu (1)

To calculate the average goals scored by each individual player, we'd multiply each goal scorer's season total by the number of time Staal assisted on a goal by them (for example, Tlusty would count six different times as a 17 goal scorer, while Ruutu would count once as a 17 goal scorer, etc), then divide that number by Staal's assist total. We wind up with an average of 11.2 goals.

Now, let's compare this to HF sensation and NHL assist leader Claude Giroux (note: Henrik Sedin passed Claude Giroux in assists while I was typing this post):

Hartnell (21)
Jagr (10)
Simmonds (10)
Read (4)
Timonen (4)
Van Riemsdyk (3)
Meszaros (1)
Gustafsson (1)
Voracek (1)
Couturier (1)
Schenn (1)

If we apply the same formula to Giroux's assists, we wind up with an average of 22.7 goals scored by those players.

11.2 average goals by Staal's teammates divided by 22.7 average goals by Giroux's teammates = .49

Staal has scored 76% as many assists as Giroux while playing with 49% of the talent.

Adjusting Giroux's assist total to Staal's situation, Giroux would have 29 assists if he was on the Hurricanes, while Staal would have 91 assists if he were on the Flyers.

Calculating the difference in the playmaking quality of their linemates would be too exhausting of a process, but let's assume that the playmaking talent disparity between their teammates is equal to the goalscoring disparity.

We wind up with the following results:

ADJUSTED POINT TOTALS


Giroux - 13 goals, 29 assists, 42 points
Staal - 46 goals, 91 assists, 137 points


League scoring is currently at 5.44 goals per game. During Wayne Gretzky's 215 point season, league scoring was at 7.94 goals per game. If we were to adjust Staal's Giroux-adjusted point totals to that season, we'd wind up with Staal having 200 points.

So, Staal is on pace to have one of the top five adjusted Claude Giroux-adjusted statistical seasons in history.


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wtf is this and how is it relevant?

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Staal is having a good season after a rocky start, not sure if this thread is being used to build up Staal or tear down Giroux though.

I imagine most of H. Sedin's assists(who you mentioned earlier in the thread) come from a select few players, doesn't make him any less of a playmaker though.

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wtf is this and how is it relevant?

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I laughed.

Nice work

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wtf is this and how is it relevant?
I have always thought Claude Giroux was overrated, this thread just proves it.

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wtf is this and how is it relevant?
It's BCC logic.

Staal plays with linemates that can't be considered goal-scorers, therefore the assists on the goals that they DO score are weighted more heavily in Staal's favor.

Giroux plays with linemates that are considered goal-scorers, therefore the assists on the goals that Giroux's linemates score are weighted less.

At least, that's what I got out of it.

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all i know is staal looked really ****** at the beginning of the year so the fact that he even has this many points is p impressive

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Staal's current linemates would also have more goals if Staal just flat out played better from the beginning of the year.
This

Although the op got me to

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Giroux's linemates score more than Staal's because Giroux makes them better.

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All I know is that Claude Giroux is better than Eric Staal.

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So because Staal and the Hurricanes sucked and Staal ended up playing all throughout the lineup, he is a better playmaker than Giroux?

lol what a stupid thread.

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There are none hockey players better than Eric Staal in the new NHL environment. He is the alpha and omega of great hockey performance.

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Um, what?

It seems you are assuming that an assist is entirely a byproduct of a goal being scored, or something? The methodology makes little sense

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This is the greatest analysis I've ever seen.

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Giroux's linemates score more than Staal's because Giroux makes them better.
haha and Staal doesn't make his better? Giroux is a great player but if anyone thinks his linemates aren't vastly superior to Staal's then you're crazy

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Yo Claude Giroux imma let you finish but Eric Staal had one of the best Claude Giroux-adjusted seasons of all time

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Giroux's linemates score more than Staal's because Giroux makes them better.
Hahahahahaha! Oh, man.

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Eric Staal is one of the best players in the league.




































If you only count the second half.

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Haha

Awesome thread dude.

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Obviously the main board doesn't know BCC.

I will have to admit it's hilarious people think he's serious, especially the defensive Flyers fans.

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Okay.

Now if you take Nino Niederreiter's 1 point in 50ish games, and multiply it by 64 because of the team normalization turd factor, he's actually got 64 points. What a remarkable season!

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