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03-26-2012, 10:49 AM
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The most he can sign for is a max ELC, which is still pretty cheap.
The bonus structure can put him close to 4million as a cap hit.

RNH is 3.775

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Just wondering...is there even room for him on the New York blue? Seems like they already have a deep young blueline, with good young players like Erixon on the outside still.
Doesn't seem like a great fit IMO.

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Honestly, if I'm him, I'm looking for the best possible situation for success. That means a team that:

a) Has a hole on Defense
b) is either a team on the rise or a team that is a perennial playoff team
c) Has cap flexibility to allow for a potential payday
d) Has quality Defensive vets that would provide a guiding hand
e) Good development coaching (strong development track record)
f) a chance to start in the NHL right away

The teams that can check all or the majority of these criteria should be the frontrunners.
This screams Toronto. I bet on Toronto.

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He has to get a chance to prove himself. He's so young. I don't buy he'll look to sign with a contender.
A contender with holes on defense. Why not?

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The bonus structure can put him close to 4million as a cap hit.

RNH is 3.775
Schultz's max caphit will be around $1M

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This screams Toronto. I bet on Toronto.
Of course, the dream of every NHL player or potential NHL player is to sign with Toronto. We can never forget this

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The bonus structure can put him close to 4million as a cap hit.

RNH is 3.775
I'm just going by the following:
"Option 1 (Sign with Anaheim immediately after the Wisconsin season)

*2011-12: Aprox. $130,000 + $87,500 signing bonus

*2012-13: $875,000, with 10% up front signing bonus

*Restricted Free Agent: Summer of 2013

Option 2 (Choose your destination this summer)

*2012-13: $925,000, with 10% up front signing bonus

*2013-14: $925,000, with 10% up front signing bonus

*Restricted Free Agent: Summer of 2014"

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He has to get a chance to prove himself. He's so young. I don't buy he'll look to sign with a contender.
Guy's turning 22.

Same age as Doughty, Myers, Petro, Karlsson, Gardiner, Schenn, MDZ etc who are all everyday players and have been for years in some cases.

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Schultz's max caphit will be around $1M
Why would he sign a deal with no incentives?

The best comparable to this situation is Blake Wheeler and under a much smaller cap his contract called for a 2.825 million dollar cap hit based on the incentives.

Fabian Brunnstrum was 2.225 million.

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03-26-2012, 10:58 AM
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I'm just going by the following:
"Option 1 (Sign with Anaheim immediately after the Wisconsin season)

*2011-12: Aprox. $130,000 + $87,500 signing bonus

*2012-13: $875,000, with 10% up front signing bonus

*Restricted Free Agent: Summer of 2013

Option 2 (Choose your destination this summer)

*2012-13: $925,000, with 10% up front signing bonus

*2013-14: $925,000, with 10% up front signing bonus

*Restricted Free Agent: Summer of 2014"
Those are his salaries, he'll get bonuses on top of those.

He's in a position to negotiate his performance related bonuses down to reasonable levels that he will have a legit chance to achieve so if teams want to use the "bonus cushion" (if one exists in the next CBA) with him, they will do so at their own peril (see Chicago Blackhawks and Toews/Kane).

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I'm sure most teams can say this, but I would love Schultz in Philly as a Matt Carle replacement. Playoff team 16 of last 17 years. Defensive holes. Willingness to spend to compete. Need a defensive prospect or 2 to match what they have up front. Learn from Kimmo Timmonen and possibly Chris Pronger.... seems a good fit.

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Why would he sign a deal with no incentives?

The best comparable to this situation is Blake Wheeler and under a much smaller cap his contract called for a 2.825 million dollar cap hit based on the incentives.

Fabian Brunnstrum was 2.225 million.
He's a defenseman who was picked in the 2nd round, not a big reach to assume he wont hit any of his 'B' level bonuses. So its basically just games played and anything he negotiates with the team.

Won't be anywhere close to a $4m caphit unless he absolutely sets the league on fire.

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He's a defenseman who was picked in the 2nd round, not a big reach to assume he wont hit any of his 'B' level bonuses. So its basically just games played and anything he negotiates with the team.

Won't be anywhere close to a $4m caphit unless he absolutely sets the league on fire.
There are different B level bonuses for defencemen, he's not going to need to hit 60 pts like a forward would.

As well his draft status is irrelevant, the guy has really developped well since being a second round pick, if that draft was re-done today he'd be picked ahead of a number of guys taken before him.

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Of course, the dream of every NHL player or potential NHL player is to sign with Toronto. We can never forget this
Are you upset because Montreal has nothing interesting for Schultz? At least TO has his best friend.

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Are you upset because Montreal has nothing interesting for Schultz? At least TO has his best friend.
I'm not upset... it was just a comment on how the Leafs are always the "frontrunner" for every high profile FA, in the minds of leaf fans anyway.

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Who is this Schultz?
The best defenseman in U.S. college right now, potentially the second best UFA defenseman this year after Suter.

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As a leaf fan, hopefully he signs in T.O, but realisticly there are many very good options out there for him. Almost every team would like to sign him, but where does he end up?
Rangers or Flyers

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I'm not upset... it was just a comment on how the Leafs are always the "frontrunner" for every high profile FA, in the minds of leaf fans anyway.
We have no hope in signing parise/suter/weber etc, we do however have Jake Gardiner, who is Schultz's d partner in Wisonsin and is his best buddy. That will play a role.

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I'm not upset... it was just a comment on how the Leafs are always the "frontrunner" for every high profile FA, in the minds of leaf fans anyway.
A college kid isn't a high profile FA. Can I start generalizing the entire Habs fanbase over your stupid comments?

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A college kid isn't a high profile FA. Can I start generalizing the entire Habs fanbase over your stupid comments?
A defenceman who is maybe the best player in College this season... and will be coveted by all 30 NHL teams is absolutely a high profile UFA

If he becomes a UFA, he'll be in the league of a Blake Wheeler or Fabian Brunnstrom in terms of people watching where he will go.

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Honestly, if I'm him, I'm looking for the best possible situation for success. That means a team that:

a) Has a hole on Defense
b) is either a team on the rise or a team that is a perennial playoff team
c) Has cap flexibility to allow for a potential payday
d) Has quality Defensive vets that would provide a guiding hand
e) Good development coaching (strong development track record)
f) a chance to start in the NHL right away

The teams that can check all or the majority of these criteria should be the frontrunners.
Minnesota has A, C and F on lock; as for the others, it depends on how loosely you want to interperet "team on the rise" and "defensive vets".

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The best defenseman in U.S. college right now, potentially the second best UFA defenseman this year after Suter.
Wideman? Lidstrom? Stuart?

Turning into the most overhyped guy on HF.

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We have no hope in signing parise/suter/weber etc, we do however have Jake Gardiner, who is Schultz's d partner in Wisonsin and is his best buddy. That will play a role.
Hoping you forgot the

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Huge Potential and who doesn't want a free asset?

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Hoping you forgot the
no he didn't. he's right. sounds like you just heard about Schultz for the first time today.

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