Give him to Calgary. We'll take as many elite kids as we can get...especially a nice young power forward. Hell, do it so Baertschi can play with his role model.
On a more serious note, I'd say the Islanders need to put him in a scenario of success, no matter what that success is. Nino is a player who doesn't make those around him better..just finishes plays well. Throwing him on a line of "has been" fringe NHLers who can't feed him offensively is just asking for a situation like this to happen.
I know before on the Islanders forum I stated that if he's going to be at the NHL level because of this illness called "Wang-itis", that he would have been best served development on the 3rd line. 4th line helps nobody.
One major problem that was going to arise at some point (whenever he would get to the NHL) was physicality. Nino was less physical in the WHL than he is now. It sounds like (I rarely see Islander games...I'm mostly going by reports) he's at least developed a bit of a decent checking ability in the NHL now. Luckily, it means the season wasn't a total waste...just a lot of one because you also shred confidence telling a kid to eat popcorn frequently and have little on-ice success.
If I were Snow (and thank god I'm not), I'd have the coaches tell him to work on his skating all summer. Show up slow or unconditioned and it's off to Bridgeport at the start of training camp. Show up faster and you'll get a shot at top 9 (and I mean a shot...not any of this promised a job business I heard this season). That leaves the ball in his court to see if he's committed and leaves the hope of an NHL job there.
Press says they'll push to sign 23 yr old Petrov,now that his khl contract has ended.I doubt he comes over to play in the AHL.I think he opens the season with the isles and will have an out clause in his contract: if demoted,he can go back to thr KHL.
I think the older Petrov will have Nino's NHL roster spot,unless Nino has a very strong camp.
Isles have Kabanov and Nelson headed to Bridgeport.I think Nino will be joining them.Thompson,the Sound Tigers head coach,has a growing rep for how well he's doing with the Bridgeport youngsters.
the Kings Dustin Brown also had one whopping goal in his rookie season.
Question from somebody who never watches the Islanders: Why was he in the NHL at all this season?
Because he actually earned a roster spot in training camp after getting to play alongside JT and Moulson, and after his injury and missed time he came back, basically lost that first line spot and was relegated to 4th line duty. They were never going to send him back to juniors since they needed his cap hit. He was never able to prove he belonged in the top 6, which was barely possible since he played with Pandolfo and Reasoner all year, but for someone with as much potential as Nino to go pointless in all but 1 game is inexplicable.
, but for someone with as much potential as Nino to go pointless in all but 1 game is inexplicable.
actually, it is not. you've said it yourself. niederreiter has potential. he does not, however, have game NOW. that is why he scored 1 point...because he is nowhere close to being ready to play in the nhl.
i would like to take this moment to thank wang and snow for burning a year of niederreiter's service to the franchise for this debacle of a season...thanks guys!!!
Press says they'll push to sign 23 yr old Petrov,now that his khl contract has ended.I doubt he comes over to play in the AHL.I think he opens the season with the isles and will have an out clause in his contract: if demoted,he can go back to thr KHL.
I think the older Petrov will have Nino's NHL roster spot,unless Nino has a very strong camp.
Isles have Kabanov and Nelson headed to Bridgeport.I think Nino will be joining them.Thompson,the Sound Tigers head coach,has a growing rep for how well he's doing with the Bridgeport youngsters.
the Kings Dustin Brown also had one whopping goal in his rookie season.
Link?
I believe you, I just want to read the article.
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Question from somebody who never watches the Islanders: Why was he in the NHL at all this season?
Well, guess I'll give you the correct answer. The correct answer is (and mentioned above) that he earned a spot on the roster during preseason. Then he got injured. After 9 games you have to make the reasonable assumption that Nino was still trying to get back to form after his injury and would play like he did in preseason. He didn't and we missed the window. It's that simple. Has nothing to do with money and everything to do with what his output was in preseason. He struggled for sure and now that he is old enough for Bridgeport he can take what he learned he has to do by playing in the NHL this season and fine tune that in Bridgeport. He'll be with us again soon and producing.
Well, guess I'll give you the correct answer. The correct answer is (and mentioned above) that he earned a spot on the roster during preseason. Then he got injured. After 9 games you have to make the reasonable assumption that Nino was still trying to get back to form after his injury and would play like he did in preseason. He didn't and we missed the window. It's that simple. Has nothing to do with money and everything to do with what his output was in preseason. He struggled for sure and now that he is old enough for Bridgeport he can take what he learned he has to do by playing in the NHL this season and fine tune that in Bridgeport. He'll be with us again soon and producing.
Or the cap floor. It depends on how much effort you make in defending the team.
He wasn't anything special in the preseason, but......given the two choices:
1. power forewards take longer to develop, so sending him to juniors would be prudent.
2. his cap hit means we won't have to spend money!
you decide. He could have been something in time, but showed so little, and his horrible play DURING the nine games where he had awful puck control, positioning and passing should have been a clarion call to send him down TO PROTECT HIM.
But hey, Snow and Wang have the success of every player on their mind, not the cap evasive moves we're now famous for.
because he did his 9 game stint during the 2010-11 season. nine games does not burn a year off his contract.
for the 2011-12 season, he wasnt old enough to play in the A.H.L. and was not eligable to go back to portland. portland had two foriegn born ( non north american ) players on their roster, and you cant have three.
as far as "cap circumvention" goes.....thats just laughable.
the league approved of his contract and roster status. the league NEVER said anything about ninos contract being used to circumvent the salary structure. meaning it wasnt salary cap circumvention.
the plain and simple fact is, there was nowhere else to put the kid......
because he did his 9 game stint during the 2010-11 season. nine games does not burn a year off his contract.
for the 2011-12 season, he wasnt old enough to play in the A.H.L. and was not eligable to go back to portland. portland had two foriegn born ( non north american ) players on their roster, and you cant have three.
as far as "cap circumvention" goes.....thats just laughable.
the league approved of his contract and roster status. the league NEVER said anything about ninos contract being used to circumvent the salary structure. meaning it wasnt salary cap circumvention.
the plain and simple fact is, there was nowhere else to put the kid......
The only reason that Portland had 2 foreign born players and no room for Nino was because the Islanders told Portland that Nino would not be back there.
Snow set it up, it wasn't just circumstance.
A good organization - not just professional sports teams - protect their assets and manage junior execs and employees to develop them into productive, attractive assets.
The Islanders are not a good organization and for the most part are run by nitwits. Yes, they've been "fortunate" to be bad enought to draft/acquired pretty good younger talent but I don't trust them to develop them properly (ie Bailey, NN...) or put them into a position to succeed.
Classic example of digging ditches and filling them....
Not too difficult to figure out that a couple of established vets (who are not over the hill) are needed for this younger group.
Nino is terrible. He looked like a deer in the headlights this season after getting rocked in Dallas. Trade him or send him to Bridgeport for the next 2 seasons minimum. That anyone thought he was ready this year is laughable.
The only reason that Portland had 2 foreign born players and no room for Nino was because the Islanders told Portland that Nino would not be back there. Snow set it up, it wasn't just circumstance.
Nino is terrible. He looked like a deer in the headlights this season after getting rocked in Dallas. Trade him or send him to Bridgeport for the next 2 seasons minimum. That anyone thought he was ready this year is laughable.
not disagreeing on his play this year, but trade him? you're silly...
BP for two years minimum? what about letting his play dictate where he goes? seems more logical...
The islanders were above the cap floor with or without nino all year.
I love how people keep forgeting that and how Travis Green was saying that Nino did not need/expect to be back in portland so the team was going to move on. Nino might have been ready for the NHL, however he came into camp out of shape, Tore a groin, took a long time to come back then got rocked in that Dallas game. When he came back from that he had an up hill battle with no help from his line-mates or his coach.
i HOPE that the organization kept him with the big team because they felt that he could learn more there, than being in the WHL.
it din't turn out very well, stats wise for him. BUT, there is the belief that players learn 10 times more by just practising at a higher level, as opposed to playing at a lower level...
i don't see him as a bust, or as an elite NHL player. i see him as a very young player, that has potential, and had a rough year.
