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03-27-2012, 10:14 AM
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Lose tonight and we are officially done for the 7th year in a row.

But no doubt there will be the usual delusional leemings down at the ACC tonight who will cheer and clap like the trained seals at Marineland.

While the real astute Leaf fans at the ACC who are fed up with the garbage product year after year will boo Brain Burke's epic colapse losers right off the ice because they damn well deserve it.
actually it will hopefully give some season ticket holders away to some more loud fans haha

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03-27-2012, 10:17 AM
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Definitely watching this one tonight. It's going to be interesting.

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Lose tonight and we are officially done for the 7th year in a row.

But no doubt there will be the usual delusional leemings down at the ACC tonight who will cheer and clap like the trained seals at Marineland.

While the real astute Leaf fans at the ACC who are fed up with the garbage product year after year will boo Brain Burke's epic colapse losers right off the ice because they damn well deserve it.
You know what... I've been a Leaf fan for all my life. Started paying close attention back around 1989, and have followed them up to now.

They had a good run in the early 90s, and yeah the past 7 years has been crap. But you know what? We got boned by the same thinking the first 4 years of this current playoff drought.

"We're just one or two pieces away from a good cup run". nonsense. We were like the blue jays. We had a crap pipeline of prospects, and a bunch of pretenders and past-their-primers on the main roster. Lots of risk and no reward.

Vesa Toskala as a #1 starter? Huge risk no reward. The thing is, Brian Burke didn't have much to work with when he took over:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2..._season#Roster

Seriously. Go read that roster. it is absolute garbage with a few bright spots. Schenn, Grabovski, and I remember being hopeful that Justin Pogge, hot off his world junior performane, would be the next Cujo. That didn't turn out.

Now, take a look at the, admittedly outdated, list of prospects scroll across the top of the screen. Take a look at our current roster:

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

Right off the bat we have a legitimate scorer in Phil Kessel. Knock him all you want, but he adds speed and scoring. We have a decent d-corps. I wouldn't say amazing, we still have some stiffs, but something that we can build on, especially with Jake Gardiner. We still have a lot of work to do, but we are in WAY better shape than that horrible 2008 roster.

We have a lot of driftwood, though. And that's going to be a sign of the times. Teams are locking up their stars to longer term contracts, and they're not letting them get to be UFAs. So we have to be patient and be smart with drafting. The old approach of "we're a couple of pieces short of a good playoff run" is just that: old. Be patient, and understand that the players we have that are not your favourites are there because we need players there.

I don't like Komisarek, but you know what? He's a big body, and he fills a position until a) one of our prospects is ready or b) someone better comes along via trade/free agency.

I would much prefer small, incremental progress than the same result every year like we had in the early 2000's: finishing 6th-8th and lasting a round or 2 of playoffs. Making a bunch of moves in the offseason overpaying veterans who may or may not be able to perform still. It gets old.

Give Burkie some time to build up the team. I'm sure he'd be the first to admit things haven't gone the way he wanted as well.

In short, be patient. We're better off now than we were 7 years ago, regardless of the result. We sucked back then and we had no future. We suck now, but at least we have some potential prospects.

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03-27-2012, 10:31 AM
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Welp. I'm going to the game tonight. A win would be good since I'll be in attendance, but a loss would be preferred long term.

I guess it's a win/win night?
Fire a couple waffles on the ice just to ruffle their feathers a bit.

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03-27-2012, 10:39 AM
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If Montreal adds Grigorenko to Pacioretty, Subban and Price. Is it possible for me to throw up on a Habs fan?
My mom was from Montreal, my dad from here. They each rooted for their home town team. I was told I had to pick. I was 6. I picked the Stanley Cup champs, what could I do?

If I can survive them having the guys they had in the 70's, Grigorenko and those other guys are nothing.

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03-27-2012, 11:31 AM
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My mom was from Montreal, my dad from here. They each rooted for their home town team. I was told I had to pick. I was 6. I picked the Stanley Cup champs, what could I do?

If I can survive them having the guys they had in the 70's, Grigorenko and those other guys are nothing.
Mama's boy

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03-27-2012, 11:44 AM
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Let's tank like champs boys.

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As a Hurricanes fan I wish you guys the best of luck tonight.

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03-27-2012, 11:46 AM
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Lol this team would look a million times better with Skinner and Ward.
More small perimeter players is what you think this team needs right now?

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Winning today would be disastrous at all cylinders.

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03-27-2012, 12:45 PM
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this is a HUGE one to lose - i'll accept up to 4 points against Phi/Buf/Buf. it's the Carolina/Tampa/Montreal games that need our tanking.

30 mins for steckel line today imo

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Must lose game today...

Make us proud boys.

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As a Hurricanes fan I wish you guys the best of luck tonight.
Oh no we couldn't. We wish YOU the best of luck tonight.

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if we win i am going to cry. Honest

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Get your tissues ready

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This is a make or break tank night!

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These are the kind of games our team loves to win. Time to ignore the coach and pad the stats.

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03-27-2012, 03:09 PM
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this is a HUGE one to lose - i'll accept up to 4 points against Phi/Buf/Buf. it's the Carolina/Tampa/Montreal games that need our tanking.

30 mins for steckel line today imo
you do know that is the shutdown line right?


i hope Reims starts tonight

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03-27-2012, 03:13 PM
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I'm really hoping for a loss tonight, but I have the feeling the Leafs will win, or at least get a point in OT.

Come on leafs, regulation loss tonight!

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03-27-2012, 03:15 PM
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I think the Leafs will win and string a few together. Carlyle sounded really peeved today.

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03-27-2012, 03:29 PM
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Go for the win all the way. No tank, no way. Play hard every shift like it was your last.
Trying to lose is for "losers".

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03-27-2012, 03:34 PM
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If Leafs win with Reimer, Schenn etc. playing their eyeballs out. Great.
If Leafs lose. Great.
Que sera sera.

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03-27-2012, 03:43 PM
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Go for the win all the way. No tank, no way. Play hard every shift like it was your last.
Trying to lose is for "losers".

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Go for the win all the way. No tank, no way. Play hard every shift like it was your last.
Trying to lose is for "losers".
Sadly trying to lose isn't the only way.....

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03-27-2012, 03:53 PM
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If Leafs win with Reimer, Schenn etc. playing their eyeballs out. Great.
If Leafs lose. Great.
Que sera sera.
Well said, as usual ND.

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