patience will be needed with this team. they just don't have the depth yet. our #1 line would be a #2 at best on most teams, our #2 line a #3,and so on. what was disapointing about this loss for me was how sloppy they were in such a big game. poor passing, giveaways, lack of effort at times.
The top 4 D give you the best chance to win, that's the reason Stuart-Jones is not the #1 pairing seeing 20+ minutes a night.
The 3rd pairing regardless of who it is every night is usually around the 14-15 TOI range which means they are the ones you as a coach have the least amount of confidence in when compared to the other 2.
Noel saw Stuart and Jones struggle on the late first period goal and chose to bench them. Had it been Enstrom-Buff or Hainsey-Bogo the same consequences wouldn't have happened because they are the ones constantly seeing 20+ minutes a night against the oppositions top talent.
Again I don't agree with benching Stuart-Jones for the rest of the game after that, I'm simply trying to state it from another point of view.
Lynk, I understand and respect your opinion but just because you are a 2nd pairing or even a 1st pairing, you should be still be held accountable when misakes are made or as the case tonight, several mistakes. I'm not saying they should be benched, but neither should the 3rd pairing because one goal is scored against them. The same applies for the 4th line forwards. Foolish. That is why I called it poor coaching and I feel that's what cost the game.
Lynk, I understand and respect your opinion but just because you are a 2nd pairing or even a 1st pairing, you should be still be held accountable when misakes are made or as the case tonight, several mistakes. I'm not saying they should be benched, but neither should the 3rd pairing because one goal is scored against them. Foolish. That is why I called it poor coaching.
I do agree with you.
I thought Stuart was throwing the body very well and giving the physical presence that was lacking. And at the end of the day they really only made 1 error which was that goal thus why I don't think it warranted a game benching.
Playing 4D when you have 6 healthy ones most people will never agree with.
And people need to stop concerning about Pavs being overworked; Brodeur used to play 80 games a season. Pavs is young and athletic, if he feels good then let him start.
Sorry, have to disagree. Brodeur is a multiple Stanley Cup winner, an Olympic champion. I like Pavelec but clearly Brodeur has gone to the lengths and had the support to be a champion even when working as hard and long as he did.
There have been nights where the only reason Jets games were close or won by the Jets is Pavelec. But how many nights does he have to take himself to the limit? How many should he and how many has he? He's not up there in the upper tiers to be a miracle worker and carry a team when they let him down in front of him.
It's been a good first season.. It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy does now that he has an assessment of the team. My only issues with the roster is: -
-Not enough grit in the bottom six
-Byfuglien and Enstrom isn't an ideal 1st pairing. Byfuglien is a liability most games, and really limits Enstrom when he always has to cover up for Buff. You want your first pairing to be reliable.. this isn't.
-no first line center
Sorry, have to disagree. Brodeur is a multiple Stanley Cup winner, an Olympic champion. I like Pavelec but clearly Brodeur has gone to the lengths and had the support to be a champion even when working as hard and long as he did.
There have been nights where the only reason Jets games were close or won by the Jets is Pavelec. But how many nights does he have to take himself to the limit? How many should he and how many has he? He's not up there in the upper tiers to be a miracle worker and carry a team when they let him down in front of him.
Also Brodeur for a lot of years played with some stifling defenses in front of him; Pav gets hung out to dry quite a bit more.
Honestly I just want to see Mason get another start or two so I can see his cool Jets-logo'ed gear in play.
It's been a good first season.. It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy does now that he has an assessment of the team. My only issues with the roster is: -
-Not enough grit in the bottom six
-Byfuglien and Enstrom isn't an ideal 1st pairing. Byfuglien is a liability most games, and really limits Enstrom when he always has to cover up for Buff. You want your first pairing to be reliable.. this isn't.
-no first line center
*Sigh* I was so tired I feel asleep when the score was 2-0 Sens. I woke up just after Kane's goal but just in time to see the Sens score two. I'm going back to sleep.
Sorry, have to disagree. Brodeur is a multiple Stanley Cup winner, an Olympic champion. I like Pavelec but clearly Brodeur has gone to the lengths and had the support to be a champion even when working as hard and long as he did.
There have been nights where the only reason Jets games were close or won by the Jets is Pavelec. But how many nights does he have to take himself to the limit? How many should he and how many has he? He's not up there in the upper tiers to be a miracle worker and carry a team when they let him down in front of him.
Well said.
No one is going to argue that Pavelec has been the MVP this season, but at the end of the day he is not an established number 1 like so many other teams have been riding in these late stages.
Mason should've seen more time so that Pavelec could've been 100% for the times he had to play. At the very least, the coaches should've split Pavs and Mason on the back to backs.
It's been a good first season.. It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy does now that he has an assessment of the team. My only issues with the roster is: -
-Not enough grit in the bottom six
-Byfuglien and Enstrom isn't an ideal 1st pairing. Byfuglien is a liability most games, and really limits Enstrom when he always has to cover up for Buff. You want your first pairing to be reliable.. this isn't.
-no first line center
I think enstrom is the liability. Buff is a game changer afaic...
I kinda see goaltenders as MLB pitchers; no one is going to admit that he's feeling a little bit worn out and perhaps shouldn't be starting, or that the reliever should come in. He's going to want every start he can get.
It's been an exciting season overall, and that was a thrilling game. Result wasn't there and the mistakes were too numerous to count, but oh well.
I hope Chevy makes a serious play for a top line C by dangling one of their defensive assets, and makes a couple of signings that emphasize size and puck possession over flash and finesse. The makeup of this team, IMO, simply isn't conducive to playing a puck possession style. I see flashes of it, for sure. But over the course the season it's been lacking, and soft turnovers have been far too numerous.
Some slow, grinding games would do wonders for my blood pressure, that's for sure. I can't take these wild firewagon games anymore!
Enstrom is physically weak. He's like the Kyle Wellwood of Defense. Give him the puck and something magical COULD happen, but don't count on him displaying any feats of strength.
I think enstrom is the liability. Buff is a game changer afaic...
Enstrom would look way better if we could play him to his strengths. Be the go-to offensive guy on the back-end and have people cover up for him when needed. He's solid defensively... but he's not a defensive defenseman. Looking at the whole outlook on defense.. Buff just doesn't fit.
Buff brings more to the game and is more valuable , he isn't perfect by any means but far more valuable than Enstrom.
Like... constant odd-man rushes? He's not even very physical for his size. I don't mind him but he doesn't fit and there's too much risk involved with him being a top pairing defenseman.
Do you think Buff is a top pairing Dman on New York, Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Philly? No. You don't win with a defensive liability playing so much.
Enstrom would look way better if we could play him to his strengths. Be the go-to offensive guy on the back-end and have people cover up for him when needed. He's solid defensively... but he's not a defensive defenseman. Looking at the whole outlook on defense.. Buff just doesn't fit.
You are right. Byfuglien's style of play does not fit if we are truly trying to keep from having a run-and-gun style game night in and night out. That's his style of play, mega-risk/high-reward.
