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03-27-2012, 04:51 PM
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Chris Stewart to Ottawa

Draft day trade. What would be the price?


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Based on this season?

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or a LH 1st pairing dman

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I don't think there is a workable deal to make with Ottawa for Stewart. The only pieces that the Blues would be interested in are pieces that the Senators won't have any interest in moving.

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I don't think there is a workable deal to make with Ottawa for Stewart. The only pieces that the Blues would be interested in are pieces that the Senators won't have any interest in moving.
Because St-Louis overpaid to get him?

His decreasing value is based on his current year (73g/15/13/28pts) or his potential?

Why would a team give you a scoring upgrade to get Chris Stewart? Quantity for quality?

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Because St-Louis overpaid to get him?

His decreasing value is based on his current year (73g/15/13/28pts) or his potential?

Why would a team give you a scoring upgrade to get Chris Stewart? Quantity for quality?
Not sure why you have quoted me here.

The fact of the matter is that the Blues are in a position where they can be patient with Chris Stewart. We have no need to move him unless we are getting an organizational need addressed. That means top potential top pairing LHD or possibly a #2 center. We don't need picks, prospects that aren't NHL ready, wingers, RHD or goalies.

That doesn't mean we expect that trade Stewart alone for a top pairing LHD, we are fully aware it would need to be a package. Otherwise where is the incentive to move him?

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Because St-Louis overpaid to get him?

His decreasing value is based on his current year (73g/15/13/28pts) or his potential?

Why would a team give you a scoring upgrade to get Chris Stewart? Quantity for quality?
Why would the Blues trade him at his lowest value? It would make no sense. The Blues are winning have no need to trade him. The Blues will not make a trade that does not improve them. They can afford to be patient with Stewart and hope he has a good conditioning off season and comes in next season and plays up to his potential.

Unless someone like Cowen is on the table there is no need to talk about a trade.

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Why would the Blues trade him at his lowest value? It would make no sense. The Blues are winning have no need to trade him. The Blues will not make a trade that does not improve them. They can afford to be patient with Stewart and hope he has a good conditioning off season and comes in next season and plays up to his potential.

Unless someone like Cowen is on the table there is no need to talk about a trade.
How do you explain this big drop in his production?
The coach? well that would be a reason why you would not get the value you paid for him.

Anything wrong with his conditioning? He is 24 years old!!! WTF

The Blues will not make a trade that does not improve them ALL teams will try to make trade to improve their line up, not all succeed.

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How do you explain this big drop in his production?
The coach? well that would be a reason why you would not get the value you paid for him.

Anything wrong with his conditioning? He is 24 years old!!! WTF

The Blues will not make a trade that does not improve them ALL teams will try to make trade to improve their line up, not all succeed.
I would like a reason for the Blues to trade him.

Further, why would you want him, since he isn't producing?

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How do you explain this big drop in his production?
The coach? well that would be a reason why you would not get the value you paid for him.

Anything wrong with his conditioning? He is 24 years old!!! WTF

The Blues will not make a trade that does not improve them ALL teams will try to make trade to improve their line up, not all succeed.
Hitchcock has made statements about stewart needing to improve his conditioning. Sure he is 24 but a pro athlete's conditioning level far exceeds what the average 24 year old is capable of.

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if the Habs Pick-up Grigorenko at the draft what would you think of a Plekanec for Stewart trade?

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Stewart and your 2nd back for Michalek is the only thing I would do and Ottawa doesn't do it. Blues aren't trading to any teams without the other teams overpaying and even overpaying is a stretch for some players =\

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Stewart and your 2nd back for Michalek is the only thing I would do and Ottawa doesn't do it. Blues aren't trading to any teams without the other teams overpaying and even overpaying is a stretch for some players =\
I'm fairly sure that if Michalek is involved, it's St. Louis that'd have to over pay, not Ottawa.

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Stewart and your 2nd back for Michalek is the only thing I would do and Ottawa doesn't do it. Blues aren't trading to any teams without the other teams overpaying and even overpaying is a stretch for some players =\
Bolded the only part of your post that makes sense and I agree with. Trade a 34 (so far) goal scorer who has chemistry with Spezza for a struggling forward and a mid-late 2nd? Um, no.

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I'm fairly sure that if Michalek is involved, it's St. Louis that'd have to over pay, not Ottawa.
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if the Habs Pick-up Grigorenko at the draft what would you think of a Plekanec for Stewart trade?
Just say no.

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Stewart and your 2nd back for Michalek is the only thing I would do and Ottawa doesn't do it. Blues aren't trading to any teams without the other teams overpaying and even overpaying is a stretch for some players =\
I would not like that no. Seeing what Stewart did this year (a player that I actually have tromendous respect for) I would only consider giving "future pieces" ffor him. I have no interest in giving roster players, and I dont think that interest the Blues, so its a no go

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Chris Stewart for Jared Cowen

The Blues need to find a LH d-man to pair with Alex Pietrangelo. Cowen profiles as a shutdown top pairing guy that can put up 20-30 points.

Stewart can still easily be a 25-30 goal scorer, just not in Hitchcock's system.

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Chris Stewart for Jared Cowen
The Blues need to find a LH d-man to pair with Alex Pietrangelo. Cowen profiles as a shutdown top pairing guy that can put up 20-30 points.

Stewart can still easily be a 25-30 goal scorer, just not in Hitchcock's system.
That would be a hell to tha no from Ottawa.

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Chris Stewart for Jared Cowen

The Blues need to find a LH d-man to pair with Alex Pietrangelo. Cowen profiles as a shutdown top pairing guy that can put up 20-30 points.

Stewart can still easily be a 25-30 goal scorer, just not in Hitchcock's system.
After this season, Cowen has more value or potential than Stewart.

"St. Louis Blues traded Erik Johnson, Jay McClement and a conditional first-round draft pick in 2011 or 2012 to the Colorado Avalanche for Chris Stewart, Kevin Shattenkirk and a conditional second-round draft pick in 2011 or 2012"

Why didn't you trade Johnson for a LH 1st pairing D instead of Stewart?

Cowen profiles as a shutdown top pairing guy that can put up 20-30 points So basically you want to trade Cowen (our future first pairing defense 35-50pts, he will be paired with Karlsson) for a 28pts guy this year?

I think you should lowered your expectation. I don't mind trading for Stewart but not for his 09-10 value.

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After this season, Cowen has more value or potential than Stewart.

Why didn't you trade Johnson for a LH 1st pairing D instead of Stewart?
Because we traded Johnson for a better RH d-man in Shattenkirk(oh baby is he ever better) and we also got Chris Stewart, who only scored 28 goals in back to back years.

BTW, if Ottawa doesn't want to part with Cowen then we have nothing further to talk about.

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I would like a reason for the Blues to trade him.

Further, why would you want him, since he isn't producing?
Buy low, keep high...

We think he could have potential within the Sens offensive system. and also because Bryan Murray likes the big guys.

He may have the same value as Foligno right now because of his years with Colorado.

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Because we traded Johnson for a better RH d-man in Shattenkirk(oh baby is he ever better) and we also got Chris Stewart, who only scored 28 goals in back to back years.

BTW, if Ottawa doesn't want to part with Cowen then we have nothing further to talk about.
Even if Shatty's better now, he wasn't when he was traded and Stewart was the centerpiece going to St Louis there's no doubt about that. So your post doesn't make much sense.

And last but not least Cowen >> Stewart value wise at the moment.

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Because we traded Johnson for a better RH d-man in Shattenkirk(oh baby is he ever better) and we also got Chris Stewart, who only scored 28 goals in back to back years.

BTW, if Ottawa doesn't want to part with Cowen then we have nothing further to talk about.
exactly what I said

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It will be interesting to see where Stewart fits in next year, if anywhere, on the blues. I thought Schwartz would be in Peoria next year but now that the blues have started his "clock" he looks like he'll be in the NHL in 12-13. If Tarasenko comes over as we're expecting, Stewart might be the odd man out. It would be nice to package him with something else for a scoring upgrade, but who knows what will happen. If the blues do feel like he doesn't fit, I could see them trading him off for picks and prospects. Not going to speculate on what those would be. Would have to at least start with a first or they'd probably just hold on to him...

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