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Caps should've traded their soon-to-be FA's for picks at the trade deadline and done a semi-rebuild.
Vokoun, Wideman and Semin could all've brought back 1st rounders at the moment and Knuble probably a low 2nd. Erskine, Hamrlik and Schultz should also have been turned into picks or prospects.
Add those 5 1st round picks and Ovechkin, Backstrom, Brouwer, Green, Carlson, Alzner, Eakin, Johansson, Orlov, Neuvirth, Holtby, Kuznetsov, Galiev and Kundratek and you have a good to great young team in a few seasons.
Keep the picks caps!! Let these posters then drool over the potential nhl ready prospects you have while caps fans laugh at the offers,and players like Getzlaf have lost even more than they have.
Why are people acting like these are such low picks? If Calgary picks up at least a point against LA, we're in position to have picks 11 and 12. At that spot, the Caps are guaranteed a 2C with size and grit in one of Radek Faksa or Brendan Gaunce, plus a defenseman with top pairing potential in Griffin Reinhart, Morgan Reilly, or Cody Ceci. These aren't guys with major flaws or bust potential, these are the guys who barely fall out of the top 10, and this is a Caps team that's well above average at drafting in the first round. They've got serious value. I'd rather keep the picks.
Plekanec could be had for that cost. I agree, it's a little steep, but perhaps Nattinen could be added into the mix.
Most of the first-rounder busts were picked between #18-#30.
Usually matter in how good the draft is you're going to get a bust or two in the top ten. You're more likely to get a bust in those picks but none of them are sure things. That's why pick don't have as much value as some people believe. Especially when you hit that drop off in talent that every draft has.
Package them together for the 2nd pick. Draft Grigorenko Re-sign Semin. Get Ovechkin, Semin, Orlov, and Grigorenko to use their Russian powers of persuasion to get Kuznetsov to come over.
Again, players with one year until UFA don't return the same kind of trade value as players 8 years from UFA.
Look, if you can't grasp that this is a player we expect to sign an extension with, then that's on you. If circumstances change then you can expect a cheaper price. Till then, the price is for us to change our plans.
Package them together for the 2nd pick. Draft Grigorenko Re-sign Semin. Get Ovechkin, Semin, Orlov, and Grigorenko to use their Russian powers of persuasion to get Kuznetsov to come over.
i would approve if that was enough to get grigorenko, who knows maybe 1 of the caps or avs picks gets top 10
The caps have no high end depth at forward and this season could be a blessing in disguise if they can land two potential top six players. As mentioned Gaunce/Faksa and Reinhardt/Ceci or even one of the three swedish forwards should be available. In two years when the current core is mature and these two picks are stepping in as young hungry players..you will wish your team had the luxury.
Let's assume the Caps pack both their first rounders (e.g. 11, 12 pick) to trade for a player (center). Who would you give?
My guesses:
Joe Pavelski
Ryan Getzlaf
Tomas Plekanec
Ryan O'Reilly (though that's a longshot to say the least).
For the players you listed:
Pavelski, if the Sharks bomb out this season, either missing the playoffs or going down in round 1, then the Sharks need to make moves. However, the moves would likely involve the older guys like Thornton/Marleau/Havlat rather than Pavelski. Don't see the benefit of extra 1st rounders to go with those 3 veterans.
Getzlaf, not a great season for him this year. He's a UFA in 2013, so unless he doesn't sign an extension with the Ducks in the summer, I don't imagine he would get traded. Of their big 3, Ryan is the most likely to get moved.
Plekanec, I could see the Habs moving him if they are going for do a re-tooling of their franchise.
O'Reilly, doing as well as you can expect a #12 overall pick to do in the NHL one day, so no reason for them to move him.
IMO, Bachman is solid and Lehtonen can be moved if they get a solid backup (i.e. Holtby). Both can split time. Three first rounders can go a long way for an organization that doesn't have a solid prospect pool or tons of cash. The money saved on Ribiero & Lehtonen can be used to retain guys like Benn who are the future of the team and to bring in some 2nd tier UFAs they could use i.e. (Jokinen, Stoll, Corvo, etc.)
Or
Brassard & a 2nd for the pair of first rounders. The Jacket's 2nd will be very high. Brassard is showing signs of what he can achieve and getting out of Columbus would only help that.
Jackets have Johansen, Umberger and whoever they pick with their high first rounder coming down the pipe. Brassard can be moved and why not for a 1st rounder while simultaneously advancing their 2nd rounder 20 or so spots
Else
Go for a guy like Ruutu, Clowe, Dubinsky, etc. A pair of first rounders should be enough to land them and a team like Carolina or SJ might be looking to shake things up.
There's going to be atleast 1 HUGE trade in the offseason, why not Iginla getting a chance at a cup run?
The Flames have an awful prospect pool and they get 2 picks and a 21 year old Center.
That move would force Alexander Semin out. The difference between Iginla and Semin is not two 1st round picks and Johansson. Obviously any contending team would rather have Iggy, but I don't think the differential is worth the cost.
If the Caps move their firsts, it would be for a bigger position of need than winger. Namely center or 1LD.
I doubt the two picks are moved for a player on the wrong side of thirty years old. Iggy is nice and I know calgary wants/needs to rebuild....but as Mcphee says hes not doing a rebuild for you. Caps are not a Jarome Iginla away either. Its simple...keep picks have stacked team in three years.
Let's assume the Caps pack both their first rounders (e.g. 11, 12 pick) to trade for a player (center). Who would you give?
My guesses:
Joe Pavelski
Ryan Getzlaf
Tomas Plekanec
Ryan O'Reilly (though that's a longshot to say the least).
Why would the ducks trade Getzlaf, it makes no sense from their POV to get rid of their (still young) #1 center for two unproven prospects years away from making an impact?
IMO, Bachman is solid and Lehtonen can be moved if they get a solid backup (i.e. Holtby). Both can split time. Three first rounders can go a long way for an organization that doesn't have a solid prospect pool or tons of cash. The money saved on Ribiero & Lehtonen can be used to retain guys like Benn who are the future of the team and to bring in some 2nd tier UFAs they could use i.e. (Jokinen, Stoll, Corvo, etc.)
God no... i would PROBABLY(not definitely) move ribeiro for those 2 picks... you sure as hell aren't getting lehtonen for holtby when we have bachman, and beskorawny and campbell in the AHL... and let's clear some things up... Dallas has a decent prospect pool that is week down the middle, also WE DON'T HAVE MONEY ISSUES AND WE AREN'T GOING TO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SIGN BENN OR ANY DUMB ASS **** LIKE THAT
But seriously.... maybe Washington should think about drafting some defensemen.... you know that position your team doesn't play very well.
Is October 2010 last time you saw Caps play? Caps have a tremendous group of Alzner, Carlson, Green and Orlov on the back-end, only need cheap, steady complementary players, preferably veterans.
