I think when you draft top 5 you expect that person to be an impact player within 3 years. year 1 is forgiving year 2 you expect improvement and year 3 you hope he can be an elite player on your team.
Those are ridiculous expectations, even for a #1 overall pick, let alone "just a top-5"
By the way, what's the best comparison out there for Forsberg? And how does he compare in terms of talent to recently drafted Zibanejad and Silfverberg?
All I know is that he's far more talented than Zibanejad if you want to start a pissing match with Sen fans. Zibanejad I see more of a more talented Mike Fisher.
2012 by all accounts is a pretty good draft in regards to top end talent. Just isn't that deep of a draft.
How can anyone say that about any draft? No one knows how any draft will turn out. If we knew what late round players were good, they wouldnt be late round players.
Outside of the surefire top few picks, ANY drat year is a complete and utter crap shoot.
I am not good at predicting potential but I don't see why he could not be a top line player with +30 goals. Less scoring more physical version of Kessel maybe...
He seems to set up his shot just like Kessel.
Craig Button on TSN seemed to think he could play centre.
All I know is that he's far more talented than Zibanejad if you want to start a pissing match with Sen fans. Zibanejad I see more of a more talented Mike Fisher.
Zibanejad is much higher potential than Fisher.
Forsberg is a better prospect in his draft year than Ziba or Silfverberg.
There was a lot of yapping about the 2011 draft being a weak one but it doesn't really look that way right now. I say look at how much 1st round picks get moved to see how weak a draft is perceived to be by the hockey people. So far only 3 picks have been moved.
I just thought of something, I think most of us here can agree that we will not become an annual playoff lock with our current core. IF we won the lottery and got yakupov, what would people think about trading Phanuef and Lupul + for additional top 10 picks to also select Forsberg and Galchenyuk. Gallchenyuk is listed as a Centre, Yakupov is listed as a RW and Forsberg is listed as a LW...... future first line?
Say we gave up Phanuf + 2nd for a pick between 6-8 and Lupul + Blacker + Dmigo for a pick between 4-6 we would be able to get all three.
I just thought of something, I think most of us here can agree that we will not become an annual playoff lock with our current core. IF we won the lottery and got yakupov, what would people think about trading Phanuef and Lupul + for additional top 10 picks to also select Forsberg and Galchenyuk. Gallchenyuk is listed as a Centre, Yakupov is listed as a RW and Forsberg is listed as a LW...... future first line?
Say we gave up Phanuf + 2nd for a pick between 6-8 and Lupul + Blacker + Dmigo for a pick between 4-6 we would be able to get all three.
Please not Matt Dumba, yeah he's impact but he lacks hockey IQ, his athleticism and determination covers up some of his mistakes but he is Dion 2.0, I'd take Murray over him all day everyday.
Realistically I hope we get Gally. Damn those extra 1st round picks at trade deadline would've helped now .
Comments like these are going to look bad in a couple years. The Dion comparisons are more from when he was a Norris candidate. Dumba will be a far better player than Dion is currently if he pans out.
Matt Dumba hate is a tad ridiculous. He's a Phaneuf type player, but he has so many more tools. IMO my only knock on him from limited viewing is he sometimes doesn't know when to make a hit, but usually his decision-making is great.
He's an incredible skater, much better at following the man and not getting beat to the insde like Phaneuf is sometimes prone too.
I just thought of something, I think most of us here can agree that we will not become an annual playoff lock with our current core. IF we won the lottery and got yakupov, what would people think about trading Phanuef and Lupul + for additional top 10 picks to also select Forsberg and Galchenyuk. Gallchenyuk is listed as a Centre, Yakupov is listed as a RW and Forsberg is listed as a LW...... future first line?
Say we gave up Phanuf + 2nd for a pick between 6-8 and Lupul + Blacker + Dmigo for a pick between 4-6 we would be able to get all three.
Matt Dumba hate is a tad ridiculous. He's a Phaneuf type player, but he has so many more tools. IMO my only knock on him from limited viewing is he sometimes doesn't know when to make a hit, but usually his decision-making is great.
He's an incredible skater, much better at following the man and not getting beat to the insde like Phaneuf is sometimes prone too.
Yeah he has a habit of going for the big hits over staying positionally sound sometimes, that should be gradually weeded out of his game though.
You're right his skating really sets him and Phaneuf apart.
I just thought of something, I think most of us here can agree that we will not become an annual playoff lock with our current core. IF we won the lottery and got yakupov, what would people think about trading Phanuef and Lupul + for additional top 10 picks to also select Forsberg and Galchenyuk. Gallchenyuk is listed as a Centre, Yakupov is listed as a RW and Forsberg is listed as a LW...... future first line?
Say we gave up Phanuf + 2nd for a pick between 6-8 and Lupul + Blacker + Dmigo for a pick between 4-6 we would be able to get all three.
There is no chance of this happening. If the Leafs could have traded lesser players for 4 firsts, plus held on to our first at the deadline and said no, its pretty clear that gutting the lineup for picks isn't in the cards.
Just not going to happen. There's no chance that teams start giving up top 10 picks like candy for our guys and that we have a 1st line of 18 year olds.
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