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10-15-2014, 08:40 AM
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Eric Staal

Do you think this will be his last season as a Hurricane?

I have a feeling he's going to be traded by the TDL if not sooner.

I think GMRF is ready to start building this into his own team, and not holding onto Eric, and getting a good return for him for us to build around.

I think a change of scenery will be a big boost to Erics career, his complacent here has affected him and others around here.

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10-15-2014, 08:42 AM
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If we do suck the whole year, I do think he'll be gone by the draft worst case scenario. I'm not even sure he'd mind at that point, though he obviously won't agree to be traded just anywhere. I would hate it, he's been my favorite player. But if you can get some really good assets and a ton of cap space, it might be the best thing long term even if it hurts short term.

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management probably wants to give everything more than THREE games before jumping to conclusions................

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10-15-2014, 10:02 AM
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I agree rocky. That's why I said if they continue to suck. I'm still delusional enough to hope everyone but Jordan is close to coming back, we can make some progress while Jordan's still gone, and kill it when he gets back, until it doesn't happen. Being a fan wouldn't be much fun otherwise. But if they do suck much much later in the year, it needs to be considered at this point.

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10-15-2014, 10:14 AM
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management probably wants to give everything more than THREE games before jumping to conclusions................
We've had a few years to come to conclusions about JRs core, time for a new core.

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Eric Staal has the final say. Curious to how this situation will play out. We he waive without Jordan? Does he want to give this season a shot?

Like Mckenzie said, Eric is happy here. He just wants to win, and he probably holds himself most accountable for the team not winning. A few years ago it seemed pretty clear that Eric wasn't happy and didn't feel he had support. That is why JR went out and got him Jordan and Semin. Things haven't gone as expected for the fans or Eric since that happened. So maybe he is ready to move on?

I wonder if he would be willing to go home and play for Toronto. They really aren't in a much better situation than us as far as winning. I would be happy with a package of Kadri, Gardiner and a 1st though.

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10-15-2014, 10:42 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Eric wants to move on, but I'm willing to be that Ron Francis would have to grovel at Eric's feet to get him to waive his NTC to go to Toronto. They're not much better than the 'Canes, and it's a high-intensity market. Eric would get ripped to shreds.

The worst he has had to endure here is John Forslund calling him out indirectly ("The leaders have to lead", said before the home opener). You think with his uninspired defensive play and cold streaks that he would fly under the radar in Toronto?

Plus, the 'Canes are probably going to suck enough to get a high draft pick anyway with him. If McDavid/Eichel is truly what the 'Canes are aiming for, they need to trade Eric now. By the time the deadline rolls around it will be too late.

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Rumours swirl about Staal coming to Toronto

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Who is a worse columnist: Steve Simmons or Damien Cox?

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Steve Simmons ainec

Simmons is just straight up retarded, Cox is mostly just a **** for the spin

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it's closer than that. I'd say it's a tie.

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Kadri, Gardiner, 1st would make me happy.

We'd then need to put our focus to drafting skilled RWs with size.

We'd look something like:

Skinner-Kadri-Lindholm
Tlusty-JStaal-Semin
Gerbe-Rask-XXXX
XXXX-Nash-Boychuk

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Kadri, Gardiner, 1st would make me happy.

We'd then need to put our focus to drafting skilled RWs with size.

We'd look something like:

Skinner-Kadri-Lindholm
Tlusty-JStaal-Semin
Gerbe-Rask-XXXX
XXXX-Nash-Boychuk
is it possible to get a negative pick in the draft?

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is it possible to get a negative pick in the draft?
Paradis?

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Kadri, Gardiner, 1st would make me happy.

We'd then need to put our focus to drafting skilled RWs with size.

We'd look something like:

Skinner-Kadri-Lindholm
Tlusty-JStaal-Semin
Gerbe-Rask-XXXX
XXXX-Nash-Boychuk
I'd take that trade for E Staal.

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Yeah, that's a definite starting point for the trade. I doubt Carolina gets that much for him though.

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10-15-2014, 01:56 PM
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Why? look at what comparable players have brought in recent years

The Kesler trade Leafs fans have been throwing around doesn't compare since he's not the same tier of player as Staal, never has been. And he's not an impending UFA like Spezza.

But look at the returns that guys like Ryan and Nash brought

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Why? look at what comparable players have brought in recent years

The Kesler trade Leafs fans have been throwing around doesn't compare since he's not the same tier of player as Staal, never has been. And he's not an impending UFA like Spezza.

But look at the returns that guys like Ryan and Nash brought
Spezza wasn't a UFA, he had a year left on his deal. So I would think the Spezza return would be the best comparison, they are very similar players...

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Spezza wasn't a UFA, he had a year left on his deal. So I would think the Spezza return would be the best comparison, they are very similar players...
Offseason trade leading into UFA vs essentially two seasons of play.

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Nova beat me to it. Toronto would be getting nearly 2 full seasons out of Staal, not one and a half (LOL) or just one like Dallas is getting out of Spezza.

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Gardiner sucks.

We would need Percy or Rielly + kadri + 1st.

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10-15-2014, 02:24 PM
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I don't think we'd get Reilly, but Percy I think would be doable. Honestly think most Leafs fans would rather do him then Gardiner from what I can tell as well, though that might just have to do with not breaking up their current defense.

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Gardiner sucks.

We would need Percy or Rielly + kadri + 1st.
Uhhhh no Gardiner has been the Leafs best defenseman over the last few years.

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