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03-29-2012, 08:48 PM
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As for today, Toronto's 5th team in Draft Lottery standings.

I know they've got 5 games left, but let's say they will be where they are today.

My question is : If Toronto won the draft lottery and got 1st overall, would they pick Grigorenko with that pick, because of need for center, even though Yakupov is BPA ???

The question is not about the certain team, it's about the fact where the need is more (probably) then BPA.
As a Pens fan I know how important is to have great centers.

I'll appreciate your meaningful opinions.
If they really wanted to do this, it'd make more sense for them to trade down 1 spot. Pick up another asset and still get their man.

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They will package it with next year's #1 overall for a center

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03-30-2012, 11:17 AM
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**** no.

If Burke doesn't go BPA at first overall...

Knowing him, he'd probably go for Jake Trouba at #1

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Hypothetical fan reaction here if the Leafs draft 1st overall:

1.Did Bettman rig the lottery? (1 2 3 4 5 ... last page)
2.Were all the balls weighted to Toronto? (1 2 3 4 5 ... last page)
3.Bettman admits to draft weighting for Leafs (thread locked)
4.Confirmed with link: Internet sports forums melt down after Leafs draft #1.


They will draft Grigorenko or Yakupov if they get that low. They will (may?) try to trade the 5 pick, w/Schenn/Kadri/etc for Nash though..

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03-30-2012, 12:22 PM
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They will trade 1st overall to the Habs for a package involving Plekanec

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03-30-2012, 12:24 PM
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They will trade 1st overall to the Habs for a package involving Plekanec
1st, Rynnas, Colborne, 2nd in 2012 for Price, Pacioretti, Tinordi, Habs 2nd in 2011.


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03-30-2012, 12:40 PM
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Burke is in a position right now where it's pretty much do or die from here on out. If he was smart he would trade Kessel and ensure that the Leafs are in the running for MacKinnon next year and possibly McDavid the year after. He has a few attractive trade pieces (more than what he started with) like Kessel, Gardener but I would keep the D man. Kessel for a top 10 could be a good basis to work around. If the Leafs won the lottery this year its definitely Yaks. I would hope they would try for Galchenyuk as well if they were to acquire another pic.
If Burke does that, he almost guarantee himself getting fired and never seeing the fruits of his work.
The time for the Leafs to use that strategy was 3 years ago, not now.

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03-30-2012, 12:45 PM
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You take Nail every single time. Then deal Kessel for a high pick and take Grigo/Gal. Then again Burkie wouldn't do this.
For sure, I mean Leafs fans can wait a couple more years and hope that one of those two turns out better than Kessel right?

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Draft Yakupov, trade Kessel for a #1 center.

Not sure who would ship a 1C for Kessel, though... Kessel for Krejci? Hehe.
Colorado has poor wing depth and Duchene isn't performing well lately.

Kessel for Duchene straight up.

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Yakupov.

While I do believe position matters when picking, when the BPA is a step above the competition you take that player.

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Burke is in a position right now where it's pretty much do or die from here on out. If he was smart he would trade Kessel and ensure that the Leafs are in the running for MacKinnon next year and possibly McDavid the year after. He has a few attractive trade pieces (more than what he started with) like Kessel, Gardener but I would keep the D man. Kessel for a top 10 could be a good basis to work around. If the Leafs won the lottery this year its definitely Yaks. I would hope they would try for Galchenyuk as well if they were to acquire another pic.
This is one of the most moronic ideas that has somehow propagated itself on these boards.

Trading a 24 year old with four straight 30 goal seasons under his belt, and who will finish top 10 in goals and scoring just to get a top 10 pick?

Yeah that's a great way to start a rebuild. No rebuilds trade the old pieces that won't fit in a couple years, not the young attractive pieces.

I wouldn't trade Kessel for Yakupov straight up and anyone that would is a moron. Kessel will and should be a part of any rebuild on any team in the league because he's a piece you can build around (yes I said build around).

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If they did they should trade Kessel and take Yakupov. The Leafs are not 2 years away from competing for a cup and I think Kessel walks in 2 years.
Yeah maybe if they're lucky they can get 2 1sts and 2nd for him

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If this happened and I was in Burkes shoes, I would try to trade down and grab both Gally and Grigo. I think it would be a decent idea and maybe trade first overall+lupul/kadri/kulemin to a team like the blue jackets for their 1st overall and maybe try to get a 3-way deal going. Just my random input.

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If this happened and I was in Burkes shoes, I would try to trade down and grab both Gally and Grigo. I think it would be a decent idea and maybe trade first overall+lupul/kadri/kulemin to a team like the blue jackets for their 1st overall and maybe try to get a 3-way deal going. Just my random input.
theres 2 first overall picks this season? :

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Galchenyuk because he's American

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For one thing I can almost guarantee that no matter where the Leafs finish this season a team behind them will win the lottery and push them back a spot.

That said, if the hypothetical in the OP did occur, I think that the Leafs would take Yakupov at #1 overall.

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Kessel for J Staal, you're welcome

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Galchenyuk because he's American
Darn it! You beat me to it.

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This is one of the most moronic ideas that has somehow propagated itself on these boards.

Trading a 24 year old with four straight 30 goal seasons under his belt, and who will finish top 10 in goals and scoring just to get a top 10 pick?

Yeah that's a great way to start a rebuild. No rebuilds trade the old pieces that won't fit in a couple years, not the young attractive pieces.

I wouldn't trade Kessel for Yakupov straight up and anyone that would is a moron. Kessel will and should be a part of any rebuild on any team in the league because he's a piece you can build around (yes I said build around).
People sure overrate their top 10 picks.

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theres 2 first overall picks this season? :
Im glad you put that sarcastic face into your comment otherwise I would be confused with whether you were illiterate.

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1st, Rynnas, Colborne, 2nd in 2012 for Price, Pacioretti, Tinordi, Habs 2nd in 2011.

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For one thing I can almost guarantee that no matter where the Leafs finish this season a team behind them will win the lottery and push them back a spot.
Oh god please yes.

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Gary Bettman

"we have a trade to announce, the Toronto Maple Leafs trade pick #1 to the Philadelphia Flyers for C Brayden Schenn. Philly you are now up..."
Strangely enough, I could see that. Burke loves his "truculence'.

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It doesn't matter who's picking #1 overall, they're going to select Nail Yakupov.

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This place would go nuclear if the Leafs won the lottery.

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