Because there's no difference at all between talking about someone's overall game, and their technical game as a centerman, right?
It's really simple.
Peverley is better than Krejci at the technical center game -- when you combine all the aspects of the game that are unique to being a center, such as being the primary at the dot and having additional defensive responsibilities, Peverley is better at those things than Krejci.
Krejci is not sufficiently worse than Peverley at those technical aspects, that his overwhelming advantage on offense can't make up for it. Especially when he's playing at a level he's capable of.
I can also see how Krejci can be a bit of an acquired taste though, since he's not really a self starter and the Bruins ethos prefers self starters -- you know that, I know that.
Frankly both Peverley and Krejci are decent options at center, for different reasons. For the sake of balancing the line, I can see putting the more defensively and technically skilled centerman at center and the more offensively gifted man at wing. It makes sense on paper because of what these two men are. It probably makes no difference in the end though. Frankly, I like having 2 centers on each line. Gives us an edge.
Krejci is a center and a damn good one. I'm wondering how long they can keep Seguin on the wing- it seems pretty clear that the kid is a natural fit for center. We always hear about his skating and his shot, but what always seems to stand out most is his passing and playmaking ability.
I'm wondering how long they can keep Seguin on the wing- what always seems to stand out most is his passing and playmaking ability.
When? Frankly, I find him to be one of the most aggravating and frustrating (for me) players to watch on the team. His NHL game has practically vaporized and he's back to being his junior-player self again, trying to do everything and at the same time doing nothing.
He's done nothing to show me he is a superior center and his talents as a winger have back slid. He has speed. He has lost his playmaking.
Krejci is a center and a damn good one. I'm wondering how long they can keep Seguin on the wing- it seems pretty clear that the kid is a natural fit for center. We always hear about his skating and his shot, but what always seems to stand out most is his passing and playmaking ability.
When? Frankly, I find him to be one of the most aggravating and frustrating (for me) players to watch on the team. His NHL game has practically vaporized and he's back to being his junior-player self again, trying to do everything and at the same time doing nothing.
He's done nothing to show me he is a superior center and his talents as a winger have back slid. He has speed. He has lost his playmaking.
Agreed. Krejci doesn't have the leadership, the consistency and the compete level to be consider as a #1 centerman. This season raised huge red flags when it become to Krejci and you have to wonder if the Bruins will try to move him in the right deal, this off-season. I mean... The guy was demoted to the 3rd line and then on wings and still... he wasn't getting the message. Krejci's disappearing acts were detrimental to the team, this year and you have to wonder what would happen to the Bruins if Bergeron is injuried. When Bergeron's line ( our best line this year ) was out of gaz, i was naive enough to think that krejci would raise his compete level. How wrong i was...
On paper, Krejci is a centerman. That said, i'm not sure that he have the consistency to turn into a 1A centerman. The fact that Claude had to move him to wings is very telling about this whole situation
The fact that Ryder has 35 goals and Wheeler 60 points show that it may be Clode's moves that are very telling.
The fact that Ryder has 35 goals and Wheeler 60 points show that it may be Clode's moves that are very telling.
Really? So Claude was responsible for their lack of production? That's news to me. Maybe we should ask Bergeron or Seguin on Claude's negative influence on their offensive stats.
Agreed. Krejci doesn't have the leadership, the consistency and the compete level to be consider as a #1 centerman. This season raised huge red flags when it become to Krejci and you have to wonder if the Bruins will try to move him in the right deal, this off-season. I mean... The guy was demoted to the 3rd line and then on wings and still... he wasn't getting the message. Krejci's disappearing acts were detrimental to the team, this year and you have to wonder what would happen to the Bruins if Bergeron is injuried. When Bergeron's line ( our best line this year ) was out of gaz, i was naive enough to think that krejci would raise his compete level. How wrong i was...
I hate to tell you this, but the Bruins think much more highly of Krejci than you do, which is why they made it a priority to re-sign him with a limited NTC.
And raise his compete level? Who led the comeback against the Caps
last night? Somebody who stole Krejci's jersey?
I hate to tell you this, but the Bruins think much more highly of Krejci than you do, which is why they made it a priority to re-sign him with a limited NTC.
And raise his compete level? Who led the comeback against the Caps
last night? Somebody who stole Krejci's jersey?
Well, i wonder if we ask chiarelli, between close doors, if he would re-do that extension what would be his answer... You're pointing out last night but quite frankly, it doesn't make it up for all the game where he was a no show. Ask your self this very question: If Krejci was really a " go to " guy, in Chiarelli's mind, why he didn't gave Krejci a FULL NTC? I think the answer is in the question.
well, i wonder if we ask chiarelli, between close doors, if he would re-do that extension what would be his answer... You're pointing out last night but quite frankly, it doesn't make it up for all the game where he was a no show. Ask your self this very question: If krejci was really a " go to " guy, in chiarelli's mind, why he didn't gave him a full ntc? I think the answer is in the question.
Well,well, i wonder if we ask chiarelli, between close doors, if he would re-do that extension what would be his answer... You're pointing out last night but quite frankly, it doesn't make it up for all the game where he was a no show. Ask your self this very question: If Krejci was really a " go to " guy, in Chiarelli's mind, why he didn't gave Krejci a FULL NTC? I think the answer is in the question.
Not sure I buy this. Chia valued him enough to pay him more than anyone on the team but Chara. I don't see the limited no trade as a sign they're not sold on the guy.
Well,well, i wonder if we ask chiarelli, between close doors, if he would re-do that extension what would be his answer... You're pointing out last night but quite frankly, it doesn't make it up for all the game where he was a no show. Ask your self this very question: If Krejci was really a " go to " guy, in Chiarelli's mind, why he didn't gave Krejci a FULL NTC? I think the answer is in the question.
Well, considering what happened this year, i'm not that sure that Chiarelli would have re-signed #46 so quickly at the numbers he did. You're pointing out last night but quite frankly, it doesn't make it up for all the game where he was a no show. Ask your self this very question: If Krejci was really a " go to " guy, in Chiarelli's mind, why he didn't gave Krejci a FULL NTC? I think the answer is in the question.
Funny, people complain about Chiarelli giving out NTCs, then cite that him NOT giving a full one is some sign of disfavor.
NTCs take many different forms, and aren't necessarily offered by the GM. They're a negotiating tool, and a player can request an NTC tailored to his own desires.
Even though he's been one of the top Bruins for years, was ranked in the top 50 NHL players in a players' poll (#36, IIRC), led them in playoff scoring when they won the Cup, and watched them lose four straight when he got hurt, you hate the guy. I can't fathom it, but hey, keep campaigning, whatever makes you happy.
Funny, people complain about Chiarelli giving out NTCs, then cite that him NOT giving a full one is some sign of disfavor.
NTCs take many different forms, and aren't necessarily offered by the GM. They're a negotiating tool, and a player can request an NTC tailored to his own desires.
Even though he's been one of the top Bruins for years, was ranked in the top 50 NHL players in a players' poll (#36, IIRC), led them in playoff scoring when they won the Cup, and watched them lose four straight when he got hurt, you hate the guy. I can't fathom it, but hey, keep campaigning, whatever makes you happy.
The " people " complained about the NTC when they are giving to players who are not a part of the core. Giving a FULL NTC to Chara or Bergeron is not a problem but it becomes one when you gave them to players like Sturm. And please stop with the " hate " thing. Everything i tell you about the disappearing acts, the demotion on the 3rd line/wings actually happened. It was a coach decision to wake up someone who was/still is in the coma.
Some people aren't too bright and others are upset that he has a higher cap hit than Bergeron.
That's why.
Maybe you can explain why Bergeron sit at 58 points with a +32 while old friend Krejci sit at 57 points with a -7... Are you telling me that Horton, Lucic and now Seguin are responsible for his lack of defensive awarness?
Maybe you can explain why Bergeron sit at 58 points with a +32 while old friend Krejci sit at 57 points with a -7... Are you telling me that Horton, Lucic and now Seguin are responsible for his lack of defensive awarness?
I guess that means Filip Kuba is the best defenseman in the league.
Maybe you can explain why Bergeron sit at 58 points with a +32 while old friend Krejci sit at 57 points with a -7... Are you telling me that Horton, Lucic and now Seguin are responsible for his lack of defensive awarness?
The guy has been above average defensively his entire career. You want to get rid of him now because he's a -7 on the season? Lidstrom was a minus player last year too, these things happen.
I know you're only upset that Krejci has a higher cap hit than Bergeron, for some reason this offends you. Not sure why exactly, but oh well. This team is better with Krejci at center, there is no denying that.
I ain't gonna lie, I've wanted to see it but based on nothing other then the very small (what 2 game?) sample size. He looked very good on the wing, was quite physical, and played a far more straight forward up and down game which surprisingly seemed to suit him. That said, it was a small sample size and that added oomph we saw from him could have had more to do with motivation then anything.
My real motivation is that I want to see Seguin moved to center between Krejci and Lucic. I think Seguin playing center will better play to his strengths, give him more space to work with and would mean he would be later to join the play in the offensive end instead giving him more solid scoring chances. I think his defensive game has progressed enough to allow this to happen, although there would be no doubt some bumps along the way.
Common sense however dictates that this isn't a make it happen this year type of move. We're a couple weeks away from playoffs. I'm happy with the moves CJ made late in the game last night moving Pevs to the Krejci line and putting Segs back with Bergeron and Marchand. That;s the way it should stay imo. In the offseason however going into next year, I wouldn't mind seeing it at all.
The guy has been above average defensively his entire career. You want to get rid of him now because he's a -7 on the season? Lidstrom was a minus player last year too, these things happen.
I know you're only upset that Krejci has a higher cap hit than Bergeron, for some reason this offends you. Not sure why exactly, but oh well. This team is better with Krejci at center, there is no denying that.
No. I'm upset because Krejci is not showing up each and every night ( regardless of the result on the scoring sheet ). I'm upset because when we need him to step up, he have a bad tendency to disappear and not only for one game. I'm upset because our coach always have to lit up a fire under his *** to get him going and finally i'm upset because shuffling the roster to get ONE player going is not, in the long term, a very good solution.
Some people aren't too bright and others are upset that he has a higher cap hit than Bergeron.
That's why.
Those are the only reasons ever.
Nevermind the "Krejci could be a great trade piece from a position of significant strength for the Bruins, who currently have 5 players that can play center in a top 9 role. Krejci could be used as a trade piece to bring back an elite winger that we've lacked or a very strong defender to take the load off of Chara."
Nope...that's just not too bright. The holier than thou "never trade krejci ever for anything" crowd is just as bad if not worse than the ones that would trade him for a broken stick.
It's like atheists thinking when they think you're stupid for believing in something, while they don't realize they also believe in something.
Nevermind the "Krejci could be a great trade piece from a position of significant strength for the Bruins, who currently have 5 players that can play center in a top 9 role. Krejci could be used as a trade piece to bring back an elite winger that we've lacked or a very strong defender to take the load off of Chara."
Nope...that's just not too bright.
The Bruins don't lack an elite winger or a #2 d-man though. But keep chasing that pot of gold.
