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03-29-2012, 11:59 PM
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Replacing Hodgson with Pahlsson just made the Canucks a much tougher team to play against in tight checking games... like the type that are played in the post-season.

And if the third line can chip in with timely offence while holding the other team's best line off the score sheet, so much the better.

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03-30-2012, 12:00 AM
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Great addition, and surprisingly great chemistry with Hansen and Higgins. The thing that really caught me off guard was his physical game. Definitely doesn't back away from the rough stuff.

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03-30-2012, 12:05 AM
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pleasantly surprised at his decent passing skills, obviously he has no shot though, but that's alright as long as he has someone like Higgins to pass to.
??? Really?

He has been reputed to have good shot in the past and showed it on this play:



And he has snapped off several quick shots in other games. The knock has been although he has a good shot he does not use it enough and looks to pass. Common among some Swedish forwards.

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I was shocked it only took 2 4th rounders. Expected him to cost at least a 2nd given what he should provide + inflated value of the deadline. No idea what CBJ was thinking...
2 4ths > 0 4ths.
The questions is what were other teams thinking. Gaustad for a 1st vs Pahlsson for a couple of 4ths?

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03-30-2012, 12:11 AM
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2 4ths > 0 4ths.
The questions is what were other teams thinking. Gaustad for a 1st vs Pahlsson for a couple of 4ths?
i honestly rather have Pahlsson then Gaustad

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Good players thrive on good teams and despite all the complaining your Vancouver Canucks are a very good team. We can thank AV and GMMG for that.

You guys are right. Paulsson has been a defensive stalwart for us. It's interesting. When your top 6 goal scoring dries up, there are two ways you can address it. You can add more goal scoring pieces (and this typically costs a lot to do) or... you can try to be better defensively and wait out your goal scoring woes.

Paulsson has been a very good addition to the club and has been playing some rather inspiring hockey with Higgins and Hansen. The three guys work VERY hard for the puck, they're tough as nails and they can hit the back of the net.

What more can you ask for from a 3rd line?

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03-30-2012, 12:14 AM
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i honestly rather have Pahlsson then Gaustad
I'd rather still have our first.

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Players are never exactly how you imagine them once they're in a Canuck uniform for real.

Most surprising thing about Pahlsson: his hockey smarts/positioning - totally adjusts to what/where his teammates are and in so doing, makes them better.

Brilliant acquisition by Gillis & Co.

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03-30-2012, 12:57 AM
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Players are never exactly how you imagine them once they're in a Canuck uniform for real.

Most surprising thing about Pahlsson: his hockey smarts/positioning - totally adjusts to what/where his teammates are and in so doing, makes them better.

Brilliant acquisition by Gillis & Co.
Input from the Sedins?

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Input from the Sedins?
Sedins retire to being GM and assistant GM.

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Sammy Pahlsson has been a very very undderatted aquisition for the team. sedins obviously had some input in order for mike gillis to snag sammy from cbj for 2 draft picks and a useless prospect. His defensive awareness and his work along the boards is just awesome. can't wait to see him rekindle his innner 2007 duck form and help guide higgins/hansen or whoever else is playing with sammy prevent goals and also contributing when the top 2 lines dry up at some point in the playoffs.

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03-30-2012, 01:51 AM
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if that third line can chip in at least 10 or 15 goals between them in the post-season while still checking the opposition's top lines everynight that would be awesome. sure losing cody hurts scoringwise but makes the better defensively equipped to playing tight checking games.

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03-30-2012, 01:52 AM
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??? Really?

He has been reputed to have good shot in the past and showed it on this play:
utube vid sp über sniper goal.


And he has snapped off several quick shots in other games. The knock has been although he has a good shot he does not use it enough and looks to pass. Common among some Swedish forwards.
Come on, one youtube vid' showing his one lonely Canuck goal?

SP has about 5 years left in his career, and he has never really shown this amazing shot consistently in about 11 NHL seasons, so far his best season was 11 goals in 82 games with a 116 shots.

He could sneak a few goals this post season with this team at best, but I doubt he will ever use this 'good shot' enough to be a 20 or even 15 goal scorer per season player, especially this far into his career.

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He is an incredibly smart hockey. I like him very much.

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Come on, one youtube vid' showing his one lonely Canuck goal?

SP has about 5 years left in his career, and he has never really shown this amazing shot consistently in about 11 NHL seasons, so far his best season was 11 goals in 82 games with a 116 shots.

He could sneak a few goals this post season with this team at best, but I doubt he will ever use this 'good shot' enough to be a 20 or even 15 goal scorer per season player, especially this far into his career.
But you were saying he obviously had no shot to speak of. I think Wetcoaster's post was a sufficient argument against that, regardless of the fact that Pahlsson hasn't produced very much in his career.

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But you were saying he obviously had no shot to speak of. I think Wetcoaster's post was a sufficient argument against that, regardless of the fact that Pahlsson hasn't produced very much in his career.
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03-30-2012, 04:33 AM
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I have been loving the addition of Pahlsson so far. He made a pass the other game that i wrongly assumed was from Henrik because it was so nice, i'm sure some of you remember the one. That game winning goal he scored was nice as well. And his defensive ability is as advertised. Certainly seems to make Nucks stronger all around defensively. He's also strong on the puck. Only remember a couple bad games from him, one of them was his first one. Other than that, he's been pretty solid.

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03-30-2012, 05:27 AM
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Quite honestly I've been astonished by how solid he has been in all aspects of his game. I was expecting him to be a smaller Manny from last year centering our fourth allowing Lappy to play the third line like the playoffs last year. He has been much more than that. I feel confident that this team can play all kinds of styles with this lineup and pahlsson has been a big part of that.

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03-30-2012, 05:55 AM
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For the sake of comparisons, I believe it's:


Hodgson, 7 points, -2 since the deadline.


Pahlsson 5 points, +2 since the deadline.

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Come on, one youtube vid' showing his one lonely Canuck goal?

SP has about 5 years left in his career, and he has never really shown this amazing shot consistently in about 11 NHL seasons, so far his best season was 11 goals in 82 games with a 116 shots.

He could sneak a few goals this post season with this team at best, but I doubt he will ever use this 'good shot' enough to be a 20 or even 15 goal scorer per season player, especially this far into his career.
11/116 = ~10%

Not a bad shooting %

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03-30-2012, 09:48 AM
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I've really liked Pahlsson for the Canucks. It certainly looks like he's more interested here than he was in Columbus, and who can blame him?

For that 3rd line to work in the playoffs, though, that third line has to score occasionally. They've been chipping in here and there, and that's what they'll need in the playoffs.

Everybody will reference the job he did on the 3rd line to help the Ducks win, but he also had 12 points in 21 games. That offence was every bit as critcial as his defensive work.

Let's all be honest - did anybody see team defence as a huge issue before the trade deadline? The Canucks were one of the best defensive teams in the League. Team defence was not an issue in last year's playoffs, either.

The third line needs to continue to score in the playoffs. That is every bit as important as shutting down the other team.

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I've really liked Pahlsson for the Canucks. It certainly looks like he's more interested here than he was in Columbus, and who can blame him?

For that 3rd line to work in the playoffs, though, that third line has to score occasionally. They've been chipping in here and there, and that's what they'll need in the playoffs.

Everybody will reference the job he did on the 3rd line to help the Ducks win, but he also had 12 points in 21 games. That offence was every bit as critcial as his defensive work.

Let's all be honest - did anybody see team defence as a huge issue before the trade deadline? The Canucks were one of the best defensive teams in the League. Team defence was not an issue in last year's playoffs, either.

The third line needs to continue to score in the playoffs. That is every bit as important as shutting down the other team.
Pahlsson essentially shifts the Canucks roster down by a line. If everyone is healthy, you can have a roster like this:

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Raymond
Higgins-Pahlsson-Hansen
Malhotra-Lapierre-Kassian

That 4th line is something AV will feel comfortable with in the playoffs, and there's a few players that can shift in after injuries and have AV still feel comfortable. Last year, for as well as the 3rd line performed, the 4th line was a weakness and was limited, putting pressure on the other lines for defensive duties. Our 5th line is better than our 4th line was last year.

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But you were saying he obviously had no shot to speak of. I think Wetcoaster's post was a sufficient argument against that, regardless of the fact that Pahlsson hasn't produced very much in his career.
So as wc was saying AV needs him to 'shoot more' so he can start piling in the goals then correct?

A lot of the shots he takes are mostly to the chest of goaltenders if you haven't noticed.

I'm not trying to make a big deal about this, I'm just saying he doesn't have this uber amazing shot wc think he has, even with that sufficient argument of a YOUTUBE video.

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Been saying since 2007, get pahlsson.

He was an elite shutdown center.

We haven't even seen his best yet, he usually cranks it up a notch in the playoffs. Give him an opposing top line center to check and he will shadow that player and make his life miserable.

At 34, past his peak, but still good enough to show us what a very good checking center looks like.

The second I heard we got him, I was extremely excited. Finally. Chicago gave up a top 4 dman in Wiz to get him in 2009. 4th rounders is a pretty cheap price for a top 9 forward with cup experience.

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We robbed Columbus when we picked up Påhlsson for scraps. This guy has been lights out on the back end and lately has shown some big play-making ability.

I had my doubts at first, but he has solidified our bottom 6 and PK. Hell, the Sedins swear by his
offensive capabilities - i'd try him in
the top 6 forwards too.


To Samuel Påhlsson, thanks, and bring it to the playoffs.
I love pahlsson but I don't think we robbed Columbus at all. Columbus is years away from being a contender and a shutdown player like pahlsson is only useful on a playoff team. Realistically by the time Columbus is ready to make a real push in the playoffs pahlsson will be to old to be an effective shutdown guy so it made sense to deal him for whatever they could get.

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