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A player who has been a healthy scratch and a big disappointment with a prospect who may or may not be a top 6 forward for one of the games most reliable and best players? If the Rangers can fit that cap wise I don't see how they say no to that.
Rangers can't really afford to give up Kreider with his low cap hit and our lack of LW depth. I'd offer Dubinsky+1st+Thomas or a similar prospect. I can understand the Flames wanting more though. Would you guys like that closer to the deadline opposed to the offseason?
Iginla is a great player, I love him. But he is getting old and Rangers already got Gaborik and Callahan on the RW so we are not good trading partners. Kreider won't get traded since he plays on a position we are lacking skilled players (LW). Best case scenario he is a 60+ point player in the future, worse case scenario he's a speedy checker with great size. And he fills a void on our LW. Therefore he's not getting traded unless he is a package sending a elite LW back to us. Add to boot his ELC will be important for a team like Rangers who likes to spend to the capfloor.
Why would anyone give much up for Iggy when his contract is over at the end of next season? If he had been traded even last year , a great haul could have been won by the Flames....not so much now...he is clearly declining and will be 35 soon.....
Absolutely right. Just a wishful Calgary fan wanting to see if his team can get a ton for an aging player who will be a UFA soon. Very little value in that.
Yes but he will be a free agent after next season...why would any team give up a lot for a guy they can get for free next year.....Calgary again made a huge mistake not trading him earlier......
because real life isn't nhl 12, and you can't just sim to next year? a full season of an elite player is valuable as hell. Not saying you should trade something stupidly significant, but a year of iginla for an elite team, especially one who will be under pressure to win a cup (and there is obviously gonna be some real good teams this year who don't win), is going to be worth "a lot"
Last edited by svat: 03-30-2012 at 02:00 AM.
Reason: you CAN'T sim to next year ;)
Honestly see him as more of a deadline prize than off-season trade bait. His 7mil salary is hard for most contenders to fit in. Not to mention those looking to add 7mil probably wants to deal for Nash first. By the time the Nash deal is done, odds are most UFAs are gone so reshaping the team to fit Iggy in will be hard.
Absolutely right. Just a wishful Calgary fan wanting to see if his team can get a ton for an aging player who will be a UFA soon. Very little value in that.
I know most people wouldnt give up anything for a guy that even at his ridiculous age of 35 is still scoring 30 goals a season.
Chelios was still in the NHL when he was 46, he wasnt as good of a player and I doubt Iginla will be in the NHL at 46 but people seem to think that Iginla, who is in great shape, will retire when he is 36. He still holds tremendous value, look at what Penner got a lot and he isnt very good, a first and a good prospect, Iginla should be getting a lot more than that.
Like Iginla's skill package, but at 34, gonna be 35 in a few months, he's not a guy that I would give up a major asset for at this stage of his career.
Probably get another one -two years at his current production level, just don't see it happeneing beyond that one or two years.
To me, the major asset is Kreider.
Dubinsky, a 2nd rounder and a prospect like Fogarty I could see.
Anything more than that at this stage of Iginla's career and I pass.
Good player, just doesn't make sense to overpay for a guy with 2-3 years left at most.
Iginla is a great player, I love him. But he is getting old and Rangers already got Gaborik and Callahan on the RW so we are not good trading partners. Kreider won't get traded since he plays on a position we are lacking skilled players (LW). Best case scenario he is a 60+ point player in the future, worse case scenario he's a speedy checker with great size. And he fills a void on our LW. Therefore he's not getting traded unless he is a package sending a elite LW back to us. Add to boot his ELC will be important for a team like Rangers who likes to spend to the capfloor.
I know most people wouldnt give up anything for a guy that even at his ridiculous age of 35 is still scoring 30 goals a season.
Chelios was still in the NHL when he was 46, he wasnt as good of a player and I doubt Iginla will be in the NHL at 46 but people seem to think that Iginla, who is in great shape, will retire when he is 36. He still holds tremendous value, look at what Penner got a lot and he isnt very good, a first and a good prospect, Iginla should be getting a lot more than that.
Deadline makes more sense. Flames owners eats about $5m in real hard cash by holding him until the deadline. Team eats 5m in cap. This frees up the buyer to spend that $5m on another player for the whole season or save up $20m deadline space. That is what teams are paying for at the deadline, effectively free cap and some other teams owner eating the $ from his pocket.
If people aren't going to want to trade the core of the final offer for Rick Nash for Patrick Sharp they aren't going to trade it for Jarome Iginla who is 34 years old.
If this was Ranger management of 14 years ago, yes, but not now.
Kreider is off limits unless a top flight YOUNG player is coming back
I like Kreider and all, but if any prospect is overvalued it's him. I think he'll end up being Glencross. A speedy 25-25 type guy who does the little things well and I get that those guys are valuable. That said, he's not a potential superstar IMO. Gaudreau put up basically the same numbers in his freshman year that Kreider did in his Jr. year.
