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03-28-2012, 09:32 PM
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Men amongst boys

Every year we hear of players in juniors that make it seem too easy, almost out of place compared to their peers. I remember a few years back Kulikov being hyped by his coach as being a men amonst boys. Today, read the same thing about Charlie Coyle. Which other prospects would you fit in that category this year?

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03-28-2012, 09:44 PM
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Brandon Saad has been a force in the playoffs this year. Cant give him any space because chances are hes going to make something happen.

Id say Dougie Hamilton also fits this category too. Totally dominant player all year.

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Etem?
Pretty good one to be honest. I was thinking of someone to post other than Emerson to eliminate bias. But he really does make the opposition look foolish every night.

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03-29-2012, 12:36 PM
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Etem.

Like I've said before. The kid is amazing, but the style he plays won't work against grown men. He'll have to adjust his game and learn to play against bigger, stronger competition before making the NHL.

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Aaron Ekblad. Born in 96, he's already 6'3, 210 pounds and has a maturity level way beyond his years. Turned 16 last month, but his awareness and calm demeanour on the ice are astounding. He's a great anchor for the Colts and put up very good stats in his first OHL season. He's drawn comparisons to Chris Pronger, and I don't necessarily disagree though he's not quite as nasty. Make no mistake, he uses his size and he will hit people, but I don't think he has the dirty side that Pronger does.

I think he definitely qualifies as a men amongst boys and will probably be the top defender in the OHL by the time his draft year comes along. If you've been living under a rock and haven't heard about him by now, start keeping an eye on him.

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03-29-2012, 02:03 PM
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Etem.

Like I've said before. The kid is amazing, but the style he plays won't work against grown men. He'll have to adjust his game and learn to play against bigger, stronger competition before making the NHL.
I find it so strange in the WHL, he can almost score with ease, but at the WJC he was invisible.

I would definately not call him a man among boys, like this thread would suggest...

that comments belongs more to players like Zack kassian, Kyle Clifford as past examples.

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Etem.

Like I've said before. The kid is amazing, but the style he plays won't work against grown men. He'll have to adjust his game and learn to play against bigger, stronger competition before making the NHL.
Would Baertschi qualify? I've seen him quite a few times (and try to catch Winterhawks games when I can) and it seems quite frequently that when he's on the ice, there is a noticable tilt in the direction of play. He's been mentioned a few times as a man playing in a boy's league by his coach and peers (Pickard)...though this could be more diplomatic showing than anything else. My viewing too is that he is, but I'd like to confirm that.

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^ Agreed ^
Bartschi's skill level is just insane, Portland has to be considered as a Memorial Cup favorite with him and Rattie at the top of their games.

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Saad just destroying Juniors. Kid is making the team next season.

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Aaron Ekblad. Born in 96, he's already 6'3, 210 pounds and has a maturity level way beyond his years. Turned 16 last month, but his awareness and calm demeanour on the ice are astounding. He's a great anchor for the Colts and put up very good stats in his first OHL season. He's drawn comparisons to Chris Pronger, and I don't necessarily disagree though he's not quite as nasty. Make no mistake, he uses his size and he will hit people, but I don't think he has the dirty side that Pronger does.

I think he definitely qualifies as a men amongst boys and will probably be the top defender in the OHL by the time his draft year comes along. If you've been living under a rock and haven't heard about him by now, start keeping an eye on him.
At 16 years old I don't think anybody has much of a nasty streak. He may develop it just yet.

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Would Baertschi qualify? I've seen him quite a few times (and try to catch Winterhawks games when I can) and it seems quite frequently that when he's on the ice, there is a noticable tilt in the direction of play. He's been mentioned a few times as a man playing in a boy's league by his coach and peers (Pickard)...though this could be more diplomatic showing than anything else. My viewing too is that he is, but I'd like to confirm that.
Doesn't have that physical dominance. Would be curious to see him play a full out season in WHL as I think he would have done better then 2 ppg average. Between this year and his showing against NHL level competition it's a real shame that he's in the WHL right now, clearly doesn't belong there.

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At 16 years old I don't think anybody has much of a nasty streak. He may develop it just yet.
Im not sure - I could be wrong but I thought Pronger had that quality long before he was drafted, some players just have that chip on their shoulder and when they step on the ice everyone on the other team is an enemy.

Again, could be wrong, and we have seen it develop, but I think its more likely it doesnt develop than it does.

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Im not sure - I could be wrong but I thought Pronger had that quality long before he was drafted, some players just have that chip on their shoulder and when they step on the ice everyone on the other team is an enemy.

Again, could be wrong, and we have seen it develop, but I think its more likely it doesnt develop than it does.
I agree with what you're saying but up until now Ekblad has been playing in leagues where fighting gets you suspended. I don't think he ever will be quite as mean, but even Tyler Myers is starting to get a little chippy. When you play the dominant role it often comes naturally as a part of the job.

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I agree with what you're saying but up until now Ekblad has been playing in leagues where fighting gets you suspended. I don't think he ever will be quite as mean, but even Tyler Myers is starting to get a little chippy. When you play the dominant role it often comes naturally as a part of the job.
Thats true too... I forget they dont allow it when you are younger.

Well, as you say he has lots of time to develop it, if it is there.

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Just a quick question, didn't want to start a new thread and I saw someone mentioned Ekblad.

Is he also draft eligible next year in the MacKinnon draft or is he only eligible the following year

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Just a quick question, didn't want to start a new thread and I saw someone mentioned Ekblad.

Is he also draft eligible next year in the MacKinnon draft or is he only eligible the following year
Year after MacKinnon if I remember correctly.

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Physically David Broll is a man amongst boys when you watch him out there.

His skills def. need to improve though.

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I find it so strange in the WHL, he can almost score with ease, but at the WJC he was invisible.

I would definately not call him a man among boys, like this thread would suggest...

that comments belongs more to players like Zack kassian, Kyle Clifford as past examples.
Seems like your basing that claim on the WJC alone. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but Etem only had a few days to try to get used to different teammates, he's been playing with this group (for the most part) for years and is now comfortable.

WJC is a bad example for lots of players who went on to have great careers.

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Every year we hear of players in juniors that make it seem too easy, almost out of place compared to their peers. I remember a few years back Kulikov being hyped by his coach as being a men amonst boys. Today, read the same thing about Charlie Coyle. Which other prospects would you fit in that category this year?
Coyle looks like a man amongst boys because he was used to playing against Men (even if you can argue those men weren't at the highest level).

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Seems like your basing that claim on the WJC alone. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but Etem only had a few days to try to get used to different teammates, he's been playing with this group (for the most part) for years and is now comfortable.

WJC is a bad example for lots of players who went on to have great careers.
So did everyone else...? That's a horrible excuse.

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