I think many people here underestimate Khudobins abilities. Sure, Rask is our goalie future right now. But Thomas still has some gas left in the tank, Khudobin's pretty decent and we'd have a certain amount of time to find some new goalie future... and just imagine a line with Seguin and Yakupov. This would probably be a wet dream for most teams in NHL, even Pittsburgh with a healthy Crosbaby.
If we had the chance to do it, even for Rask + Krejci, I'd do it. I'd even throw in some free garlic nuts as well.
Tuukka Rask or any other goaltender in this league will never be moved for a 1st overall pick.
Goalies are just not worth a lot.
Totally disagree with all due respect, bonafide #1 goalies or very close to bonafide/legit #1's are both rare and exceptionally valuable which is the exact reason we rarely see a big name goalie get traded, exceptionally difficult to replace.
Totally disagree with all due respect, bonafide #1 goalies or very close to bonafide/legit #1's are both rare and exceptionally valuable which is the exact reason we rarely see a big name goalie get traded, exceptionally difficult to replace.
This is very true, the biggest goalie name traded since the cap was Jaro Halak or Luongo...Halak's price was low because Montreal's hands were tied and Luongo's return was pretty good at the time(although Bryan Allen and Alex Auld never panned out)....we've yet to see a legit #1 starting goalie traded, but we did see Varlamov bring in a haul and a half.
Totally disagree with all due respect, bonafide #1 goalies or very close to bonafide/legit #1's are both rare and exceptionally valuable which is the exact reason we rarely see a big name goalie get traded, exceptionally difficult to replace.
I'm curious. Who would you consider to be a bonafide/legit #1 goaltender?
This is very true, the biggest goalie name traded since the cap was Jaro Halak or Luongo...Halak's price was low because Montreal's hands were tied and Luongo's return was pretty good at the time(although Bryan Allen and Alex Auld never panned out)....we've yet to see a legit #1 starting goalie traded, but we did see Varlamov bring in a haul and a half.
Do you you think it's because they're had to come by?
I think many people here underestimate Khudobins abilities. Sure, Rask is our goalie future right now. But Thomas still has some gas left in the tank, Khudobin's pretty decent and we'd have a certain amount of time to find some new goalie future... and just imagine a line with Seguin and Yakupov. This would probably be a wet dream for most teams in NHL, even Pittsburgh with a healthy Crosbaby.
If we had the chance to do it, even for Rask + Krejci, I'd do it. I'd even throw in some free garlic nuts as well.
I'm with you 100%. Khudobin is a serviceable back up and with the system we play it would protect a little bit as well. You get very few chances at very special talent and if you can do it you do it. Losing Krejci would hurt and no one doubts that but at the end of the day we'd be moving our current back up goalie (although a great one) and our 1b centre. I'd love to keep both of them but wouldn't cry foul on a gamble like this. The irony of having two top two pics from the last 3 drafts would also just be insane considering we've won a cup in the middle of the two drafts and will be competing for another one this year. It would also actually save us in the ball park of Krejci full cap hit. Rask's raise should about wash out Yakupov's entry level salary. We'd actually have enough money to sign Parise.
I'm curious. Who would you consider to be a bonafide/legit #1 goaltender?
I will respond by division as to which teams I view as lacking a true #1, and I will let you fill in the blanks.
Eastern Conference
Islanders
Panthers
Flyers
Caps
Leafs
Sens
Jets (really on fence with this one)
Tampa
Western Conference
Hawks
Wings
Ducks
Sharks
Avs
Yotes
Stars (another on the fence)
Oilers
Jackets
That's as far as my brain takes me now.
Not one of those teams has a goalie I would feel could come close to upseeding either Timmy (proven and legit) and/or Rask who is, along with Schneider about as close to being ready as anyone to assume a larger role.
Goaltender is the most important position on the team. They play the entire game and have the most impact on the outcome. I think teams are starting to come around to realizing this. The issue is evaluating YOUNG goalies. Many of the best goalies have taken time to become the dominant forces of their late 20's early 30's.
To get Yakupov, I may do it and test our luck in the FA. However, I really feel CBJ would be stupid to trade their 1st overall. It's an important building block to their franchise.
S. Mason would look a lot better without all that garbage in front of him. Turn that pick into some good young defenders and CBJ won't need a new goalie.
Problem in Columbus is they are always trying to rebuild the team in one move. That's not how it works.
No offense to any Russians on here, but with all the guys bolting for the KHL, absolutely no chance in hell I'm taking a chance with a first round pick on one, nevermind the first overall.
No offense to any Russians on here, but with all the guys bolting for the KHL, absolutely no chance in hell I'm taking a chance with a first round pick on one, nevermind the first overall.
Honestly, any GM who passes on Yakupov should be fired on the spot. Yakupov spent the last two seasons playing for Sarina of the OHL. He wouldn't be there if he wasn't committed to playing in NA.
No offense to any Russians on here, but with all the guys bolting for the KHL, absolutely no chance in hell I'm taking a chance with a first round pick on one, nevermind the first overall.
Its not like we or anyone would be drafting him directly from Russia
If they can get a solid offer for the #1, then a separate offer for nash, they could get back on track after getting robbed on the first carter deal. I doubt the bruins are a match. If they do move a goalie, it's gotta be thomas.
No offense to any Russians on here, but with all the guys bolting for the KHL, absolutely no chance in hell I'm taking a chance with a first round pick on one, nevermind the first overall.
Just me, but I'd never draft a goalie in the first round.
I know you qualified your statement as your own personal preference, but Toronto did just that and now we're talking about trading the fruits of that pick to Columbus in a fantasy scenario for a potential generational talent.
Btw, I would make this trade but Rask alone is just not enough.
I'd do Rask and Krejci and our first for first over all and mason?
Other than that I don't see this being a road to go down.
I wouldn't break up this championship team, unless the reward was huge for us...
I sure do like the Parise dream though....
It's tempting for sure. It has taken the Bruins 2-3 years to groom Tuukka at the NHL level (then a good 2 in the minors). Granted we hopefully have Thomas for at least 1 and then who knows how many years after that but I'm not sure if Khudobin would be ready after that.
If there is a single doubt about Yakupov I'm not sure if it'd be worth it. Like another poster said, goaltending can carry a team. Stamkos might score 60 and the Lightning won't make the playoffs because they have no goaltending/defense. I'm not sure I'd be willing to part with either goalie.
Now the guys in management clearly have a better read on their players' intentions: ex. Thomas' interest in splitting time after this year or in the future, Rask's desire to be #1 now or split for a season etc. But from being an outsider I'd consider it but I'd want to make sure that it'd be worth it.
