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Rask for #1 pick this year (assuming CLB wins lottery)

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03-30-2012, 12:42 PM
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Seguin is the only asset on the Bruins worth trading a #1 overall pick for. And since the Bruins have zero goalie prospects who are any where close to being NHL ready, any Rask trade rumours make absolutely no sense.

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03-30-2012, 12:43 PM
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Seguin is the only asset on the Bruins worth trading a #1 overall pick for. And since the Bruins have zero goalie prospects who are any where close to being NHL ready, any Rask trade rumours make absolutely no sense.
Anton Khudobin doesn't suck.

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03-30-2012, 12:47 PM
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Schneider + van 1st for clb 1st.


Schneider is a pretty loyal guy. Im sure if he is given the starting job, he'll extend for sure. 1st evens out the trade a little and gives CLB a back up asset if Schneider doesn't re-sign.

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Schneider + van 1st for clb 1st.


Schneider is a pretty loyal guy. Im sure if he is given the starting job, he'll extend for sure. 1st evens out the trade a little and gives CLB a back up asset if Schneider doesn't re-sign.
Schneider and VAN 1st is not enough for CBJ 1st; I dont care what anyone says but Yak will be just as good as previous 1st round picks.

So would teams take Scchneider and Vans 1st for Hall, RNH, Tavares or Stamkos.

I wouldnt.

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03-30-2012, 12:52 PM
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I did not come up with this trade proposal nor am i pushing for it


Someone on the Bruins board said there was a rumor of this, i don't know if it will ever amount to anything, but lets discuss.

I think personally it would have to be Rask + for the #1 pick (ex: Rask + Krejci or Dougie Hamilton)

If it did happen the Bruins would absolutely select Yakupov.

A big factor in this is that Columbus doent have good luck drafting Russians (Filatov)


so what do you think? is there any validity to this? would it make sense for either side?

I know Columbus really wants a young #1 goaltender, but i dont think they pass on drafting Yakupov.

As a Bruins fan, i would trade Tuukka for the #1, but not Tuukka + for it
Counter

To Boston

Columbus 1st

To Columbus

Seguin


Columbus will find a goalie elsewhere.

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03-30-2012, 01:02 PM
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To Boston

Columbus 1st

To Columbus

Seguin


Columbus will find a goalie elsewhere.
Makes little sense for either team to do. In fact that first overall makes little sense to Boston period as Boston is competing now and already have some solid forward youth coming up through the organization now in guys like Caron, Knight, Spooner and Koklachev.

Chances are if they were sending Rask to Columbus they would be talking about some kind of Nash/Rask package.

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03-30-2012, 01:05 PM
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Alright I know im probably going to get flamed like crazy for this, but heres my WAY outside the box proposal.

To Bruins
Nash
#1

To Jackets
Rask
Seguin
Boston #1

Thoughts? I understand if Bruins fans wouldnt want Nash as well haha.

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Alright I know im probably going to get flamed like crazy for this, but heres my WAY outside the box proposal.

To Bruins
Nash
#1

To Jackets
Rask
Seguin
Boston #1

Thoughts? I understand if Bruins fans wouldnt want Nash as well haha.
No. I dont trade Seguin for Nash,, 1 for 1. Leave Seguin & Nash out of the deal.

To BOS:
#1 overall
Mason

To CBS:
Rask
Bos 1st
Caron

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03-30-2012, 01:12 PM
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There's not a goalie in the league I trade the #1 pick for.

Let alone backups on really strong teams. Rask's value shouldn't be any higher then Halak's was. Halak got to shine on a mediocre team. Says more to me then Rask playing well on one of the top teams in the league.

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03-30-2012, 01:14 PM
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Anton Khudobin doesn't suck.
If he is NHL ready, why did the Bruins sign Turco as Thomas's backup until Rask is healthy?

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03-30-2012, 01:14 PM
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Would be an awful idea for Columbus. Rask isn't going to suddenly turn them into a playoff team.

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03-30-2012, 01:15 PM
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If he is NHL ready, why did the Bruins sign Turco as Thomas's backup until Rask is healthy?
He was injured.

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If he is NHL ready, why did the Bruins sign Turco as Thomas's backup until Rask is healthy?
hes been hurt

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03-30-2012, 01:29 PM
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Rask is a very good young goalie with tons of potential, but he has not proven enough to be worth Columbus giving up the #1 overall pick for, at this point. He has been lucky enough to play on one of the stronger teams in the league (it soooo sickens me to say that about the Bruins...sigh...), so it is hard to really evaluate if he is good enough to be worth the #1 overall on his own.

Columbus says "no".

As far as the Nash + #1 for Rask, Seguin, and Bos !st, the value could be seen as close, but the realities is that Boston doesn't need Nash enough to give up a player who could have gone #1 two years ago an has already developed,a potential #1 goalie,and a 1st round pick, for a 1st overall that MIGHT develop into what Seguin IS, and Nash. Nash is not a need player for the Bruins and is too expensive for them, especially if they are not sending salary back to Columbus.

So, Boston says "no" to this one.

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03-30-2012, 01:48 PM
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Columbus should just keep the #1 and sign Josh Harding.

Harding + Yakupov >> Rask alone.

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Quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.... And I frequent the Leaf Forum.... It would cost Rask +++ for CBJ first overall. Probably you're two best prospects.

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No chance. Are people forgetting Columbus has another 1st round pick? They can draft Yakupov and then pick up either Vasilevski or Subban later in the 1st round.

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03-30-2012, 03:03 PM
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Anton Khudobin doesn't suck.
He's also 26 and has played like 4 NHL games. He's not exactly a bluechip prospect at this point.

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Did you personally scout all these players before they entered the NHL?
Of course not, no need to be ignorant.

This is opinion - so what's yours? Of the last 10 1st overall picks, how many do you think Yakupov will surpass in his stardom?

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If there's anything Yakupov does not have a dearth of, it's pure talent.

I'm not even really sure what your statement is based on:

2011 - RNH (1.53 PPG)
2010 - Hall (1.85 PPG)
2009 - Tavares (1.86 PPG)
2008 - Stamkos (1.72 PPG)
2005- Crosby (2.70 PPG)
2002 - Nash (1.33 PPG)

Nail Yakupov- 1.64 PPG
What an obscure measurement. They didn't all play in the same junior league, or for the same calibre junior team, or even against the same calibre juniors.


I'm basing my statement on his overall talent, in what I see now in comparison to what I've seen with other 1st overall picks in the past. It's my opinion that Yakupov is at or near the very bottom of the list in terms of the last 10 1st overall picks.

He's also #1 because he IS good, the top talent in this draft (or SHOULD be, they are all prospects until they actually play in the big league). Just because he is talented, doesn't discredit the idea that the last 10 1sts were and are BIGGER superstars / superstars in the making.

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03-30-2012, 04:12 PM
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Washington traded Varlamov to Colorado for their 1st. Don't mean to quibble. But, most think Rask is a better prospect than Varlamov. Colorado was coming off picking 2nd. Colorado figured correctly that the pick would be higher at the end of the year. Right now it's 12 or 13th. Tied with Washington. Doesn't seem too far fetched if Boston gives up their 1st too. Rask to move up from 23-28. I think B's win 1st round and lose in the next round or conf. finals.

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Nash + 1st for top-6 forward + Rask + Hamilton is the closest you can get value wise. Still dont think Bruins move Rask without a legit backup nipping at his heels.

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Columbus should just keep the #1 and sign Josh Harding.

Harding + Yakupov >> Rask alone.
When Howson traded Carter to L.A. for Johnson and a 1st rather than Johnson and Bernier, that indicated to me that Howson thought he could resolve the goaltending position elsewhere, such as the UFA (or RFA) market.

The one major selling point that Columbus can offer a guy like Harding is that he will at last be a starting NHL goalie rather than a backup. As a fall-back plan they could even offer a short-term deal in case there is any skepticism about Columbus. Sign the goalie, let him establish himself as a starter, and if Columbus is still a disaster (which they might not be) they can leave after a short-term deal expires.

Tampa might have first dibs on the most desirable UFA goalies, but there should still be something decent left for Columbus without having to trade any assets, especially the #1 overall.

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There's not a goalie in the league I trade the #1 pick for.

Let alone backups on really strong teams. Rask's value shouldn't be any higher then Halak's was. Halak got to shine on a mediocre team. Says more to me then Rask playing well on one of the top teams in the league.
Rask value would be higher than what Halak got, there is a reason why Montreal traded Halak over Price. Also, why would Boston even think about trading Rask they need him, trading Rask will just put Boston is a spot in a year or 2 to have to give assets up to get a goalie, why not just keep the elite skilled young goalie they have.

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Rask + Krejci for CBJ 1st+ seems like an interesting basis. Not sure what the + would be, but I think there's good value for both sides. It would entirely depend on Rask being signed for some years, and Boston feeling like Thomas will last them long enough to find another successor in net.

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