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Rask for #1 pick this year (assuming CLB wins lottery)
When Howson traded Carter to L.A. for Johnson and a 1st rather than Johnson and Bernier, that indicated to me that Howson thought he could resolve the goaltending position elsewhere, such as the UFA (or RFA) market.
The one major selling point that Columbus can offer a guy like Harding is that he will at last be a starting NHL goalie rather than a backup. As a fall-back plan they could even offer a short-term deal in case there is any skepticism about Columbus. Sign the goalie, let him establish himself as a starter, and if Columbus is still a disaster (which they might not be) they can leave after a short-term deal expires.
Tampa might have first dibs on the most desirable UFA goalies, but there should still be something decent left for Columbus without having to trade any assets, especially the #1 overall.
It's said CBJ aren't high on Bernier and are gearing up to go after Schneider against TBL and VAN
Would Boston draft Yakupov? Maybe the trade makes more sense if Columbus loses the Lottery. Not a lot of defense prospects other than Dougie. Would B's draft Murray if they pick second?
Would Boston draft Yakupov? Maybe the trade makes more sense if Columbus loses the Lottery. Not a lot of defense prospects other than Dougie. Would B's draft Murray if they pick second?
Columbus is clearly looking for top pairing defense as well as goaltending. The rumors are that they didn't trade Nash because they required McDonagh or Del Zotto from the Rangers plus three more 1st equivalents and similar packages from any other team. If they lose the lottery, I expect Howson to look hard at Murray or perhaps trade down 1-2 slots to take Murray if he can.
Columbus is clearly looking for top pairing defense as well as goaltending. The rumors are that they didn't trade Nash because they required McDonagh or Del Zotto from the Rangers plus three more 1st equivalents and similar packages from any other team. If they lose the lottery, I expect Howson to look hard at Murray or perhaps trade down 1-2 slots to take Murray if he can.
Do you think Howson is looking at trading Nash and that #1 pick to bring in top end goaltending, young top 6 player, young top 4 top D man. So lets say Howson bring back Del Zotto, Kreider, Dub, Schnieder/Rask and 2 late firsts for the 1st overall and Nash would Jacket fans be pissed or happy?
What an obscure measurement. They didn't all play in the same junior league, or for the same calibre junior team, or even against the same calibre juniors.
I'm basing my statement on his overall talent, in what I see now in comparison to what I've seen with other 1st overall picks in the past. It's my opinion that Yakupov is at or near the very bottom of the list in terms of the last 10 1st overall picks.
He's also #1 because he IS good, the top talent in this draft (or SHOULD be, they are all prospects until they actually play in the big league). Just because he is talented, doesn't discredit the idea that the last 10 1sts were and are BIGGER superstars / superstars in the making.
Yakupov was the consensus before he stepped foot on the ice.
Better prospect than Hall, RNH coming into the draft. Probably somewhere between Stamkos and Tavares as far as hype level. 100pts as a rookie in the OHL is an outstanding accomplishment. You word it as worst in over a decade, but he's easily the best since Stamkos, probably as good a prospect as him.
Do you think Howson is looking at trading Nash and that #1 pick to bring in top end goaltending, young top 6 player, young top 4 top D man. So lets say Howson bring back Del Zotto, Kreider, Dub, Schnieder/Rask and 2 late firsts for the 1st overall and Nash would Jacket fans be pissed or happy?
Probably unhappy. For Nash Howson will not take less than:
Del Zotto, Kreider, Dubinsky and a late 1st
Howson and Craig Patrick are not backing down. Apparently they have said they will keep Nash unless they get a comparable package.
That means he would be taking
Schneider/Rask and a late 1st for Yakupov. It's not enough, this is a potential franchise player.
I think Rask would be a nice fit for Columbus. Their defense, when healthy, is dramatically better (JJ, Wiz, Tyutin, Nikitin, Methot, Moore) but we would still be looking to upgrade. With Rask as a backstop I think this team is better. However, that being said, I don't see the #1 for Rask as the basis of a deal. If he's part of it, great. I would think it's more likely that Columbus trades down a couple slots (remaining in top 5) and picks up another asset that can play.
There is also this Nash guy and if he were moved for something like Hamilton, Rask, 1st and a Spooner (?) I think I would really like that....
No reason for Boston to make this move and it could end up backfiring on them. It's not as if the Bruins lack offensive prospects or are having problems scoring (other than on the power play since Savard went down). With Thomas turning 38 in 2 weeks, moving Rask for additional offense is a no-go.
Probably unhappy. For Nash Howson will not take less than:
Del Zotto, Kreider, Dubinsky and a late 1st
Howson and Craig Patrick are not backing down. Apparently they have said they will keep Nash unless they get a comparable package.
That means he would be taking
Schneider/Rask and a late 1st for Yakupov. It's not enough, this is a potential franchise player.
Schneider and Rask are franchise goalie tho and proven in the NHL. Bruins have no need to trade Rask, Canucks if they move Schneider would have a lot of teams interest and CBJ only assets that tempt Vancouver is their 1st or Johansen, nothing else they could really offer us. CBJ have the 2nd worst GA in the NHL Schneider or Rask fix that by a lot, lets also add in Vancouver would much rather send Schenider to the East and see him once a season than seeing him 4 times or possibly in the playoffs, be a ****** nightmare to run into Schneider into the playoffs in the 1st round only to get knock out by him and because of this CBJ would really have to put the best deal on the table and I only see Johansen or your 1st getting it done. I will punch my TV if we send Schneider to CBJ for anything less, goalies like him haunt teams that's why teams send them to the other conference. I really don't see Boston trading Rask either as they need him, it would require a bigger payment than Schneider, imo as Rask has a clear future in Boston and Boston is young and a top team, as much as I hate to say that.
I think Rask would be a nice fit for Columbus. Their defense, when healthy, is dramatically better (JJ, Wiz, Tyutin, Nikitin, Methot, Moore) but we would still be looking to upgrade. With Rask as a backstop I think this team is better. However, that being said, I don't see the #1 for Rask as the basis of a deal. If he's part of it, great. I would think it's more likely that Columbus trades down a couple slots (remaining in top 5) and picks up another asset that can play.
There is also this Nash guy and if he were moved for something like Hamilton, Rask, 1st and a Spooner (?) I think I would really like that....
No way would Boston do that trade, their in no need to trade all that and then Boston is shopping for a goalie. Boston has players they'll need to re-sign soon too so I'm not sure they'd want to risk losing all of that possibly Lucic due to running out of money with Nash there. Although I'd be a fan if they trade Rask to you guys and we sell them on a Schneider plus for Lucic I better put this here so Bruin fans know I'm joking.
Boston has the depth to offer a real quantity for quality deal which just may tempt colombus away from a top tier player. rask hamilton and a very late first could get seguin a player every bit as talented to play with
Boston has the depth to offer a real quantity for quality deal which just may tempt colombus away from a top tier player. rask hamilton and a very late first could get seguin a player every bit as talented to play with
Who is going to play goal for Boston? Mason? the guy CBJ is badly trying to replace. Why not make a run for Parise for a highly skilled winger to play with Seguin.
I think Rask would be a nice fit for Columbus. Their defense, when healthy, is dramatically better (JJ, Wiz, Tyutin, Nikitin, Methot, Moore) but we would still be looking to upgrade. With Rask as a backstop I think this team is better. However, that being said, I don't see the #1 for Rask as the basis of a deal. If he's part of it, great. I would think it's more likely that Columbus trades down a couple slots (remaining in top 5) and picks up another asset that can play.
There is also this Nash guy and if he were moved for something like Hamilton, Rask, 1st and a Spooner (?) I think I would really like that....
as has been suggested would a Rask + Krejci package be enough for the #1. You get your goalie of the future and finally a proper playmaking centre for Nash. Would it be enough to get Nash interested in sticking around? Just curious how a CLB fan would feel about it.
Boston's GM Peter Chiarelli has stated many times that Tuukka Rask is Boston's Future #1 goalie. since Tim Thomas is 38 and prob will retire in a couple of years I can't see Boston trading Tuukka for a unproven player which will probably be great but it will take him a few years to develop
Rask alone couldn't get you the #1 pick of this draft...
Completely over rated draft year, .. YES THEY COULD!
Yakupov, and the other Russians aren't tavares/crpsby etc.. This is an insanely weak draft for forwards.. I have no idea why Yakupov Gal etc are so highly rated, I've seen them all in games and they are pretty on the ice but get blown off the puck like nobodies business (SEE FILATOV), these are not high end NHL'ers, granted there are some serious d-men in the draft and Forsberg.. but apart from that.. Weakest draft in a long time..
Boston's GM Peter Chiarelli has stated many times that Tuukka Rask is Boston's Future #1 goalie. since Tim Thomas is 38 and prob will retire in a couple of years I can't see Boston trading Tuukka for a unproven player which will probably be great but it will take him a few years to develop
How long can you play second fiddle knowing you're a #1 in the league..
He's an RFA next year and can demand enough money to screw the Bruins into a trade..
I could see CBJ trading that pick, and I could see a young goalie being involved. But Rask alone isnt enough IMO.
I find it funny that a Hab fan is encouraging Boston to overpay for a first over all, Gee could he possibility be trying to trick Boston into tearing there team apart.
How long can you play second fiddle knowing you're a #1 in the league..
He's an RFA next year and can demand enough money to screw the Bruins into a trade..
Peter Chiarelli has made it clear that he has full intentions to resign Rask, Rask is making $1,250,000 next season Boston has Projected Cap Space of $6,155,357. As for Tuukka Rask demand enough money to screw the Bruins into a trade.. well I guess that is just hopfull thinking on your part, If necessary Peter Chiarelli will make room. Boston has a Good young Core Seguin 20, Bergeron 26, Rask 26, Hamilton 18, Lucic 23, Marchard 23. Krejci 25,
Last edited by jerrywally23*: 03-30-2012 at 08:36 PM.
It's such a crap shoot with goalies. Look no further than Mason. Calder one year, the next two complete garbage. Another example is Brian Elliot this year. No one predicted him as a potential Viezna candidate. Columbus needs to just hold onto their picks, try to find an NHL caliber goalie and improve their D corps.
