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Rask for #1 pick this year (assuming CLB wins lottery)

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03-31-2012, 08:35 AM
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Rask for Yakupov? lol

Rask has not even carried the Bruins a full season and/or in the playoffs yet.

Even if he did 1st overall is a ridiculous price to pay for any goaltender other than Dominic Hasek in his prime.

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03-31-2012, 11:33 AM
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It would take more than Rask to get the 1st over all, thing Rask, Hamilton and BOS 1st.
Hamilton is worth more than the first
rask is worth close to the first

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Hamilton is worth more than the first
rask is worth close to the first
Some people tend to post and look like homers. Hamilton isn't a franchise dman - maybe top pairing, but not a franchise dman (Weber, Lindstrom, Pie, Doughty, Karlson). Likely a step below.

The first overall this year is a franchise player.

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03-31-2012, 12:42 PM
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Some people tend to post and look like homers. Hamilton isn't a franchise dman - maybe top pairing, but not a franchise dman (Weber, Lindstrom, Pie, Doughty, Karlson). Likely a step below.

The first overall this year is a franchise player.
Hamilton isn't even in the NHL this year so to suggest he is or will be anything close to a franchise damn or even a top pairing guy is pure speculation.

I would say Yakupov despite his injuries this year is more highly thought of than RNH was last year at this time and Hamilton went #9 last year.

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Some people tend to post and look like homers. Hamilton isn't a franchise dman - maybe top pairing, but not a franchise dman (Weber, Lindstrom, Pie, Doughty, Karlson). Likely a step below.

The first overall this year is a franchise player.
No homer. I am a vancouver fan. If I was boston I would keep hamilton over the first. Just my opinion entitled to it.

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03-31-2012, 01:44 PM
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I would think the price would be closer to

Rask and Hamilton

I would think about it from both sides.
Columbus could also move Nash for another blue-chip d-man plus a couple other pieces and start anew with an incredibly solid back-line and build from the net out - suck one more year and get another impact forward next draft.

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If it's Scott Howson who would make this deal(highly highly unlikely) he would be on Mike Milbury's level. That's how bad this is. Also can guarantee himself that this is his last job in an NHL office.
I don't know. He might be able to find a job sweeping floors. Even that would be a stretch.

I think the return for the pick is AT LEAST a young Top 6 forward, a prospect and a pick.

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03-31-2012, 03:10 PM
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2 ideas

Nash for seguin straight up

1st overall and mason for Schneider, van 1st and Raymond, both of whom need to agree to at least 4 year contracts

Move seguin back to the middle, cbj would have a pretty good top 6 and solid goalie. they could be a playoff team next year.

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Nash for seguin straight up

1st overall and mason for Schneider, van 1st and Raymond, both of whom need to agree to at least 4 year contracts

Move seguin back to the middle, cbj would have a pretty good top 6 and solid goalie. they could be a playoff team next year.
No....

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Some people tend to post and look like homers. Hamilton isn't a franchise dman - maybe top pairing, but not a franchise dman (Weber, Lindstrom, Pie, Doughty, Karlson). Likely a step below.

The first overall this year is a franchise player.
Boston will not trade Sequin or Hamilton. Sequin is already the Bruins best offensive player and Hamilton is tearing up the minors. He'd be higher than 9 if they redrafted. Even if he isnt franchise #1A, he is still the Bruins best D prospect by a wide margin.

Rask and Krecji are the Bruins best trade assets if the return improves the team.

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Rask + Seidenberg would probably do it from a Columbus perspective. Not so from a Boston one though I think, thoughts?

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I think Boston's forgetting that goalies carry very little value.

Getting the #1 overall pick would require Rask+ going back to Columbus.

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Would be stupid for the Bruins to move Rask at this point. Move Thomas for less and keep Rask.

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Bad trade rumor is bad, most likely wishful thinking

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Rask + Seidenberg would probably do it from a Columbus perspective. Not so from a Boston one though I think, thoughts?
I would not trade a 1st overall pick for that

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I think Boston's forgetting that goalies carry very little value.

Getting the #1 overall pick would require Rask+ going back to Columbus.
Apparently in the new HFBoards vision for NHL trade value promising young backup goalies are worth a lottery pick + a blue chip prospect. The overvaluing of unproven net minders is getting rather absurd.

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03-31-2012, 07:04 PM
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Don't kid yourself. Players care about their careers and every back up wants to start and wants to start NOW. The smart ones will say the right things in interviews, but they want to start.
I agree with you, they also understand that their next start can be their last one. They need security in a field where the length of career is uncertain.

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Raks is a good young goalie but he ain't getting the bruins a 1st overall pick

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Highly doubt Rask will be available as he is a fantastic goalie and most likely be Boston's #1 in the near future.

IF he is available, he is 100% hands down by far the very best goalie available! He is a landslide better than the other backup goalie discussed in here for a 1st. Rask WILL return a 1st for sure.


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Hamilton is worth more than the first
rask is worth close to the first
Not sure Rask will land the #1 overall pick, but he is awesome so you never know.

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as a bruin fan.. rask is awesome

as a realist... any talk that he is worth the first overall is absolutely crazy

but... i could see columbus willing to deal the first overall. now as for why boston would want it when they are trying to win cups now??? not sure...

as for who would be a more realistic trade partner for columbus for the first? why not do something with montreal now that they are in complete rebuild mold? subban would probably do alot better in a non-traditional market where he wouldnt be under the microscope and price might easily do better in such a market too?

a good young goalie that could win games by himself and a good young dman that can be a 22-24min per night top pairing guy is probably roughly what the first overall would be worth at a minimum... but rask/hamilton are not worth what price/subban would be. columbus will find a much better offer for the first overall if they do decide to deal it.

crazy rumor... not realistic value wise... and actually doesnt make sense for a win-now cup contender to make this type of move either

boston's cap room up front is already committed on the books for the forseeable future with the current core of the team all of whom are young and will be around for 5-6 years and already comprise a scoring nucleus that is able to rank in the top 5 best offenses around. with seguin maturing, this team is loaded up front with deep affordable talent.

having a young affordable goalie to take over from thomas and a good affordable young dman to take over from chara in a couple years is the team's biggest needs for the future. not a flashy smallish forward that will have to battle bergeron/seguin/lucic/krecji/marchand/spooner and company for limited icetime

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04-01-2012, 06:39 AM
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trading Rask is a really huge step back for the Bruins since they don't have have any good goalies in Providence or the minors. Rask must be Awesome cause I keep seeing trade proposals where everyone is trying to get him.... Sorry he is NOT on the trading block.

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04-01-2012, 07:09 AM
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Hamilton is worth more than the first
rask is worth close to the first
LOL @ Hamilton being worth a first overall..... Was this an early April Fool's joke?

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If they asked for Seguin straight up for the 1st overall I would mull it over.

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Sorry RAsk does not get your the first overall pick

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