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11-25-2004, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by puck you
I think Bettman is to blame for the trap, and the defensive systems, expansion has watered down the talent pool in this league incredibly. It's a joke when some teams can barely ice a quality second scoring line.
It doesn't matter who is to blame for the defensive hockey systems. The issue is reviewing and barring the system that reduces offensive play. This is where the league/GM's are pretentiously stubborn. The NBA barred the zone defense about a decade ago. The NFL tweaks rules every year. Look at the 5yd-10yd bump for receivers.

Problem is that the NHL does everything half-ass. One side sticking with tradition, the other side thinking future. NEVER does this league just say 'this is what is - adjust.'

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This reminds of those clips of Orr wizzing around the ice. He circles his own end, speeds up the boards and blows by two or three players on the way to the oppositions net. Each of these players he goes past have their hands on their sticks and unable to step infront of him to impede his progress, they try vainly to turn and skate after him.

This would simply not happen in todays game. er... yesterdays game. when there was a game.

The first guy he went by would slash and hook his arms with his stick, the second player would swing his stick in one hand in front of Orr and use that arm to grab-and-let-go... Orr is now struggling to move at half his previous speed when he runs into player #3... say Derian Hatcher... a fellow known for his exceptional skill at putting both fists with stick into the puck carriers face with rarely garnering any kind of penalty at all. So now Mr. Orr is on his keister while the play races back the other direction... to get halted by the same style of hockey at around the blue line.

I agree the refs can't be shouldering the responsibility for this. The whole league has to make the decision to stop using these kinds of tactics.

I don't want to pick on the Flames too much in this example, as every team uses tons of this stuff in the post season, but I felt they simply raised this kind of hockey to a completely new level. Perhaps because they had so much team speed one could forgive them for it, but the last playoffs were definitely a perfect example of how far things have fallen.

Hands on sticks, no sticks on arms, bodies or legs. No "offensive style" padding, and body padding for goalies that doesn't exceed 2 inches... other than the leg pads and chest protector. Plus a catching glove that is say, half the size of what was used last season. You want a curved stick? Help yourself! No forward passes by the goalie behind the uh... goal line?

Wooo Hooo !

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Is it entirely Bettman's fault that the quality of hockey has died off over his stay? Bettman is guilty of expanding too quickly. However

Bettman doesn't make the rules.

Bettman doesn't tell coaches to play the trap.

Bettman doesn't force players to hook, grab, hold and interfere. The players do that themselves. Maybe if the players aren't happy with the quality of the game they could stop committing the interference. There is a bold thought.
No way the players will choose to stop interference. Like everything in life, you play by the rules, and extend them as far as possible.

Bettman is responsible for the rules, and being a strong authority figure. Thats his job. He's paid 6 million per year. He *should* be forcing the players to stop the interference plays. It all starts from the top. If you have weak leadership who CANNOT implement and govern a simple freakin rule, you have problems.

Gary Bettman is not the problem (the trap, interference, etc are). But he sure as hell isn't the solution. And that is a major problem when solutions cannot be implemented. Bettman needs to be blamed for this.

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