In this whole draft to me David Miller's Hockey IQ is in the top 5. Jake Evans to me is one of the best 2 WAY players in this draft. They will both be excellent second round picks.
Hey Mapleleaf I completely agree and have wanted Erie to take miller in the 2nd rounds for months now. Do you know if he is willing to play anywhere?
It wouldn't surprise me if he is up in the Soo with the Midget London team at the Central Regional Qualifier. The Rebels and 67's are there too they might have added a few Minor Midget kids for this tournament. Does anybody have any information if any of the MM kids are picked up for this tournament?
I know Whitby has MacIntyre and Sudbury has Poulin-Roy and Burgess as of the game sheets....
Hey Mapleleaf I completely agree and have wanted Erie to take miller in the 2nd rounds for months now. Do you know if he is willing to play anywhere?
I have no idea if Miller will play anywhere. I know for a fact Mcdavid is well respected and well liked for his modesty on the ice by other players. This will help all Erie players drafted to go there. Plus they all think he is a phenom.
I think Kingston may snag Miller or Evans with one of there early second round picks. Especially if they go after Hargrave at #9. Both those 2 players are Excellent with Hargrave who to me has the most under rated shot in the GTHL. I can see OHL teams drafting multiple guys from the same teams that played together especially early on.
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[QUOTE=mapleleaf979;47174043]Doesnt put up big numbers? Fabbri had 26 goals 26 assists 52 points in 33 games regular season games. For the whole season, Fabbri led the Rebels in scoring notching 62 goals and 56 assists for 118 points in 69 games, regular season, playoffs and tournaments included. 3rd most in Ontario behind #1 MCdavid and #2 Hosang.
IMO, Brett Hargrave will have the ONE of the easiest transitions of all these boys based on size and the fact the way he scored goals in minor midget, those same scenarios will present themselves in the OHL. This to me is where Sam Bennett's production drops off in the OHL as he will not have those same scenario's, breakaways every period with MCdavid.
Here are 2 snipes from the slot from Hargrave. Total bombs that the goalie didnt even see, both top shelf under the bar. First one at 0:26 short side top shelf is scary good.
We see things differently and that is totally fine. We shall see how it plays out. I would rather have Sam Bennett on my team for the future vs Fabbri, Hargrave and bourne. You don't think there are player's in the O who can set up Bennett?? CMD is an awesome player but let's not say he rode CMD coat tails since they were kids...c'mon. In 3 years time, let's see where these kids are in their careers. Once again, good luck to all!!!
U would want Bennett over Fabbri? Your probably the only one. Its not even close to me. Sam Bennett is one of the softer kids who benefitted greatly from Connor Mcdavid brilliant vision. I came to this conclusion over a course of 50 games. I think he is a bit of fools gold. Love the discussion though. I can see a few "top guys" not doing well. Sam Bennett is one of them for sure. I think some people are crazy to like Bennett over Hargrave as alot do.
I have no idea if Miller will play anywhere. I know for a fact Mcdavid is well respected and well liked for his modesty on the ice by other players. This will help all Erie players drafted to go there. Plus they all think he is a phenom.
I think Kingston may snag Miller or Evans with one of there early second round picks. Especially if they go after Hargrave at #9. Both those 2 players are Excellent with Hargrave who to me has the most under rated shot in the GTHL. I can see OHL teams drafting multiple guys from the same teams that played together especially early on.
I think mcdavid would play great along with harper who is a pure goal scorer and has huge potential. To me a perfect second round for Erie would be miller and then taking duchesne or centorame. If that's the case they also have 2 3rd round picks where they could get a player with some grit. They certainly need that but they have two young players in crisp and McGuire that can play with an edge
I think mcdavid would play great along with harper who is a pure goal scorer and has huge potential. To me a perfect second round for Erie would be miller and then taking duchesne or centorame. If that's the case they also have 2 3rd round picks where they could get a player with some grit. They certainly need that but they have two young players in crisp and McGuire that can play with an edge
Good call, HArper may get 40 next year. I love Centorame as well. I think he goes early second round. I was going to suggest above that Miller would do better with Mcdavid than Evans, imo. The puck follows Miller out there. He is like a little general out there. Non stop effort and even grit for his size. He always brings it in clutch games. Miller is an under rated playmaker as well. His IQ will generate chances in the OHL. MAybe Erie has a shot at Nikki Peti or Lindo at #29, not likely. Owen Mcdade is pretty impressive too. Not sure if they look for a guy to play with Mcdavid or just another top guy.
Erie is picking #44 as well. I take Kyle Petit here and Keaton Ratcliffe a tad later.
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U would want Bennett over Fabbri? Your probably the only one. Its not even close to me. Sam Bennett is one of the softer kids who benefitted greatly from Connor Mcdavid brilliant vision. I came to this conclusion over a course of 50 games. I think he is a bit of fools gold. Love the discussion though. I can see a few "top guys" not doing well. Sam Bennett is one of them for sure. I think some people are crazy to like Bennett over Hargrave as alot do.
Hey Mapleleaf, I respect your opinion greatly, but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. BENNETT will be the Sleeper of the Draft. I agree, Bennett got alot of confidence playing with McDavid, and he will build on it. He has height, and will fill out and if he continues to improve his vision, and speed, he will be a star in the OHL.
Hargraves has to improve his finishing, and Fabbri plays too hard all the time, and that might be his downfall. He may get into fights, get runned at. He has to tone it down.
In speaking to alot of GMs and scouts, it seems like Dmen are moving up, and forwards are sliding down. Teams are not just going to pick the Best Player Available at their spot. Alot of teams need Dmen.
In speaking to alot of GMs and scouts, it seems like Dmen are moving up, and forwards are sliding down. Teams are not just going to pick the Best Player Available at their spot. Alot of teams need Dmen.
We may see 5-7 dmen go in the first round.
This will be good for teams that already have a surplus of D-Man on their roster.. Hopefully a very good talent slips to Petes at 25.
Hey Mapleleaf, I respect your opinion greatly, but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. BENNETT will be the Sleeper of the Draft. I agree, Bennett got alot of confidence playing with McDavid, and he will build on it. He has height, and will fill out and if he continues to improve his vision, and speed, he will be a star in the OHL.
Hargraves has to improve his finishing, and Fabbri plays too hard all the time, and that might be his downfall. He may get into fights, get runned at. He has to tone it down.
LOL ...really sleeper? With Bennett u mentioned Height(alot of kids are 6-0) and u saying if about his vision, speed? Alot of IF's there. Mcdavid made him look good though. Mcdavid's vision is not normal, how do u factor that in? Its tough and I mentioned Bennett being a tough read based on Mcdavids presence all season long. He can snipe yes, Bennett has a nice release on his shot and is clutch in big games. He is not a super fast skater, nor is his vision fantasic. I think he is tad soft. Enjoy the discussion though. He is far from star to me.
Hargrave will transition easier to the OHL than Bennett by a MILE. Fabbri only knows one speed and thats full on. He will be fine. He will not fight, thats for sure. Robby FAbbri is ALOT tougher than Bennett. Alot of the Rebels players have a good defensive base to work with in the OHL as well.
I enjoy the discussion though, chew. U make good points as well.
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In speaking to alot of GMs and scouts, it seems like Dmen are moving up, and forwards are sliding down. Teams are not just going to pick the Best Player Available at their spot. Alot of teams need Dmen.
We may see 5-7 dmen go in the first round.
Who ever gets Dylan Diperna is going to be super lucky. He is worthy of a top ten pick to me. I think the world of Roland MCkeown and mentioned him being worthy of #2 along time ago. If I got Diperna instead of Mckeown I would not be let down very much at all. His skating skillls and shot are top of the food chain. I believe he steps into the top 4 next year and is a #1 or #2 moving forward. He will be in the NHL some day. This draft is packed full of forwards, hence why u may want to get the top few Dmen while they are there. The forwards are endless.
Im assuming that there is no trades throughout the draft considering its playoffs, right? And im just wondering, but why wouldnt they just wait til the end of the season for the draft? Sorry if this is stupid or if its in another thread but id like to know..
LOL ...really sleeper? With Bennett u mentioned Height(alot of kids are 6-0) and u saying if about his vision, speed? Alot of IF's there. Mcdavid made him look good though. Mcdavid's vision is not normal, how do u factor that in? Its tough and I mentioned Bennett being a tough read based on Mcdavids presence all season long. He can snipe yes, Bennett has a nice release on his shot and is clutch in big games. He is not a super fast skater, nor is his vision fantasic. I think he is tad soft. Enjoy the discussion though. He is far from star to me.
Hargrave will transition easier to the OHL than Bennett by a MILE. Fabbri only knows one speed and thats full on. He will be fine. He will not fight, thats for sure. Robby FAbbri is ALOT tougher than Bennett. Alot of the Rebels players have a good defensive base to work with in the OHL as well.
I enjoy the discussion though, chew. U make good points as well.
Can someone tell me if any other player in this years draft, or heck, any other year that has had the benefit of playing on a line with a talent like McDavid for his whole minor league career? Without disrespect, Sam is a good player, but realistically, if you were to give any one player in the top 50, that opportunity wouldnt they they think they'd died and gone to heaven? He will be ok, but in my Humble opinion, a late second rounder at best.
[QUOTE=mapleleaf979;47183001]LOL ...really sleeper? With Bennett u mentioned Height(alot of kids are 6-0) and u saying if about his vision, speed? Alot of IF's there. Mcdavid made him look good though. Mcdavid's vision is not normal, how do u factor that in? Its tough and I mentioned Bennett being a tough read based on Mcdavids presence all season long. He can snipe yes, Bennett has a nice release on his shot and is clutch in big games. He is not a super fast skater, nor is his vision fantasic. I think he is tad soft. Enjoy the discussion though. He is far from star to me.
Bennett also made McDavid look good on many occasions this year. Bennett was the most gritty/nastiest of the top 3 on the Marlies, and even duked it out against the Kings.
Bennett started the season off the radar, and by the end of the year he probably increased in ranking more than any one else in the MM year.
THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, I CAN SEE 4-5 MARLIES IN THE TOP 10, AND DEFINITELY 6-7 IN THE FIRST ROUND.
Can someone tell me if any other player in this years draft, or heck, any other year that has had the benefit of playing on a line with a talent like McDavid for his whole minor league career? Without disrespect, Sam is a good player, but realistically, if you were to give any one player in the top 50, that opportunity wouldnt they they think they'd died and gone to heaven? He will be ok, but in my Humble opinion, a late second rounder at best.
Wow. Is the air North of 7 thin, and thats why you are starting to halucinate? LOL
Remember, it takes 2 to tangle. In some of the GTHL games, Bennett led the way in scoring, and was on more than 1 occasion, player of the game.
Can someone tell me if any other player in this years draft, or heck, any other year that has had the benefit of playing on a line with a talent like McDavid for his whole minor league career? Without disrespect, Sam is a good player, but realistically, if you were to give any one player in the top 50, that opportunity wouldnt they they think they'd died and gone to heaven? He will be ok, but in my Humble opinion, a late second rounder at best.
Just to answer your question, the '92 Nats had Skinner on the same line with Seguin, and as we can all see, both were stars in the OHL and in the NHL. I rest my case.
Just to answer your question, the '92 Nats had Skinner on the same line with Seguin, and as we can all see, both were stars in the OHL and in the NHL. I rest my case.
Stamkos played with Hodgson.
Gagner with Tavares as well. Elite talent tends to play with each other at the MM level.
Gagner with Tavares as well. Elite talent tends to play with each other at the MM level.
Thanks Pick Six.
I am sure there are more out there also that we cant think of right now. I am sure that Tigers can provide some other history related 1-2 same line star combinations.
Alright, who's the best pugilist with OHL potential available in the draft? If some team is looking for some toughness with enough skill to keep up, who's the guy they want?
Alright, who's the best pugilist with OHL potential available in the draft? If some team is looking for some toughness with enough skill to keep up, who's the guy they want?
London wants him eh? I wonder if their sales pitch starts off with "So you want to stick it to Rychel for the Campbell rip-off how about drafting Ho-Sang and trading him to us..."
Of course Windsor takes McCann and half the decision makers will be more happy.
Dont put words in my mouth my friend .
The Soo are looking at all options. That is all.
Id put my money on them drafting McCann, but thats me.
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