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04-01-2012, 12:10 PM
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... ... all this thread is starting to fall on the edge of who's got the right direction !! hopefully we are not part of the mix ...

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04-01-2012, 12:16 PM
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Tom Barrasso won cups with Pittsburgh, drafted by Buffalo
Bill Ranford won cup in Edmonton , drafted by Boston


So again, throw out the we need to draft the goalie to win a cup stuff.

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04-01-2012, 12:17 PM
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Calgary is goona blow it up ..

My bet is Kipper is gone
Jerome likewise gone


Now did Halak go to ST Louis to play behind Price again?
Answer yes or no?
Ok so one of him or Elliot is GONE in 2 year time or less.



Miller? me thinks his time in Buff is running short,
so i'd lay high odds he leaving Buff in next 2 years.



The King in NY Ranger net? who knows.



I got confidence we can land one , to replace long term hole in net .

Well, that's great buddy. Sadly, you ''thinking they'll be gone'' is not a solid argument.

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04-01-2012, 12:20 PM
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Go back a little further, what about Clint Benedict, he wasn't drafted by the Maroons either

Anyways, other than naming old goalies that are currently irrelevant (save perhaps for Thomas, who came out of nowhere), when looking at the younger potential UFA goalies you named, there is no guarantee that they will be available. Trading a franchise goalie right now would leave us in an insanely precarious position. One that undoubtedly (and hopefully) most GM's wouldn't be willing to put their team in, unless someone really overpays. In that case, we'd still have a huge gap in net, unless we hit a home run in the FA market 2-3 years from now. The plan suggested has too many holes in it.

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04-01-2012, 12:21 PM
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Well, that's great buddy. Sadly, you ''thinking they'll be gone'' is not a solid argument.
Just so you know, my forward thinking is pretty solid.

I was the one in Nov 2011 calling Habs playoffs already dead.

I was the one who when Ducks was 15-18 pts behind us , called bank on a Habs getting second overall pick .....



When i say Kipper is gone, i feel good saying that.

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04-01-2012, 12:33 PM
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Just so you know, my forward thinking is pretty solid.

I was the one in Nov 2011 calling Habs playoffs already dead.

I was the one who when Ducks was 15-18 pts behind us , called bank on a Habs getting second overall pick .....



When i say Kipper is gone, i feel good saying that.
Wow, you feel good saying he's gone, great for you.
Let's trade our young and promising starter because you feel good saying Kipper will be gone from CGY, in 2years, and we'll go after him when he'll be 38. Or are you suggesting we trade for him? You make so much sense..

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04-01-2012, 12:35 PM
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Wow, you feel good saying he's gone, great for you.
Let's trade our young and promising starter because you feel good saying Kipper will be gone from CGY. That makes sense.


I say trade him for another young promise.....hey what so hard to understand ? Our net will be plugged with a capable goalie .


Or you a Theodore promise lover?

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04-01-2012, 12:38 PM
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KrissE,

What do you honest think Montreal would get if they shopped Price NHL wide?


What is the return?

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04-01-2012, 12:38 PM
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I'll play.

1. Sign Carey Price on a long-term deal with a $6M cap hit.
2. Sign Subban on a 3 year deal for 3.5-4.
3. Try to retain Moen and Darche. Our farm can't yet supply us with a decent bottom 6.
4. Pursue Suter and Parise, and when that fails, go after a bottom 4 physical D.
5. Try to trade Plekanec for 2013 picks

This plan should allow us to remain a lottery team for the 2013 draft. The new GM/coach will be allowed to ''tank'' one season and blame it on the previous management, putting them in a nice position to bounce back with strong talent coming from our 2012 1st and 2013 1st.

Retain the core, trade Plekanec for more 2013 picks, take one more dive, and hope to move pending 2014 UFAs at the 2013 deadline

Abandon for MacKinnon!

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04-01-2012, 12:45 PM
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bury gomer in the minors

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04-01-2012, 12:45 PM
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I'll play.

1. Sign Carey Price on a long-term deal with a $6M cap hit.
2. Sign Subban on a 3 year deal for 3.5-4.
3. Try to retain Moen and Darche. Our farm can't yet supply us with a decent bottom 6.
4. Pursue Suter and Parise, and when that fails, go after a bottom 4 physical D.
5. Try to trade Plekanec for 2013 picks

This plan should allow us to remain a lottery team for the 2013 draft. The new GM/coach will be allowed to ''tank'' one season and blame it on the previous management, putting them in a nice position to bounce back with strong talent coming from our 2012 1st and 2013 1st.

Retain the core, trade Plekanec for more 2013 picks, take one more dive, and hope to move pending 2014 UFAs at the 2013 deadline

Abandon for MacKinnon!

I like some ,not all of your thinking.

1.Why is it a must to retain Darche now?Is there not a better option in the NHL ??? I mean honestly ,there's guys that can do what Darche does and actually put up good points while doing it .
If a new GM walks into Montreal ands say i need this Darche guy,without exhausting UFA pool, i will fall over...lol
Darche = Gauthier

2.PK at 3.5 million? I wish ....not goona happen ....

3.A 6 millon Price.....man that is reality or close.

4.Plek i want to stay ,get Jagr to play with him.
He deserves good line mates ,not like this year where he played 25 on different line combinations!

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04-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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KrissE,

What do you honest think Montreal would get if they shopped Price NHL wide?


What is the return?
why trade price, crazy man

you build around a star like this

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04-01-2012, 12:49 PM
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why trade price, crazy man

you build around a star like this
If we was trading him away for Fred Jackhoff and Barry Backman and a 2nd rounder, NO makes no sense .




If it means a LAST PLACE TEAM with Price, getting Yakupov and Mikhail Grigorenko AND Malcom Subban in the 2012 Draft?

That a club changer right away.....

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04-01-2012, 12:53 PM
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To all the one having a hard time graspin Price gone,

Would Montreal be any worse if they had Halak and drafted Anze Kopitar in 2005?

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04-01-2012, 12:53 PM
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KrissE,

What do you honest think Montreal would get if they shopped Price NHL wide?


What is the return?
I have no idea what the return is, but I can tell you that I'm not interested in the return if it doesn't mean having a capable young goalie in return.

I'm not trading Price for Yakupov. First off, we might not even have to trade anybody to get Yakupov.

You're not going to get Yakupov-Grigs-Radulov-Subban here. Forget about that. It's not going to happen. Not unless guys like MaxPac-Price-PK are moved around, and if you do that, you're not improving your team. So there's no point in doing it.

Drop the idea buddy. Price only gets involved in a trade if we FOR SURE have another keeper coming in, and I don't mean a 35+ goalie via free agency, I mean a young promising goalie like Quick and that won't happen.

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04-01-2012, 12:57 PM
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I have no idea what the return is, but I can tell you that I'm not interested in the return if it doesn't mean having a capable young goalie in return.

I'm not trading Price for Yakupov. First off, we might not even have to trade anybody to get Yakupov.

You're not going to get Yakupov-Grigs-Radulov-Subban here. Forget about that. It's not going to happen. Not unless guys like MaxPac-Price-PK are moved around, and if you do that, you're not improving your team. So there's no point in doing it.

Drop the idea buddy. Price only gets involved in a trade if we FOR SURE have another keeper coming in, and I don't mean a 35+ goalie via free agency, I mean a young promising goalie like Quick and that won't happen.

Just bang your head on this for a second ,

Phil Kessel got Boston

first round selection in 2010
first rounder in 2011
and a second round selection in 2010


YOU DON'T THINK PRICE, can get us that much??
So from Columbus ,we get ore than just YAK!!

Open up the eyes...

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04-01-2012, 01:21 PM
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Just bang your head on this for a second ,

Phil Kessel got Boston

first round selection in 2010
first rounder in 2011
and a second round selection in 2010


YOU DON'T THINK PRICE, can get us that much??
So from Columbus ,we get ore than just YAK!!

Open up the eyes...
I have no idea. But again, something you keep disregarding, the Bruins had enough depth to move Kessel. We have NO ONE to replace Price.
And look at where the Oilers, CLB, NYI have gone without a decent keeper despite getting high draft picks.

Like I said, I have no interest in moving Price unless we get a great goalie prospect.

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04-01-2012, 02:03 PM
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1) Take care of signing the core players you want to build around. Sign Price ($6M cap hit), Subban ($4.5M cap hit), Pacioretty ($4.5M cap hit) and Eller ($2.5M cap hit) to long term deals in the 5 to 7 year ranges.

2) Trade Plekanec + for a top tier prospect forward (a la Huberdeau)

3) Let Timmins make his first pick and then package a 2nd rounder to move back into the first round to get a player Timmins really likes but has slid.

4) In free agency take a huge run at Suter and Parise. Pick up some grit players who can also play like Prust, Gaustad....and get a defenseman who can stand up in a scrum in front of his own net.

5) Wait to see if there is an amnesty buy out and get rid of Gomez and Kaberle. If no buy out, bury in the minors.

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04-01-2012, 06:08 PM
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Get rid of soft players, set a new team identity.

Trade Plekanec. He's not worth 5 mil

Get rid of Gomez and Kaberle

Trade Gionta for whatever

Get rid of Diaz

Bring in players who are able to compete every night with the big boys




Buy a time machine and send Price to St Louis and retain Halak. I still think Price is mentally weak.

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04-01-2012, 06:23 PM
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If we was trading him away for Fred Jackhoff and Barry Backman and a 2nd rounder, NO makes no sense .




If it means a LAST PLACE TEAM with Price, getting Yakupov and Mikhail Grigorenko AND Malcom Subban in the 2012 Draft?

That a club changer right away.....
You build around price not trade him. Price is not 35 years old!

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04-01-2012, 06:49 PM
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Lets be honest, for example 2 years from now Montreal signs Lundqvist to a 5 year deal.

We any worse a team?
Your board name pops up over and over. I'm waiting for you to post something sensible. I'm running out of patience (and so are a lot of others). PLEASE!!

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04-01-2012, 06:53 PM
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You build around price not trade him. Price is not 35 years old!
Sam is right

Conventional wisdom says that you build championship teams from the net out.

If you have a stud like Price, you keep a stud like Price!

Can't compare the bruins unloading kessel to the habs trading price

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04-01-2012, 07:11 PM
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I would...

1. Hire Julien Brisebois as GM, Damphousse as Asst. GM, Patrick Roy as Coach, Carbo as Asst. Coach, rest would be Roy's own crew
2. Draft Grigorenko. If unavailable, go for Galchenyuk or Yakupov
3. Try for a trade/Buyout/Send down to minors/Kill Scott Gomez, while at it, try the same for Kaberle, Bourque
4. Sign Price for 4 years at 5.5m/y, sign Subban for 3 years at 4.5m/y
5. Try to lure in Radulov as a UFA, sign Parenteau at a reasonable value

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I don't really expect Grigs tom make the line up as soon as next season, but hey you never know, kid might just be our best possible center. Still, looking at the Panthers and Huberdeau situation, that is unpredictable.

As for Radulov, I don't expect him to change address if the Preds get into the Final Four in the Playoffs. And even then, Nashville has a pretty solid team, so he might just sign long term there anyway.

Anyways, a guy can dream.

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04-01-2012, 08:36 PM
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I would...

1. Hire Julien Brisebois as GM, Damphousse as Asst. GM, Patrick Roy as Coach, Carbo as Asst. Coach, rest would be Roy's own crew
2. Draft Grigorenko. If unavailable, go for Galchenyuk or Yakupov
3. Try for a trade/Buyout/Send down to minors/Kill Scott Gomez, while at it, try the same for Kaberle, Bourque
4. Sign Price for 4 years at 5.5m/y, sign Subban for 3 years at 4.5m/y
5. Try to lure in Radulov as a UFA, sign Parenteau at a reasonable value

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I don't really expect Grigs tom make the line up as soon as next season, but hey you never know, kid might just be our best possible center. Still, looking at the Panthers and Huberdeau situation, that is unpredictable.

As for Radulov, I don't expect him to change address if the Preds get into the Final Four in the Playoffs. And even then, Nashville has a pretty solid team, so he might just sign long term there anyway.

Anyways, a guy can dream.
Whether or not Grigorenko becomes the best Habs center, can you safely predict that he'll be among the top 10 or 20 (or even 40) centers in the NHL? If he isn't. the partisans at he Centre Bell will eat his liver and spit it out and curse the new GM for selecting a Russian.

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1. Hire a coach. The best available is probably French speaking, so language doesn't matter.

2. Send Gomez far away where he doesn't count on the cap.

3. Strongly suggest Yannic Weber to pull a Rafalski.

4. No rush with star wingers. Those will come in due time.

5. Get a decent 4th line C who'll know his role. Think Jeff Halpern last year.


EDIT : I mean, signing Price and Subban was so obvious... Eller, however, should be traded IF he asks for more than 2M.

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