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04-01-2012, 07:49 AM
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here is what i said a while back in Jan 2012, and i think it's a win .

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GM: Pierre Lacroix
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You're bringing a great point. While we are deeply in search for GM and then we will be for a coach, I think that the most important search in the end ends up being the assistant coach. With all those upcoming prospects on D, let just pray we have a guy like Larry Robinson who will join this organization. Okay exagerrating a bit, GM and coach are more crucial, but I just think Robinson is as well. Unless there's something out of left field coming....wouldn't be surprised that they fire Cunneyworth and keep Carrière as the D coach.

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I wouldn't mind bringing back rejean houle... He would have the guts to trade assets for assets (trade price , anyone ? ) -_- but following on something more serious, i supect rejean houle to have multiple accounts on hfboards. Just take a look at the the thread about the five thing the next gm should do.... Omg !

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What about Jacques Lemaire for GM? Wasn't he Savard's Assistant GM in the 80's?
And it was not too long after he left that the Habs started to go bad. The guy was a great surgeon as assistant GM, pointing out where things were going wrong, what the team needed. Before each game Lemaire would sit with the coaching staff(even if he was not the coach) to talk strategy. The guy is brilliant. I know he wouldn't like being coach because of the travel but as GM or assistant GM or perhaps specialist of players' developement(?) he could be useful to us.

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You're bringing a great point. While we are deeply in search for GM and then we will be for a coach, I think that the most important search in the end ends up being the assistant coach. With all those upcoming prospects on D, let just pray we have a guy like Larry Robinson who will join this organization. Okay exagerrating a bit, GM and coach are more crucial, but I just think Robinson is as well. Unless there's something out of left field coming....wouldn't be surprised that they fire Cunneyworth and keep Carrière as the D coach.
Hopefully you meant Ladouceur.

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04-01-2012, 12:12 PM
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The way things stand, I see Julien Brisebois as GM with Vinny Damphousse as assistant, Patrick Roy head coach, Carbo special teams and Eric Desjardins defense. Almost a starting six. LOL. Seriously, all kidding asides, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what we end up with, or something close. Wouldn't mind Robinson either but I'm not sure he's available or willing. Scotty Bowman in advisory role would be great.

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So when do the interview and whose been contacted rumours start to slip out? Who do the Habs really want to talk to?

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04-01-2012, 12:23 PM
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So when do the interview and whose been contacted rumours start to slip out? Who do the Habs really want to talk to?
Elliot Friedman said Monday Molson is going to talk with Serge and start to put an actual list of candidates together.

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Important , hope everyone was watching HNIC especially M Molson and M Savard. Scotty Bowman said that if the Canadians cal him, he would be willing to help them in there search for a GM. Naturally as he mentionned they would need to ask the Blackhawks for permission. This happenened at the beginning of the HNIC broadcast about 25 minutes in and was also reiterated on the Hotstove in the second intermission. I believe this is a very important moment for the habs and they should take full advantage of this offer of help.cheers

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Elliot Friedman said Monday Molson is going to talk with Serge and start to put an actual list of candidates together.
A three day weekend after the press conference and six days after Gauthier knew he was let go and now they're gonna start to mull over candidates? Interesting, I could be over-thinking this but I bet their list isn't huge after hearing that, probably already have a good idea.

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If Bowman is willing to help, they would be crazy not to bring him on board.

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A three day weekend after the press conference and six days after Gauthier knew he was let go and now they're gonna start to mull over candidates? Interesting, I could be over-thinking this but I bet their list isn't huge after hearing that, probably already have a good idea.
This was my initial reaction as well but after thinking about it. If Serge was just hired the day of the press conference, realistically, it's going to take him a few days to do some research and put together a list of candidates.

At least if he's doing it properly that's how he should be doing it and not just giving a list of his friends.

If he's doing it properly, there should be about 50 names to start with, all 30 assistant GM's should be looked at, then you also start thinking about other GM's that aren't working and also you look to other leagues like the Q for Patrick etc....

They really should be looking at everybody to start and pearing down the list from there.

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If Bowman is willing to help, they would be crazy not to bring him on board.
I don't think it's that much of a no brainer.

Gotta question the motives at least a little bit. If he's working for the hawks, why go help another NHL team ?

Genuine love and care for his first team ?
Pimp his friend McGuire ?
Deflect attention off of Bergevin so the Hawks can keep him ?
A bit of everything ?

And do the habs really need 10 people coming in to decide who the future GM will be ?

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Important , hope everyone was watching HNIC especially M Molson and M Savard. Scotty Bowman said that if the Canadians cal him, he would be willing to help them in there search for a GM. Naturally as he mentionned they would need to ask the Blackhawks for permission. This happenened at the beginning of the HNIC broadcast about 25 minutes in and was also reiterated on the Hotstove in the second intermission. I believe this is a very important moment for the habs and they should take full advantage of this offer of help.cheers
I said I think Bowman should be a candidate for the GM role. And by candidate I mean he SHOULD be the GM should he want the job. If I'm Molson, I'd definately ask Bowman for his opinion. He's a living legend!

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I don't think it's that much of a no brainer.

Gotta question the motives at least a little bit. If he's working for the hawks, why go help another NHL team ?

Genuine love and care for his first team ?
Pimp his friend McGuire ?
Deflect attention off of Bergevin so the Hawks can keep him ?
A bit of everything ?

And do the habs really need 10 people coming in to decide who the future GM will be ?
He's 80 years old and a very loyal man. I'd blanketly trust his opinion. The Hawks won the cup and him helping the Habs will have practically zero bearing on the Hawks. It could only ever hurt them if we meet them in the finals and beat them, which the chances of that happening are pretty damn slim.

Also, the more minds looking for the right guy, the better imo. Say what you want about Detroit's model but its top heavy in management. Look at all the people who are saying Patrick Roy buys success, its because its top heavy in scouting.

Why would you be against that?


Also, there are a few people expressing concern about Savard having too much of a draft from the Q / GM must be french attitude, having someone who understands the Montreal marketplace and giving perspective can only help imo.

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This was my initial reaction as well but after thinking about it. If Serge was just hired the day of the press conference, realistically, it's going to take him a few days to do some research and put together a list of candidates.

At least if he's doing it properly that's how he should be doing it and not just giving a list of his friends.

If he's doing it properly, there should be about 50 names to start with, all 30 assistant GM's should be looked at, then you also start thinking about other GM's that aren't working and also you look to other leagues like the Q for Patrick etc....

They really should be looking at everybody to start and pearing down the list from there.
I dont think Serge was hired that day. Tony Marinaro (Yeah, I know) reported that Molson and Serge had a meeting way back in like january. Don't know what to believe right now.

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This was my initial reaction as well but after thinking about it. If Serge was just hired the day of the press conference, realistically, it's going to take him a few days to do some research and put together a list of candidates.

At least if he's doing it properly that's how he should be doing it and not just giving a list of his friends.

If he's doing it properly, there should be about 50 names to start with, all 30 assistant GM's should be looked at, then you also start thinking about other GM's that aren't working and also you look to other leagues like the Q for Patrick etc....

They really should be looking at everybody to start and pearing down the list from there.
Savard said on RDS that they'd been talking about it for the past week or 10 days. We also know for a fact that Gauthier was told he was fired earlier but they had to wait because of some unfinished business (signing of Pateryn I believe).
So, what have they been discussing since then? They should already have a list, at least a preliminary one. What else is there to do? Play ''Flip the cup''?

Not that it really matters, I don't think we'll know who the next GM will be before the end of the POs.

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Lots of people on this board are thinking that hiring a unilingual GM from another organization is the way to go because this person would not have to face the medias on a daily basis... Fine...

The same people then are saying that a bilingual coach is more important because of these daily contacts with the medias/fans.... Fine again...

Now, what are the chances a unilingual new GM from another organization hire a Bilingual coach - especially a French-Canadian born in Quebec ? ... Very weak chances - Not because the new GM is biased towards French-Canadians, but because it's a Boys Club where you are hiring your best buddies and people you know well.

If you don't have a Bilingual GM, - OR - a Unilingual GM with some good understandings and knowledges about the Habs and its market (let's say just for the sake of example, Risebrough who played here for a good while and had Lemaire and Trembaly as his coaches in Minny), there is strong chances that the Habs gonna end up with another Unilingual head coach.

And that is something Mr.Molson certainly doesn't want.

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Lots of people on this board are thinking that hiring a unilingual GM from another organization is the way to go because this person would not have to face the medias on a daily basis... Fine...

The same people then are saying that a bilingual coach is more important because of these daily contacts with the medias/fans.... Fine again...

Now, what are the chances a unilingual new GM from another organization hire a Bilingual coach - especially a French-Canadian born in Quebec ? ... Very weak chances - Not because the new GM is biased towards French-Canadians, but because it's a Boys Club where you are hiring your best buddies and people you know well.

If you don't have a Bilingual GM, - OR - a Unilingual GM with some good understandings and knowledges about the Habs and its market (let's say just for the sake of example, Risebrough who played here for a good while and had Lemaire and Trembaly as his coaches in Minny), there is strong chances that the Habs gonna end up with another Unilingual head coach.

And that is something Mr.Molson certainly doesn't want.

As someone in the minority who thinks a bilingual GM is even more important than a bilingual head coach, any competent GM should be able to have the resources and advisers to know what NHL calibur coaches who speak French are available.

This is not the 1950s anymore, anglo and francophones aren't isolated from each other.

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Savard said on RDS that they'd been talking about it for the past week or 10 days. We also know for a fact that Gauthier was told he was fired earlier but they had to wait because of some unfinished business (signing of Pateryn I believe).
So, what have they been discussing since then? They should already have a list, at least a preliminary one. What else is there to do? Play ''Flip the cup''?

Not that it really matters, I don't think we'll know who the next GM will be before the end of the POs.
Possible but...

Maybe the guys they are looking at are already available (unemployed) or are part of non-playoffs teams.

But, the way Mr.Molson talked about Larry Carrière's responsabilities for the next few months, I can agree with you that the candidates they are pursuing are in the playoffs- at NHL level or Junior level...

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The way things stand, I see Julien Brisebois as GM with Vinny Damphousse as assistant, Patrick Roy head coach, Carbo special teams and Eric Desjardins defense. Almost a starting six. LOL. Seriously, all kidding asides, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what we end up with, or something close. Wouldn't mind Robinson either but I'm not sure he's available or willing. Scotty Bowman in advisory role would be great.

Robinson has said he be willing to listen we the canadiens call

he did want a job here before and called but our great management team never called him back

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Robinson has said he be willing to listen we the canadiens call

he did want a job here before and called but our great management team never called him back
Robinson would be great alongside Roy.

Other candidates for d-man coaching are Lefebvre in Colorado, JJ Daigneault in the Rangers org., and even Randy Ladouceur. Desjardins has no coaching experience at all.

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I don't think it's that much of a no brainer.

Gotta question the motives at least a little bit. If he's working for the hawks, why go help another NHL team ?

Genuine love and care for his first team ?
Pimp his friend McGuire ?
Deflect attention off of Bergevin so the Hawks can keep him ?
A bit of everything ?

And do the habs really need 10 people coming in to decide who the future GM will be ?
Easily the first one. The guy got his big break with the club, and its not like we're even a rival of the Hawks. Its not sabotage, because that actually is punishable.

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Possible but...

Maybe the guys they are looking at are already available (unemployed)
or are part of non-playoffs teams.

But, the way Mr.Molson talked about Larry Carrière's responsabilities for the next few months, I can agree with you that the candidates they are pursuing are in the playoffs- at NHL level or Junior level...
I really do not want them to hire anybody that doesn't currently hold a position in another organization. That's why I'm not so interested in Damphousse, McGuire, or any other ''analyst''. Earlier in the year I thought Damphousse was interesting, because he was a breath of fresh air compared to the morons on the shows like AC, but that quickly passed.

Give me someone with experience, that's been part of a winning organization. To me, it's really just between Nill and Bergevin. Those are my two main targets, in that order. Fenton is the plan C, but I have my reservations about him.

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Important , hope everyone was watching HNIC especially M Molson and M Savard. Scotty Bowman said that if the Canadians cal him, he would be willing to help them in there search for a GM. Naturally as he mentionned they would need to ask the Blackhawks for permission. This happenened at the beginning of the HNIC broadcast about 25 minutes in and was also reiterated on the Hotstove in the second intermission. I believe this is a very important moment for the habs and they should take full advantage of this offer of help.cheers
yes i heard this also,and if Scotty and Serge get together and both say Julien Brisebois i'd be shocked.

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