Prospect Info: 2011-2012 CHL/NCAA/Euro Prospects thread II

[dcal64]

Originally Posted by Treb

You could give him an ATO to play in the AHL. That wouldn't count against the 50 contracts limit. So no, it shouldn't be contract-related.

Maybe Darche, Moen, and Gomez plan to play on Saturday, in which case we would be sending down Palushaj, Leblanc, Geoffrion, and Dumont (well at least 3 of those 4).

So that would probably mean not much use for him in Hamilton.

I think if the Dogs were going to make the playoffs, then they probably would have invited him as insurance against injuries.

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

In "reading between the lines" episode, what can this tweet by Kristo really means? https://twitter.com/#!/dkristo7/stat...49878211485696

Can it mean he's staying there at least till now?

I think you are looking for something that isn't there. He's just saying he will miss one of his buddies.

[habsprospects]

Originally Posted by TheBuriedHab

Is the Gallagher thing contract related by any chance to us being at the 50 contract limit? I heard something about being at the limit, not sure how all that stuff works.

Nope, we have 53 contracts signed for 2011-12, including Gallagher/Tinordi/Bournival, but they don't count on the 50 limit because they didn't play 10 NHL games.

Originally Posted by Treb

You could give him an ATO to play in the AHL.

He already has a contract for 2011-12, he could just have been sent to Hamilton like any signed player except that he is out of junior.

[Beakermania*]

Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan

I think you are looking for something that isn't there. He's just saying he will miss one of his buddies.

My take too, it doesnt say he's staying just that his roommate is leaving

[DekeLikeYouMeanIt]

Originally Posted by habsprospects

Nope, we have 53 contracts signed for 2011-12, including Gallagher/Tinordi/Bournival, but they don't count on the 50 limit because they didn't play 10 NHL games.


He already has a contract for 2011-12, he could just have been sent to Hamilton like any signed player except that he is out of junior.

But the contract would not have slid to 2012/13, right?

[Whitesnake]

Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan

I think you are looking for something that isn't there. He's just saying he will miss one of his buddies.

Surely. Yet, if you leave, why would you miss him as a roomate? Just that, I don't believe he hasn't been signed yet. First Gallagher isn't being signed. No signs of Kristo. Hey I miss Gauthier already...he made it happen with Pateryn....

[Beakermania*]

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

Surely. Yet, if you leave, why would you miss him as a roomate? Just that, I don't believe he hasn't been signed yet. First Gallagher isn't being signed. No signs of Kristo. Hey I miss Gauthier already...he made it happen with Pateryn....

Even if he leaves he'd still miss his roomate

He'll get a new roomate in the NHL/AHL

[Shutdown]

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

Surely. Yet, if you leave, why would you miss him as a roomate?

To be teammates and roommates with a guy means you're with him 3/4 of the day, odds are you'll probably be good friends.

[habsprospects]

Originally Posted by Habsolument90

But the contract would not have slid to 2012/13, right?

The only way his contract wouldn't "slid", is if he had played 10 NHL games, which he didn't.

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Marc Antoine Godin ‏ @MAGodin
For those wondering, Brendan Gallagher wasn't brought up to Hamilton Bulldogs because #Habs thought he had played enough games this year.

[charlie]

Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan

Marc Antoine Godin ‏ @MAGodin
For those wondering, Brendan Gallagher wasn't brought up to Hamilton Bulldogs because #Habs thought he had played enough games this year.

Im cool with that.

[Whitesnake]

Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan

Marc Antoine Godin ‏ @MAGodin
For those wondering, Brendan Gallagher wasn't brought up to Hamilton Bulldogs because #Habs thought he had played enough games this year.

How many games are we talking here? Seven? And the kid wanted to come? Honestly, I don't see the big deal of using him...we are not talking about 30 games here....

[bcv]

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

How many games are we talking here? Seven? And the kid wanted to come? Honestly, I don't see the big deal of using him...we are not talking about 30 games here....

Exactly, it's no big deal in every way we look at it. I think we can let it go.

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Kristo lost another roommate today as Ben Blood signed with Ottawa...

[Scotianhab]

Ben Blood is also Dannys 2nd cousin so seeing him leave and his roomate Nelson leave could have an impact on his decision to turn pro with us. I think you'll see him sign soon.

[habsprospects]

Huh, well, Ben Blood is a senior, he was leaving anyway..

[SergeConstantin74]

Nathan Beaulieu was beat by Jerome G.-Leduc for defenseman of the year in the QMJHL.

Morgan Ellis had won defensive defenseman of the year 2 weeks ago.

Beaulieu and Ellis were named together on the 2nd all-star team.

[EveryDay]

Originally Posted by SergeConstantin74

Nathan Beaulieu was beat by Jerome G.-Leduc for defenseman of the year in the QMJHL.

Morgan Ellis had won defensive defenseman of the year 2 weeks ago.

Beaulieu and Ellis were named together on the 2nd all-star team.

Zach Obrien still 0 Penalty minutes for all his junior career......




http://www.rds.ca/lhjmq/chroniques/338098.html

[Beakermania*]

Originally Posted by Monaco88

Zach Obrien still 0 Penalty minutes for all his junior career......




http://www.rds.ca/lhjmq/chroniques/338098.html

So what you are telling me is that we still don't have the answer to the question:

Can he fight?

[NewHabsEra]

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

How many games are we talking here? Seven? And the kid wanted to come? Honestly, I don't see the big deal of using him...we are not talking about 30 games here....

Im ok with the decision.. All kids will have the chance to start on the same page next camp..

[Monctonscout]

Originally Posted by SergeConstantin74

Nathan Beaulieu was beat by Jerome G.-Leduc for defenseman of the year in the QMJHL.

Morgan Ellis had won defensive defenseman of the year 2 weeks ago.

Beaulieu and Ellis were named together on the 2nd all-star team.

Here is the full list...

Michel-Brière Trophy - Most Valuable Player
Yanni Gourde - Victoriaville Tigres (undrafted) WINNER
Mikhail Grigorenko - Québec Remparts (2012 draft)
Zach O’Brien - Acadie-Bathurst Titan (undrafted)

RDS Cup - Rookie of the Year
François Brassard - Quebec Remparts (2012 draft)
Anthony Duclair - Quebec Remparts (2013 draft)
Zachary Fucale - Halifax Mooseheads (2013 draft)
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts (2012 draft) WINNER
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads (2013 draft)
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres (2012 draft)

Émile « Butch » Bouchard Trophy - Best Defenseman
Nathan Beaulieu - Saint John Sea Dogs (Montreal '11)
Jérôme Gauthier-Leduc - Rimouski Océanic (Buffalo '10) WINNER
Xavier Ouellet - Blainville-Boisbriand Armada (Detroit '11)

Frank-J.-Selke Trophy - Sportsman of the Year
Ben Duffy - PEI Rocket (undrafted)
Zach O’Brien - Acadie-Bathurst Titan (undrafted) WINNER
Sébastien Trudeau - Acadie-Bathurst Titan (undrafted)

Michael-Bossy Trophy - Top Professional Prospect
Martin Frk - Halifax Mooseheads (2012 draft)
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts (2012 draft) WINNER
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres (2012 draft)

Marcel-Robert Trophy - TELUS Scholastic Player of the Year
Jonathan Brunelle - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles (undrafted) WINNER
Patrick Delisle-Houde - Moncton Wildcats (undrafted)
Jean-Philippe Mathieu - Rimouski Océanic (undrafted)
Michaël Bournival - Shawinigan Cataractes (Colorado '10, traded to Montreal)
Yanni Gourde - Victoriaville Tigres (undrafted)

Ron-Lapointe Trophy - Coach of the Year
Gérard Gallant - Saint John Sea Dogs
Jean-François Houle - Blainville-Boisbriand Armada WINNER
Patrick Roy - Quebec Remparts

Maurice-Filion Trophy - General Manager of the Year
Joël Bouchard - Blainville-Boisbriand Armada WINNER
Martin Mondou - Shawinigan Cataractes
Patrick Roy - Quebec Remparts

Paul-Dumont Trophy - Personality of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts (2012 draft)
Jonathan Huberdeau - Saint John Sea Dogs (Florida '11) WINNER
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads (2013 draft)

Michel-Bergeron Trophy - Offensive Rookie of the Year
Anthony Duclair - Quebec Remparts (2013 draft)
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts (2012 draft) WINNER
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads (2013 draft)

Raymond-Lagacé Trophy - Defensive Rookie of the Year
François Brassard - Quebec Remparts (2012 draft)
Zachary Fucale - Halifax Mooseheads (2013 draft) WINNER
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres (2012 draft)

Guy-Carbonneau Trophy - Best defensive forward
Maximilien LeSieur - Shawinigan Cataractes (undrafted)
Stephen MacAuley - Saint John Sea Dogs (St Louis '10)
Frédérick Roy - Quebec Remparts (undrafted) WINNER

Kevin-Lowe Trophy - Best defensive defenseman
Pierre Durepos - Saint John Sea Dogs (undrafted)
Morgan Ellis - Shawinigan Cataractes (Montreal '10) WINNER
Martin Lefebvre - Quebec Remparts (undrafted)

1st All-Star Team:

Yanni Gourde - Mikhail Grigorenko - Frederick Roy
Jerome G.-Leduc - Xavier Ouellet
Roman Will

2nd All-Star Team:

Jonathan Huberdeau - Zach O'Brien - Sebastien Trudeau
Morgan Ellis - Nathan Beaulieu
Mathieu Corbeil

Rookie All-Star Team:

Anthony Duclair - Mikhail Grigorenko - Sven Andrighetto
Samuel Morin - Nikolas Brouillard
Zach Fucale

[Watsatheo]

Originally Posted by Whitesnake

How many games are we talking here? Seven? And the kid wanted to come? Honestly, I don't see the big deal of using him...we are not talking about 30 games here....

Habs hate the Bulldogs. I still remember a time when Dogs fans were mad that the Habs let Halak go to the WC and started Price in the AHL out of junior. I wonder what they are thinking now.

[montreal]

Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan

Marc Antoine Godin ‏ @MAGodin
For those wondering, Brendan Gallagher wasn't brought up to Hamilton Bulldogs because #Habs thought he had played enough games this year.

weak, at the very least they should have sent him just to work out with the team, get to know some of the players for next season, get a small taste of what he can expect in the AHL next season.

[HCH]

I can't really understand all the fuss surrounding Gallagher. The Habs are acutely aware of what he can do and Hamilton is just a smorgasbord of players right now. With a new GM coming to Montreal we could even see a coaching change at the AHL level. Why dump a guy into all that confusion when there is so little to prove? Seven games isn't going to accelerate or delay his development.

[montreal]

Originally Posted by HCH

I can't really understand all the fuss surrounding Gallagher. The Habs are acutely aware of what he can do and Hamilton is just a smorgasbord of players right now. With a new GM coming to Montreal we could even see a coaching change at the AHL level. Why dump a guy into all that confusion when there is so little to prove? Seven games isn't going to accelerate or delay his development.

It's not about his development. Do you think it's better for him to sit at home and play x box, or go to Hamilton and meet his future teammates while getting a taste of what he needs to do this summer to prepare for next season.

This is the first time I can remember in several years where the Habs didn't send a prospect to the AHL when their NCAA or CHL season ended.