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This seems fair... But Yakupov seems like he would really bring a special touch to the new rebuilding Columbus team. Other than that, Toronto might be over paying if Columbus can get another great player in that 5th pick instead of Yakupov. The pool is very deep
Perhaps you would be interested in trading away Toronto's 1st?
Here's an offer
To Columbus:
Toronto's 1st 2012
To Toronto:
Boll, Calvert, Weber, 3rd 2012
Overpayment by the Jackets.
Do Leaf fans really believe that if they put enough garbage together in a offer that the Jackets will bite?The OP's offer is just terrible.When was the last time that you saw the 1st overall pick get traded fo next to nothing. It just don't happen.
Overpayment by the Jackets.
Do Leaf fans really believe that if they put enough garbage together in a offer that the Jackets will bite?The OP's offer is just terrible.When was the last time that you saw the 1st overall pick get traded fo next to nothing. It just don't happen.
A top 5 pick, a former 7th overall and a potential top 4 is not garbage.
Overpayment by the Jackets.
Do Leaf fans really believe that if they put enough garbage together in a offer that the Jackets will bite?
The offer included moving four spots back, to fifth overall and including one of the Leafs top prospects, along with a young NHL defenseman. The offer was not lopsided for it to be "garbage" as you claim.
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Originally Posted by topdog
The OP's offer is just terrible.When was the last time that you saw the 1st overall pick get traded fo next to nothing. It just don't happen.
So I suppose Pittsburgh's offer to the Florida Panthers back in 2003 was garbage too? This in one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years? Yes the first overall pick was traded and it does happen, as illustrated in 2003 on one of the best draft years to boot.
2003 NHL Entry Draft:
Florida Panthers:
3rd Overall (Nathan Horton), 55th overall (Stefan Meyer) and Mikael Samuelsson.
Florida wanted to move back and was given 3rd overall, a second round pick, and Mikael Samuelsson to move down 2 spots. Based on historic facts on a similar trade, if Columbus really did not want to draft another Russian, then it is possible to trade down and getting one of the teams top prospect, along with a young NHL defenseman seems plausible.
The Blue Jackets can still select a top five player while gaining assets is good management. First overall does not always equate to franchise player, sometimes it’s just an all-star player nothing more.
A top 5 pick, a former 7th overall and a potential top 4 is not garbage.
It is considered when your trying to pawn them off for the 1st over all pick.
Top 5 is what it is, Aformer 7th overall that has done nothing in three yrs and a potential top 4 and you think this will get you a what most experts claim will be a star player.
Think ,your 1st,Gardner and 1 of Grabs/Kulomen/ Colborne and then the Jackets might consider it.
Lowball offer are just embarrassing and i seem to see a lot of that in most of the latest Leafs for the Jackets 1st threads.
If Toronto wants the first overall they will have to give something back a young established player and their pick +++. Currently they don't have that on their roster, don't say Schenn because he's had a terrible season.
Last time Burke traded for the first overall pick, in a weak 1999 draft, it cost him:
- 24 yr old defenseman Bryan McCabe with five years NHL service under his belt.
- 1999 1st round pick 4th overall.
- 2000 1st round pick 11th overall.
- 1999 two 3rd round picks.
The offer included moving four spots back, to fifth overall and including one of the Leafs top prospects, along with a young NHL defenseman. The offer was not lopsided for it to be "garbage" as you claim.
So I suppose Pittsburgh's offer to the Florida Panthers back in 2003 was garbage too? This in one of the deepest drafts in the last 10 years? Yes the first overall pick was traded and it does happen, as illustrated in 2003 on one of the best draft years to boot.
2003 NHL Entry Draft:
Florida Panthers:
3rd Overall (Nathan Horton), 55th overall (Stefan Meyer) and Mikael Samuelsson.
Florida wanted to move back and was given 3rd overall, a second round pick, and Mikael Samuelsson to move down 2 spots. Based on historic facts on a similar trade, if Columbus really did not want to draft another Russian, then it is possible to trade down and getting one of the teams top prospect, along with a young NHL defenseman seems plausible.
The Blue Jackets can still select a top five player while gaining assets is good management. First overall does not always equate to franchise player, sometimes it’s just an all-star player nothing more.
And that stupid move is STILL biting them in the ass today! They could have drafted Eric Staal.
It is considered when your trying to pawn them off for the 1st over all pick.
Top 5 is what it is, A former 7th overall that has done nothing in three yrs and a potential top 4 and you think this will get you a what most experts claim will be a star player.
Alexander Daigle was considered a star player before being selected first overall. You get a much better chance at drafting an all-star player first overall for sure, but there is always that chance that first overall does not pan out. To take this risk, a team will give up assets and their top five pick to move up, but they will not sell the farm.
Saying Kadri has done nothing is ignorant.
Nazem Kadri on the Marlies
GP G A PTS
44 17 24 41
Bobby Ryan on the Chops
GP G A PTS
48 21 28 49
Very similar numbers for their one "full year" in the American Hockey League before they got called up. Kadri still got 12 points in 29 games with the Leafs, so he is still on track to be a decent top six player in the next year or so. The Leafs are taking time with one of their top prospects, just like the Ducks did with Ryan.
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And that stupid move is STILL biting them in the ass today! They could have drafted Eric Staal.
A lot of teams could have put in a better offer than Pittsburgh did to get the first overall pick. Other teams could have taken Parise, or Getzlaf before he 17th selection, but they did not take either player. To say this one move bit the Panthers is wrong, as Horton helped the Bruins win the Stanley Cup this past year. It was the other moves Florida did including poor drafting in other past drafts that set the franchise back, not trading the first overall selection.
