Well that would match the performance tonight. How can you really report on no shows.
Which Oilers even cared about the game tonight. Just pathetic effort.
WE don't do well when the other club gets hammering us.
On a night when Eager and Hordichuk are getting hammered you know its going to be bad for everybody.
Sutton? Saving yourself for what? Go hit something.
Gagner? jebus. What a putrid performance. Instead of being a little whiny ass all night maybe battle back.
**** this team is bad without Taylor Hall.
Nights this like this is kinda why I would favor Dumba over Murray if a D-Man is the selection. Hall is the only one on this squad that really plays with fire most every night, Dumba would at least give him some company.
Well that would match the performance tonight. How can you really report on no shows.
Which Oilers even cared about the game tonight. Just pathetic effort.
WE don't do well when the other club gets hammering us.
On a night when Eager and Hordichuk are getting hammered you know its going to be bad for everybody.
Sutton? Saving yourself for what? Go hit something.
Gagner? jebus. What a putrid performance. Instead of being a little whiny ass all night maybe battle back.
**** this team is bad without Taylor Hall.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'd make Hall the captain next year. Not only because he is the team's emotional leader on the ice, but as a message to the veterans that they aren't getting the job done and it's time to look to others as far as where this team needs to get to in terms of effort, leadership, and on ice performance.
Well that would match the performance tonight. How can you really report on no shows.
Which Oilers even cared about the game tonight. Just pathetic effort.
WE don't do well when the other club gets hammering us.
On a night when Eager and Hordichuk are getting hammered you know its going to be bad for everybody.
Sutton? Saving yourself for what? Go hit something.
Gagner? jebus. What a putrid performance. Instead of being a little whiny ass all night maybe battle back.
**** this team is bad without Taylor Hall.
When Brown destroyed Smid and Petry on the same shift you could hear the sound of a certain part of the Oiler's anatomy pucker...might have been drowned out by Gagner's constant whining.
Ah Tencer just said Belanger and Eager should just be bought out. Admit the mistakes and just be done with them. Renney apparently has also brought up that the vets have had a hard time adjusting to new roles. Tencer muses it might just be easier to let the kids play with people of their own age because they seem to be the only ones who bring it everyday. Brown brings Smyth's name up and possible new contract and they both just kind of go quite.
Generally I listen to the Calgary call in show for this kind of comedy after bad loses.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'd make Hall the captain next year. Not only because he is the team's emotional leader on the ice, but as a message to the veterans that they aren't getting the job done and it's time to look to others as far as where this team needs to get to in terms of effort, leadership, and on ice performance.
Yeah, theres an emotional quotient with a physical component that just isn't out there when Hall isn't in.
But really where was Sutton all night? Staring at ****? There was virtually no physical response tonight. When Jones is the only guy trying to hit back its going to be a long night. Even RNH tried to hit back. But precious little of it all night.
Kings were the hammer, we were the ever willing Nail.
IMO the end of season has spelled the end of his career as an Oiler. He will be moved at the draft. IMO he would have been moved at the TD but the optics would have been terrible after he lit the world on fire.
Yeah his future at this club is a little in question right now.
You have to wonder what his season would look like if he didn't have that stretch of 15p in 5 games.
We're talking about nearly a third of his season point totals in 5 games. Just nuts.
I mean, he's improved his FO's, he's improved his defensive game, so I won't say he's plateaued completely.
But his lack of consistency on offense is incredibly frustrating. I also think he's not good enough protecting the puck.
Tambo's got to make a tough call here. Keep Gagner and possibly see all and any value he has decrease next season (with a new contract) with us lacking secondary scoring once again or trade him and put the green Grigorenko/Galchenyuk in his spot. (assuming we pick one of them)
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The positive of this pathetic performance and the one against Dallas besides the higher draft pick is that this will almost force Tambellini's hand to make significant changes in the offseason coaching and personnelwise.
I was starting to get worried that the fools gold winning streak would give Tambellini a false sense of security into thinking that the team was ok going forward.
He should start by adding more players like Hartikainen to stand up against teams like the Kings, he was crushing fools tonight then he needs to work on the defense and bring in a goalie to push Dubnyk as if we didn't know this already. Oh and a strong #2C please, Gagner tries hard but he's just not cutting it, sorry Gagner fans.
As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't mind Brian Burke here. I think here (unlike Toronto) he'd have the core pieces already to work with and would put an emphasis on bringing in toughness to surround them with.
I actually agree with this to a degree. Some situations are taylor made for certain individuals. Toronto was not a good fit for Burke he does not build teams. He takes them to the next level, he takes what has been started then finishes and closes the deal. The building blocks are here and the Oil need to take the next step. Burke would surround the main blocks with the pieces needed to succeed and be a contender
because he would know what the Oil need and have the balls to go out and acquire them, instead of sitting on his hand and evaluating waiting and hoping all the draft picks pan out. If nothing else he would get bigger and meaner and this team would be hard to play against and the liberties taken with the kids would be few and far between.
Ah Tencer just said Belanger and Eager should just be bought out. Admit the mistakes and just be done with them. Renney apparently has also brought up that the vets have had a hard time adjusting to new roles. Tencer muses it might just be easier to let the kids play with people of their own age because they seem to be the only ones who bring it everyday. Brown brings Smyth's name up and possible new contract and they both just kind of go quite.
Generally I listen to the Calgary call in show for this kind of comedy after bad loses.
Tencer really doesn't even deserve to be mentioned on this board anymore.
Aside from that Eager has been a fat big bag of ****ing zero.
Nothing like seeing the Stars and Kings walk all over our backs every night and the maddest Eager gets is missing the latest Game of Thrones episode..
Oh well, maybe useless will smash a camera or something to make up for it.
I don't think that Tencer is quite as connected to that lockerroom as it seems. Regardless of how it looks on some nights (effort wise) this seems like a tight-knit group. When I went to the Phoenix game two weeks ago I was right up against the glass and everybody was having a good time and laughing during warm-up, even Belanger. Smyth was having a good conversation with Eberle at one point it didn't look like it was about anything pertaining to the game based on their expressions.
Every member of the team gave Hordichuk a gentle bump along the boards to congratulate him on the newest addition to his family.
Eager didn't play that night so maybe he's a lockerroom problem; I dunno.
Yeah his future at this club is a little in question right now.
You have to wonder what his season would look like if he didn't have that stretch of 15p in 5 games.
We're talking about nearly a third of his season point totals in 5 games. Just nuts.
I mean, he's improved his FO's, he's improved his defensive game, so I won't say he's plateaued completely.
But his lack of consistency on offense is incredibly frustrating. I also think he's not good enough protecting the puck.
Tambo's got to make a tough call here. Keep Gagner and possibly see all and any value he has decrease next season (with a new contract) with us lacking secondary scoring once again or trade him and put the green Grigorenko/Galchenyuk in his spot. (assuming we pick one of them)
If Galchenyuk is our pick you can't move Gagner. He is still at least a year away because of a lost year. If its Grigorenko then he's as good as gone. Just put him in between Hall and Hemsky and hope he doesn't get exposed to badly. Having those two on his wings will push the puck in the right direction most of the time.
Nights this like this is kinda why I would favor Dumba over Murray if a D-Man is the selection. Hall is the only one on this squad that really plays with fire most every night, Dumba would at least give him some company.
I've been in the Murray camp but i tend to agree with you. This team needs sparkplugs in the worst way instead it's filled with a bunch of choir boys and Dumba might be the remedy for that.
I made a mention of Hartikainen in my previous post, he was at least trying to hit everything that moved and little baby faced RNH at least tried to get at Brown, that's about it. Truly pathetic.
If Galchenyuk is our pick you can't move Gagner. He is still at least a year away because of a lost year. If its Grigorenko then he's as good as gone. Just put him in between Hall and Hemsky and hope he doesn't get exposed to badly. Having those two on his wings will push the puck in the right direction most of the time.
Please insert Hemsky's name into the bolded...one of those two has a 5 mill contract next year. The other should be part of a package. In no way should this team base a draft pick based on Gagner.
Yeah, theres an emotional quotient with a physical component that just isn't out there when Hall isn't in.
But really where was Sutton all night? Staring at ****? There was virtually no physical response tonight. When Jones is the only guy trying to hit back its going to be a long night. Even RNH tried to hit back. But precious little of it all night.
Kings were the hammer, we were the ever willing Nail.
I didn't watch the game, but it surprises me that Sutton was like that.
This is also coming from the guy who got to see the Carolina game live though, so I saw the raw, Angry Sutton beast in full form.
Luke Schenn is looking awfully appealing sometimes. Tonight may be one of those nights. I read a poster say he leads the league in d-men hits.
Do the Oilers have a true losing culture?
Hall seems to be the only one night in and night out who wants to win and is willing to do whatever it takes.
I'd say it isn't Eberle's game to play that way and count him as not a fan of losing like this.
They need NHL veterans, not Oilers veterans. They need the characters who hustle hard like it's OT in game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals every shift.
Smyth... isn't that guy anymore. He lost whatever drove him.
The Oilers need the Koivu, Fisher, Pronger, Callahan, Robidas, types.
More familiar names are: Gator, Chopper (Not Captain Penalty. The real Moreau, Marchant, Murray types.
The ball busters. Either their own or their opponents' when they're down.
Eberle looked dangerous at times tonight but he was a man on an island there. I loved when he almost embarrassed Mitchell and his d-partner in the 2nd... or was it the 3rd period... I can't remember. All of the periods looked the same tonight.
I gotta say it's starting to look like Hall is the source of a lot of our fire.
This is, IIRC, the 3rd time he's missed time with injury, and this is the 3rd time we have come out flat and nonchalant. We'll see if this continues but this first game isn't confidence inspiring.
We really need some character guys on this club that aren't under 25. Where the hell are guys like Smyth and Whitney on a night like tonight?
We know Horcoff isn't exactly the type of leader the other player would skate through a wall for, but guys like Whitney and Smyth are absent too.
I gotta say it's starting to look like Hall is the source of a lot of our fire.
This is, IIRC, the 3rd time he's missed time with injury, and this is the 3rd time we have come out flat and nonchalant. We'll see if this continues but this first game isn't confidence inspiring.
We really need some character guys on this club that aren't under 25. Where the hell are guys like Smyth and Whitney on a night like tonight?
We know Horcoff isn't exactly the type of leader the other player would skate through a wall for, but guys like Whitney and Smyth are absent too.
Deserves to be said but a guy like Souray shows up on a night like this. Good thing we didn't need him around anymore..
Tambo really failed to get this club the kind of help it needed.
Even Bad Penner looks good to my eyes on nights like this.
KIngs were giants against boys tonight. They so outmatch us physically. Oilers spent the whole night cowering in the corner. Embarassing.
Please insert Hemsky's name into the bolded...one of those two has a 5 mill contract next year. The other should be part of a package. In no way should this team base a draft pick based on Gagner.
Thats not what I was saying. You can't move Gagner if you don't have anyone in the system to replace him immediately. Otherwise you will have Horcoff centering the second line again. Unfortunately he is our only offensively skilled C other than RNH.
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