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03-31-2012, 12:44 AM
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Should the Madden games add the CFL

I believe they should. There would be a lot fewer teams to add then the extra leagues add to the NHL series. Some of the rule changes might be a little bit of work to put in, however I think that most wouldn't be too bad. I think this would only help them sell more copies


edit: Just to let you know, they would both be in the same disk. Not separate games


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I dont see why

There is a very limited demand for CFL video game football + It would cost EA more because they would have to secure rights to CFL franchises , Players , logo's , etc

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I dont see why

There is a very limited demand for CFL video game football + It would cost EA more because they would have to secure rights to CFL franchises , Players , logo's , etc
They do it for AHL CHL SEL etc.

Also, I guarantee they would be able to sell thousands more copies

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They do it for AHL CHL SEL etc.

Also, I guarantee they would be able to sell thousands more copies
Madden 12 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week of release.

They're good.

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If they could somehow develop a cheap downloadable version of Madden for XBox arcade or PS store (that didn't cost all that much to make) it would be doable. Creating something from scratch and charging $40 - $60 per copy would not be viable. CFL is only popular in Canada and with a market of 34 million I doubt you would sell enough to copied to recoup the investment in developing and marketing the game.

Maybe a cheap DLC -type feature ($10 - $20) you could buy from one of the online stores if you own a copy of Madden? basically copies the template of a Madden game but lengthens and widens the field and changes the rules. Even though it may not cost that much in terms of extra development, it still may not be worth it.

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Madden 12 sold 1.4 million copies in its first week of release.

They're good.
The NHL games do quite well also(not as good, but still pretty decent) and they didn't have to add all the leagues they did. It'd be cool for Madden to do it, and would make for a really nice feature. For a series that doesn't change much from year to year, you'd think adding something like that would be something they'd look into as it's such an easy change to the game.

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If they could somehow develop a cheap downloadable version of Madden for XBox arcade or PS store (that didn't cost all that much to make) it would be doable. Creating something from scratch and charging $40 - $60 per copy would not be viable. CFL is only popular in Canada and with a market of 34 million I doubt you would sell enough to copied to recoup the investment in developing and marketing the game.

Maybe a cheap DLC -type feature ($10 - $20) you could buy from one of the online stores if you own a copy of Madden? basically copies the template of a Madden game but lengthens and widens the field and changes the rules. Even though it may not cost that much in terms of extra development, it still may not be worth it.
This might not have been clear before, but I meant for them to be the same game. (Like the AHL is in the NHL games, and isn't its own game)

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The NHL games do quite well also(not as good, but still pretty decent) and they didn't have to add all the leagues they did. It'd be cool for Madden to do it, and would make for a really nice feature. For a series that doesn't change much from year to year, you'd think adding something like that would be something they'd look into as it's such an easy change to the game.
Because the CFL isn't relevant enough to the NFL to warrant the cost of rights to add it into the game. The AHL, CHL and European leagues are feeder systems to the NHL, and are littered with players who have rights belonging to NHL teams. Now that they're integrated into NHL's Be A GM mode, you get players who would otherwise be lost in the ether represented in a more lifelike game that enhances the product of the NHL. Basically, the presence of these leagues in the NHL series are twofold - they exist as playable standalone leagues yes, but they also make the NHL games better and more in-depth.

The same just isn't true of the CFL, and it doesn't have a big enough following to register on its own merit. In that respect, you may as well ask why the AFL or UFL aren't in the game. Not enough people care.

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Because the CFL isn't relevant enough to the NFL to warrant the cost of rights to add it into the game. The AHL, CHL and European leagues are feeder systems to the NHL, and are littered with players who have rights belonging to NHL teams. Now that they're integrated into NHL's Be A GM mode, you get players who would otherwise be lost in the ether represented in a more lifelike game that enhances the product of the NHL. Basically, the presence of these leagues in the NHL series are twofold - they exist as playable standalone leagues yes, but they also make the NHL games better and more in-depth.

The same just isn't true of the CFL, and it doesn't have a big enough following to register on its own merit. In that respect, you may as well ask why the AFL or UFL aren't in the game. Not enough people care.
I would argue that the CFL could draw an untapped market

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How big is that market?

Madden will add more to their already bloated sales by working on improving their existent gameplay than they will expending the equivalent resources and time in acquiring a CFL license.

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They'd sell a few if they added the CFL. A few though, not enough where they'd really care. Basically just throwing a bone to Canadian NFL fans

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I would say they sell thousands of additional units. I have talked to plenty of people that have bought no madden games (or maybe one or two, but not every year) but have said they would buy the game every year if they had the CFL. A CFL regular season game typically averages around 800 000 viewers (these are taken every minute (and I believe you have to watch for a minute to count) so they don't include everyone that is interested).

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I don't even think sales matter... it would be cheap, easy content that they could trot out and pretend was an upgrade, like EA does when they add some totally superfluous league in FIFA.

It would be cool, I guess, especially if you could sub them into your franchise mode.

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Also, on the topic of securing rights. I bet the CFL would love this, so they would probably sell them for relatively cheep.

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Aslong as it doesn't make the game a penny more expensive.

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I'm not familiar with the AHL but if it's just a minor league system where you can call players up and down, then it's pretty much like minor league baseball, which is why those systems are integrated into games. There is no minor league in football that you can demote players to and promote them to. Therefore, there is no need for the CFL in a NFL game

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Because the CFL isn't relevant enough to the NFL to warrant the cost of rights to add it into the game. The AHL, CHL and European leagues are feeder systems to the NHL, and are littered with players who have rights belonging to NHL teams. Now that they're integrated into NHL's Be A GM mode, you get players who would otherwise be lost in the ether represented in a more lifelike game that enhances the product of the NHL. Basically, the presence of these leagues in the NHL series are twofold - they exist as playable standalone leagues yes, but they also make the NHL games better and more in-depth.

The same just isn't true of the CFL, and it doesn't have a big enough following to register on its own merit. In that respect, you may as well ask why the AFL or UFL aren't in the game. Not enough people care.
This, those other leagues are also a relevant for international teams in hockey. Additionally the rule differences between hockey leagues are pretty similar, while the CFL and NFL are quite different so there would be a lot more work put into it.

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I'd be for it...that way, you could have NFL games in Canada! Wait, you mean to tell me that flopped?

It's clear that Madden's doing fine. No need to add the CFL.

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It would be nice but the CFL is not relevent to the NFL. Two different leagues with two different sets of rules.

I dont think EA would spend the money to buy the rights for the CFL for a very minor increase in sales. A majority of CFL fans I know buy Madden anyway so I do not see this boosting their sales one bit but more of a profit loss venture if they attempted it.

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The Canadian league? LOL

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They'd have to add other peewee leagues too.

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Is there really people out there waiting for CFL teams to be added before they buy a copy of Madden? I guess it'd be an ok feature, but it'd just be more teams I never play as.

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If I made a list of things I want added in Madden, this wouldn't make the top 100.

They still have improvements that can be made in franchise mode (ie working off the NFL Head Coach franchise engine to start) which IMO is the most important mode in the game.

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Could be fun for Be A GM mode... start off in the CFL and try to earn an NFL job?

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