Trade Rumors and Free Agent TalkTrade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.
This Year's 1st Overall pick (Yakupov) to Your Team [MOD: ALL Yakupov/1st talk here]
Schultz could just sign with Edmonton straight up.
If they tell him he's going to get 1st unit PP time and a lot of minutes and he looks at the forwards he'd get a chance to play with ...
He already lists Edmonton as his favorite city (lol go figure).
The player the Oilers honestly would want from the Ducks would be Getzlaf. I know Ducks fans may balk, but y'know that's the type of player it would take IMO to get real serious consideration.
You're right that it looked bad on the ice but I think it makes more sense to qualify the severity based on its physical effects afterwards.
Hall got his bell rung badly but was able to shake it off a week or so after the hit. That IMO makes it much less severe than, to use a recent example, Sedin's concussion.
suuuuurrrrre....
Grade 1,2, and 3 concussions..
I'm giving him a BIG benefit of the doubt it wasnt a grade 3 concussion..... despite my instincts to observe otherwise...
I'm not gonna get into semantics... but it was a severe concussion no matter how you cut it...
And what he's able to shake off a week or so later is hardly concrete info.., at the end of the day, he was shut down.
But if if makes ya feel better............................................ .........................
I'm giving him a BIG benefit of the doubt it wasnt a grade 3 concussion..... despite my instincts to observe otherwise...
I'm not gonna get into semantics... but it was a severe concussion no matter how you cut it...
And what he's able to shake off a week or so later is hardly concrete info.., at the end of the day, he was shut down.
But if if makes ya feel better............................................ .........................
You have to actually observe the victim in the case of concussions in order to determine grade of severity. You can posture like Hall did in the video without having a severe concussion. You are diagnosing Hall's grade of concussion based on a video clip yet you accuse another poster of not having concrete info. Your instincts are hardly a reliable tool for diagnosing concussion grade based on a video clip.
Edmonton should trade that pick for a great young defenseman. They won't be able to afford Yakupov, Nuge and Hall in 5 years if they all reach their potential.
Anaheim is in a really good spot to get Galchenyuk, who could become the best player in the draft and fill their biggest need right away. #2 center.
Tambellini had a **** eating grin on his face looking at Howson when Edmonton was picked. What a *****.
You have to actually observe the victim in the case of concussions in order to determine grade of severity. You can posture like Hall did in the video without having a severe concussion. You are diagnosing Hall's grade of concussion based on a video clip yet you accuse another poster of not having concrete info. Your instincts are hardly a reliable tool for diagnosing concussion grade based on a video clip.
Fair enough (sort of)... My instinicts were based on being trained heavily on the neurological system.. (chiropractor...)
{insert chiropractic joke here}
Undergrad in Kinesiology... including mechanism of sport injuries..
NOT saying i'm an expert.. but well informed on the topic...
It was definitely a serious concussion, but the witness' 'take' that he was ok a week later is still imo a weak supporting source of concrete proof of it being a 'nothing' incident...
Schultz could just sign with Edmonton straight up.
If they tell him he's going to get 1st unit PP time and a lot of minutes and he looks at the forwards he'd get a chance to play with ...
He already lists Edmonton as his favorite city (lol go figure).
The player the Oilers honestly would want from the Ducks would be Getzlaf. I know Ducks fans may balk, but y'know that's the type of player it would take IMO to get real serious consideration.
Wait, for the 1st overall? There is just no way. The difference between Yakupov and whomever Anaheim might end up picking is not Getzlaf. Yakupov himself might not even be Getzlaf. Even straight up, I don't see any way Anaheim would move Getzlaf to acquire that pick. You're not going to get a player like that in return.
Fair enough (sort of)... My instinicts were based on being trained heavily on the neurological system.. (chiropractor...)
{insert chiropractic joke here}
Undergrad in Kinesiology... including mechanism of sport injuries..
NOT saying i'm an expert.. but well informed on the topic...
It was definitely a serious concussion, but the witness' 'take' that he was ok a week later is still imo a weak supporting source of concrete proof of it being a 'nothing' incident...
Doen't fly imo.
So chiropractors work and study the human brain? Go figure
Wow there is a severe underrating of Schenn on these boards. I am a Leafs fan but by no means a Schenn fan but you are essentially getting 2 5th overalls for the 1st overall, plus 4 years of professional development of Schenn. Lets keep in mind that most defensive defenceman are not good at only 22 years of age and he will only get better with time. For me Schenn + 5th pick + 2nd round pick is the best we will offer for 1st overall, not that we need yakupov anyways
P.S. Gardiner is untouchable
Yes, he is... but he's regressed too much over the past season for Edmonton to have any reason to gamble on him... you don't trade a first overall pick for guy you're gambling will bounce back.
And "Gardiner is untouchable" is probably why there won't even be media speculation of Edmonton having any interest in trading their first overall pick to Totonto.
Even if Columbus agreed, I have doubts Nash would.
This is exactly why the Oilers need to grow their own stars in-house. And if Eberle/Hall outperform Nash what kind of salary will they ask for? Nash already gets 7.8 mill, lol.
It will be very hard for the oilers to give up a shot at Yakupov IMO. I think Tambi is going to be trying to put together packages involving Hemsky, Paajarvi, Gagner, 31st overall, prospects (Hamilton/Pitlick/Marincin/Gernat/Musil) to get another high first round pick.
I'm new to this, so feel free to critique. As a Coyotes fan I wouldn't be happy with it(I've been obsessed with Gorm this year, would hate to see him go before he even made it to the team), but there's no question we could use some scoring forwards...
I'm new to this, so feel free to critique. As a Coyotes fan I wouldn't be happy with it(I've been obsessed with Gorm this year, would hate to see him go before he even made it to the team), but there's no question we could use some scoring forwards...
Change Gormley, Boedker, and Schemko/Murphy to OEL and you have a deal.
Schultz could just sign with Edmonton straight up.
If they tell him he's going to get 1st unit PP time and a lot of minutes and he looks at the forwards he'd get a chance to play with ...
He already lists Edmonton as his favorite city (lol go figure).
The player the Oilers honestly would want from the Ducks would be Getzlaf. I know Ducks fans may balk, but y'know that's the type of player it would take IMO to get real serious consideration.
Since when is an 18 year old #1 or #2 pick winger [who has yet to even play an NHL game] worth an elite NHL center? Seriously?
I know it would be a decent amount to get the #1 pick, but Getzlaf? Yeah right
if i'm edmonton, i like this deal best. you get Murray, whom they need more so than Yakupov, plus the ability to swap for the next two years.
The way I look at it, NYI will be a lottery pick team in 2013 and the Oilers would have a shot at Nathan MacKinnon. NYI would get that scoring winger for John Taveres and would get a player to draw the fans back and might get them that new arena. Its a crap shoot for EDM with a possible great gain. What I understand the Oilers are more interested in Griffin Reinhart then Murray, he's more of a fit of what the Oilers need then Murray.
FOR THE LOVE OF G-D AND ALL THAT IS HOLY, STOP. ASKING. FOR. JOHANSEN.
Has anyone else noticed that CBJ fans aren't making proposals here anymore? We get it. We won't have Yakupov. We're bitter but we'll move on. This mishegaas just rubs salt in the wound. Quit it already.
__________________
Remember - when you're a hockey fan, it's not "reckless driving", it's "good forechecking".
"Viqsi, you are our sweet humanist..." --mt-svk on the CBJ boards
Thanks, Howson, for cleaning up MacLean's toxic waste. Welcome, Kekalainen; let's get good things built!