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This Year's 1st Overall pick (Yakupov) to Your Team [MOD: ALL Yakupov/1st talk here]
I'd give Gaborik and two 1sts for Yakupov. We could then afford to sign Parise AND Suter. Cue "Rangers at it again! Throwing money at stars!" I love it!
Staal Suter
McDonagh Girardi
Del Zotto Stralman
Erixon
Bickel
McIlrath
Lundqvist
Gustavsson/Johnson
I made myself hard.
I think if the Rangers called us we'd immediately say "swap out one of those 1sts with McDonagh, kthx" and Sather would be all "lol no way" and we'd be all "ok we'll take MDZ" and Sather'd be like "kthxbye".
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Trading up 4 spots isn't worth one of Fowler or Sbisa IMO. Both are already top 4 defenceman, and Sbisa has taken massive leaps and one of the few young players we have with a nasty edge as such.
Can't really see what Edmonton could realistic add to make me think otherwise.
We trade one of our young building blocks to move up 4 spots in the draft? Image the rolls we reversed but I asked for Eberle for you to move up 4 spots. You laugh at me until I leave the thread crying.
We trade one of our young building blocks to move up 4 spots in the draft? Image the rolls we reversed but I asked for Eberle for you to move up 4 spots. You laugh at me until I leave the thread crying.
Im not sure that either Fowler or Sbisa even come close to equaling Eberle, but this move would undoubtably fill your biggest need which is center depth isnt it? And you would be still left with 1 of your 2 young D studs.
Im not sure that either Fowler or Sbisa even come close to equaling Eberle, but this move would undoubtably fill your biggest need which is center depth isnt it? And you would be still left with 1 of your 2 young D studs.
All it's going to cost us is a brand new problem with blue line depth. We're not moving either of these guys just to move up 4 spots.
Im not sure that either Fowler or Sbisa even come close to equaling Eberle, but this move would undoubtably fill your biggest need which is center depth isnt it? And you would be still left with 1 of your 2 young D studs.
That may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that moving up four spots is absolutely not worth a very good young defenseman in Sbisa, in a draft that doesn't exactly have a proclaimed cut-off after that 2nd spot.
All it's going to cost us is a brand new problem with blue line depth. We're not moving either of these guys just to move up 4 spots.
Right then, I guess you can find that Center somewhere else, maybe hope for next year draft eh? Im curious as to how you plan to solve your needs at Center? I thought Grigs would be perfect.
Right then, I guess you can find that Center somewhere else, maybe hope for next year draft eh? Im curious as to how you plan to solve your needs at Center? I thought Grigs would be perfect.
All we do is get a center and lose a 20 year old top 4 PMD. Just counter productive. Holland deserves a chance.
Right then, I guess you can find that Center somewhere else, maybe hope for next year draft eh? Im curious as to how you plan to solve your needs at Center? I thought Grigs would be perfect.
In about every draft there is at least one player at each position that would solve one team's biggest area of need. That doesn't have GMs throw out every sensible idea of value and go for it. While free agency doesn't appear to be a solution this summer, there's always other options. And the draft is one even without this deal - first of all, because we still have a shot at that spot in tonight's lottery (), and secondly, because there's no guarantees that Grigorenko/Galchenyuk/Forsberg (although no natural center) will all be gone at the time of our pick. The most common ranking tends to not translate to the outcome of a draft to the degree HF seems to expect about every year.
Right then, I guess you can find that Center somewhere else, maybe hope for next year draft eh? Im curious as to how you plan to solve your needs at Center? I thought Grigs would be perfect.
Grigorenko or Galchenyuk won't fix that problem next year. Holland would still be the leading prospect for next season's roster, and possibly the season after that. Even then they have to beat out Bonino, who was pretty good when he was asked to center a scoring line with Bobby and Devo.
Is there nothing from the Oilers outside of the big 3 that could get it done?
Nothing. We have young Defensemen and a great prospect pool. I'm not high on Gagner so not him either. I would be willing to trade up but I cant remember a trade up of 4 positions costing a former 1st rounder who has 70 points in his first 2 years in the NHL by age 20.
Right then, I guess you can find that Center somewhere else, maybe hope for next year draft eh? Im curious as to how you plan to solve your needs at Center? I thought Grigs would be perfect.
Holland has developed very well up to this point, he'll likely be a 2nd Center in at most two years. Bonino made a huge jump this year and is good enough as 3rd C. We'll still have Koivu on the roster next year.
If we keep our 6th, we have a chance at Grig and Galy if they drop or Forsberg. It's not worth one of our best D to move up.
This would be an absolutely terrible deal for the Ducks, 4 spots is not worth Cam Fowler. Ducks may need center depth but their are much better ways to fill than than giving up your best young defenceman. Maybe try Peter Holland at center first? their is no reason he cannot become a 2nd center, maybe they cant draft Radek Faksa and go with Getzlaf, Faksa, Holland for the future, that would be very good depth down the middle.
Gotta give to get, and maybe im overvaluing Grigs? It seems I am.
you may just be underrating Fowler who alone could likely get a top 7 pick in this draft, so essentially its 6th and 7th overall for 2nd overall, doesnt make sence from the Ducks persepective.
Gotta give to get, and maybe im overvaluing Grigs? It seems I am.
I wouldn't want to move up 4 spots for Grigs anyway. He just seems like he wouldn't fit here on our team. Sure if he drops I'll take him. But to actually put in an effort to move up to get him??.... I'll pass and get a player that drops. We been doing really well with drop of players lately.
Fowler dropping out of top 5 in our laps and Etem looking like a GEM at the end of the first round. I have a feeling this year will be no different!
), and secondly, because there's no guarantees that Grigorenko/Galchenyuk/Forsberg (although no natural center) will all be gone at the time of our pick. The most common ranking tends to not translate to the outcome of a draft to the degree HF seems to expect about every year. 
