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What would it take to get Seto to Pittsburgh.
Untouchables: Crosby,Malkin,Staal,Fleury,Letang,Neal,Orpik
Prospects unotuchable:Morrow,Despres,Bennett,Harrington
Setogouchi only has 33 points this year and is on pace for 35. He will be better on an offensive force like Pittsburgh.
Maybe Tangradi + Kennedy + Strait + 2012 2nd.
PWF, 15-20 goal guy, #4-5 defenseman projected better than Rob Scuderi and a 2nd in a strong draft. Kennedy has 31 points and has played almost ten fewer games.
Setoguchi is on their top line..... you won't get him for Paul Martin...
Never said it would be a straight swap. Penguins have plently of defensemen as well as other assets that they would be willing to deal for a winger like Setoguchi.
Setogouchi only has 33 points this year and is on pace for 35. He will be better on an offensive force like Pittsburgh.
Maybe Tangradi + Kennedy + Strait + 2012 2nd.
PWF, 15-20 goal guy, #4-5 defenseman projected better than Rob Scuderi and a 2nd in a strong draft. Kennedy has 31 points and has played almost ten fewer games.
Staal has shown he can be a crucial cog in a Cup winner, Setoguchi has not.
Staal has played 6 fewer games than Setoguchi this year, but has 7 more goals and 13 more points.
In other words, not a snowball's chance.
It would be the only thing that makes sense to Minnesota... They just traded Burns for Setoguchi + and now he plays on their top line.. While his stats are not great, he has also been missing his #1 center for much of the year. Plus, Staal is playing on a top team, Setoguchi is playing on a bottom team.
Setoguchi has played well for the Sharks in the playoffs...
Morrow and Despres are untouchable prospects unless it's part of a package to land a player that's on a whole other level than Seto.
I can see why Martin isn't a fit in a Seto trade. Martin is a good player and gets way too much crap from people because he got off to a bad start this season. He's already rebounded from that bad start and is back to being the big minute, plus player that he's always been. I'd imagine the Wild still want someone younger with more upside if they deal Seto though.
Guys, he said something around Setoguchi for Staal. Obviously, it would be Minnesota adding.
Staal's a beast, and I don't see Pittsburgh trading him. I also don't see Minnesota having much to add, outside prospects and picks (which they do not want to give up).
Overall, I don't see how this trade would make sense for either team.
Even if they were rebuilding, selling off a young Setoguchi doesn't make much sense unless it makes them a better young team.
Pittsburgh fans won't like it, but something around Staal and Setoguchi would make sense.
Staal wouldn't go to Minnesota unless that lottery pick of there's comes back the other way.
Setoguchi is no where near Staal's level. Staal is an elite defensive forward with the offensive abilities to create his own scoring chances. Setoguchi is not on Staal's level.
At least everyone suggested is Minnesotan...that's just how the trade forum rolls.
But yeah, like everyone's said as much as Fletcher has built his team in a mold of Pittsburgh and brought in players from the Pens organization, I can't see anything built around Setoguchi happening. Not that Setoguchi's untouchable (although I do believe this would be selling low on a 24 year-old) but can't see him being traded for any prospects (already having a youth movement), Paul Martin in terms of age and contract (and I'm as big of a Paul Martin fan as you'll find).
It would only make sense to trade for Staal (which would be a Burns-type deal on Minnesota's end) but there's no rationale for the Penguins to do that.
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You think wrong then...Not even close to what Minn would want. He was a key piece in the Burns trade.
Yeah, but Niskanen is going to be reasonably priced, and brings a puck moving element that Minny, even with the Gilbert acquisition, lacks. I would also argue that Seto was added as a salary dump and was expendable with the emergence of Couture. The Sharks seem to have no problem moving guys they deem expendable...
But Niskanen is a decent 2nd pair dman who is having a great year... Maybe I just don't feel Seto is worth a king's ransom after two underachieving seasons...
