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plus I don't consider Eller a top 6 center, trading Plekanec would leave a huge hole
I can see the Habs drafting Grigorenko / Galchenyuk and putting Eller on the wing. I think Eller is better as a winger than a centerman. The only issue is whether he can finish as he seems to be snakebitten.
I can see the Habs drafting Grigorenko / Galchenyuk and putting Eller on the wing. I think Eller is better as a winger than a centerman. The only issue is whether he can finish as he seems to be snakebitten.
Not in my opinoin, he's done his best work this season thus far as a center. He's just a natural at that position. I would trade Plekanec simply because I do not want to pay 5 million for an elite 3rd line center which is the position I see him in ultimately down the line for us if we draft a center in the top3. Desharnais isn't budging from the #1 center position so far as he is way more gifted offensively than either Pleks or Eller, so there's that to consider as well.
It would take a very good proposal to let go of him though, in the end I'd probably keep him anyway despite his contract (not that his contract is a hinderence though because he is definitely a bonafide second line C). But if we draft Grigorenko, which is really what it comes down to, he could bring in some good assets for the future.
He is a 2nd line center on bad or mediocre teams. If you want to win a cup he is on your 3rd line and Chicago has this Bolland guy already there so no need.
Chicago still has all 3 of the top 3 centers they won a cup with. What they need to do is put the correct players around them. ...
Two things to notice.
1) The last game or 2 Sharp has begun to take some faceoffs (getting ready for the playoffs)
2) Chicago has several highly touted prospects at wing.
They will go with what they got this year and will have pieces in play moving forward.
He is a 2nd line center on bad or mediocre teams. If you want to win a cup he is on your 3rd line and Chicago has this Bolland guy already there so no need.
Chicago still has all 3 of the top 3 centers they won a cup with. What they need to do is put the correct players around them. ...
Two things to notice.
1) The last game or 2 Sharp has begun to take some faceoffs (getting ready for the playoffs)
2) Chicago has several highly touted prospects at wing.
They will go with what they got this year and will have pieces in play moving forward.
Third line centers don't put up 50-70 points per year.
He is a 2nd line center on bad or mediocre teams. If you want to win a cup he is on your 3rd line and Chicago has this Bolland guy already there so no need.
Chicago still has all 3 of the top 3 centers they won a cup with. What they need to do is put the correct players around them. ...
Two things to notice.
1) The last game or 2 Sharp has begun to take some faceoffs (getting ready for the playoffs)
2) Chicago has several highly touted prospects at wing.
They will go with what they got this year and will have pieces in play moving forward.
research is your friend. 5 straight years of 20+ goals...habs having an awful year - his wingers have either been traded or injured and he has had something like 45 winger combos. louis leblanc is on his wing now for **** sake and he still put up 50 pts. he's FAR from a 3rd line center
Plekanecs is a # 1 centre, not a third liner. He may not be a tier 1 centre but he reads the ice very well and has a very underrated defensive game. He would be a #1 centre on about 12 -15 teams. On a contender hes a 2nd line centre at the worst.
We would need a top prospect coming back, like Saad, and a pick. Not certain if Chicago is willing to make a move like that but Plek is our best asset, thus the return has to be high.
research is your friend. 5 straight years of 20+ goals...habs having an awful year - his wingers have either been traded or injured and he has had something like 45 winger combos. louis leblanc is on his wing now for **** sake and he still put up 50 pts. he's FAR from a 3rd line center
He is not replacing Toews or Sharp and as a shutdown (3rd line) center he is not better than Bolland.
People seem to forget that Sharp played a lot of wing the cup season as well. Also that the line combo's used in the playoffs spent little/no time together in the regular season.
He is not replacing Toews or Sharp and as a shutdown (3rd line) center he is not better than Bolland.
People seem to forget that Sharp played a lot of wing the cup season as well. Also that the line combo's used in the playoffs spent little/no time together in the regular season.
He is not replacing Toews or Sharp and as a shutdown (3rd line) center he is not better than Bolland.
People seem to forget that Sharp played a lot of wing the cup season as well. Also that the line combo's used in the playoffs spent little/no time together in the regular season.
What the hell are you even talking about? He isn't replacing Sharp because Sharp's on the wing. You need a second line center and Plek just happens to be great one. Even other Hawk fans disagree with you; everyone does. Just stop man. You clearly have never seen Plekanec play.
I really, really wouldn't mind him in Washington. Everything about that contract and style of play is exactly what the team needs for the next few years, until someone like Johansson is physically ready and experienced enough to try and take the role full-time, or Kuznetsov or whatever.
It's too bad I can't see GMGM having the nads to go for it.
Not because he is crazy talented but because the Habs have no one else even close to being a 1st line centre it would take an over payment.
An excellent young 2nd line winger + a great Centre/Dman Prospect
I am not going to list off names because I don't know how valuable your players are but the Habs need offense. Would be a brutal season with Desharnais and Eller as our top 2 centres though lol
Not because he is crazy talented but because the Habs have no one else even close to being a 1st line centre it would take an over payment.
An excellent young 2nd line winger + a great Centre/Dman Prospect
I am not going to list off names because I don't know how valuable your players are but the Habs need offense. Would be a brutal season with Desharnais and Eller as our top 2 centres though lol
It seems like the prevailing wisdom around here is that the Habs draft Grigorenko, freak the **** out, plop him in the NHL, and watch him walk on water. At least, that's what I got out of a lot of the Plekanec trade threads from earlier. Point is, many seem willing to cast him out, get value in youth for the Grigorenko era, and begin dominating all Crosby/Pittsburgh style.
It seems like the prevailing wisdom around here is that the Habs draft Grigorenko, freak the **** out, plop him in the NHL, and watch him walk on water. At least, that's what I got out of a lot of the Plekanec trade threads from earlier. Point is, many seem willing to cast him out, get value in youth for the Grigorenko era, and begin dominating all Crosby/Pittsburgh style.
I love high draft picks as much as the next guy but what are the odds Grigorenko walks into the NHL next year and contributes at more than a 3rd line level? I wouldn't put money on it and that is even going without saying Galchenyuk is probably higher on our list.
If we move Plekanec we can expect another top five pick next year IMO. Desharnais walked on water all season and we still sit in 3rd overall. Is Grigorenko going to be able to outproduce Plekanec while we cross our fingers hoping Desharnais repeats?
I love high draft picks as much as the next guy but what are the odds Grigorenko walks into the NHL next year and contributes at more than a 3rd line level? I wouldn't put money on it and that is even going without saying Galchenyuk is probably higher on our list.
If we move Plekanec we can expect another top five pick next year IMO. Desharnais walked on water all season and we still sit in 3rd overall. Is Grigorenko going to be able to outproduce Plekanec while we cross our fingers hoping Desharnais repeats?
I'm not saying it's going to happen either, I'm saying that I've seen far too many silly Habs fans convinced that it's going to.
Pleks is a #1 center on a bad/mediocre team and an excellent 2nd line center who can play every aspect of the game. He is one of the better defensive centers in the game who can put up 50 to 70 points / season (70 points with proper linemates. 50 points with garbage linemates).
