I couldn't care less what Mike Milbury has to say about anything. The guy's a proven idiot, who knows absolutely nothing about hockey. What I don't understand is how HE doesn't understand that.
The responsibility is on NBC, as far as I'm concerned. They knew what they were getting in him, but still gave him the job. I just wonder which one of his great accomplishments got him the job.
He's like: "Hey, I'm Mike Milbury and I'm the ex-GM of the New York Islanders. They finally fired me after I had ruined the team by making awful trades and giving out horrendous contracts to useless players, and I'm out of job right now. Can I come and work for you as a hockey expert, and give out my opinions about hockey, to all American people?"
NBC: "You sound just like the guy we're looking for. The job is yours!"
I couldn't care less what Mike Milbury has to say about anything. The guy's a proven idiot, ...
The responsibility is on NBC, as far as I'm concerned.
They hired the guy specifically BECAUSE he shoots his mouth off and says stupid things, IMO. He gets people talking about their (pretty sad) broadcasts. I say we let the CBC invade and take over all national broadcasts, just pipe it into NBC's feed. Let Hughson and the boys take over, Maclean, Edzo and Hrudy can do the intermissions.
BTW you forgot "Mike Milbury is the worst GM in NHL history ", not merely "ruining his team". The guy has the IQ of a carrot. Further proof recently when he got into some kind of altercation with a kid/parent during a peewee hockey game.
pucky: as to your first question, many people see what they want to see (including Pens fans sometimes). As to the chippy stuff, both Malkin and Crosby were involved in some of it earlier in the game so I'm not shocked by what Schenn did even though it was technically an escalation. **** happens.
The Lavs stick-breaking tantrum and lack of professionalism because we iced our 4th line when the game was over, there's no justifying any of that. He acted like a fool and paid for it, luckily. Hopefully all coaches can at like professionals in the remaining games. I include Torts and others in that. Personally I hate it when fans or coaches get out of line and distract from the players. That's why I don't have a problem with Hartnell taunting the Hulk Hogan wannabe guy...
Travis: IMO the refs completely lost control of that game; that's why the Schenn stuff and everything that followed happened. Those refs were ****ing pathetic. Missing calls on both sides, limp-wristing stuff at the end. ****ing TAKE CHARGE early and set the tone, dumbasses. Either call it tight or let them play but make it obvious int he first 5 minutes which it is. And if you let them play then you better be willing to toss the first player who steps over the line.
I didn't see what Crosby and Malkin did so can't comment on that. But, none of the local sports networks showed much of what they did, fyi, so that seems interesting.
I agree with you on everything else. It's the officials' job to notice if things seem to be escalating and this is especially applicable when one team is up on another regarding the score. If the refs aren't calling blatant penalties, players get frustrated with that. What is really annoying is when officials miss obvious infractions and the types that annoy players, cross checks, punches, hard slashes and the like but then bogus calls are made here and there.
I won't be surprised if there's a few games of more of the same especially with the coaches. They don't seem to ever learn.
They hired the guy specifically BECAUSE he shoots his mouth off and says stupid things, IMO. He gets people talking about their (pretty sad) broadcasts. I say we let the CBC invade and take over all national broadcasts, just pipe it into NBC's feed. Let Hughson and the boys take over, Maclean, Edzo and Hrudy can do the intermissions.
BTW you forgot "Mike Milbury is the worst GM in NHL history", and THAT... is indisputable. The guy has the IQ of a carrot. Further proof recently when he got into some kind of altercation with a kid/parent during a peewee hockey game.
I didn't see what Crosby and Malkin did so can't comment on that. But, none of the local sports networks showed much of what they did, fyi, so that seems interesting.
Malkin put Giroux (I think) on the ice and when the play went the other way, he pressed his face into the ice a couple times. Crosby had a huge slash on someone (think it was Schenn), breaking his stick but the refs didn't call it. Was right as they skated past center ice... so, the whole game was a typical playground shoving match with each kid escalating as they went along.
I rephrased my comment but yah. Even if it's obvious, it feels good to say it because there's really no arguing the other side. The guy has a position he doesn't deserve in any respect so I say he's a great target to vent our frustrations. He deserves all the abuse he gets and more.
Just caught Crosby's interview on TSN, he was actually a lot more scathing than I'm used too. Saying stuff like "I finished my check during play, that's how the games played. (Schenn) hit me in the back. After the whistle. I guess I should have seen that coming [sarcastically]." He did admit that he did a lot of hacking and slashing in that game. Pretty fair assessment. Definitely not boring.
I know that this is the Pens boards but I just thought I would share my perspective as a flyers fan because there seems to be some misunderstandings... Having home ice advantage means more than fan support, it means that after stoppages in play, the home team is the last team to make a line change. This gives the home team the ability to matchup lines to their opponents (i.e. putting a checking line with the visiting teams scoring line). So from Lavi's perspective, and a flyers fans perspective, Bylsma sent his goons out there against one of our scoring lines in a 6-3 game with under a minute remaining, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, instead of putting one of his scoring lines out there to try and win the game (pens did score again). Not saying that Briere shouldn't have his head up out there or that the hit was dirty at all, but I hope it is more obvious to see where Lavi, the Flyers and their fan base's frustration comes from. Bottom line, it looked like a dick move on Bylma's part. But in the end I'm kinda glad it happened... great entertainment!
How many 3 goal deficits have been overcome with 1:15 left in the game? Just another reason why NOT to have a scoring line out there.
If James Neal was drilled cleanly in the last minute of a blowout I would wonder why the **** he was out there.
The main board is in playoff form already.
It was an incident involving the Pens, so I've come to expect the typical hate parade to be in full swing as a result. If it was Philly against another division rival then there's no way this whole thing is blown out of proportion as much as it has been. This couldn't be more evident than by the fact that so many people on the main board are suddenly praising Milbury's opinion. Most of these people were probably bad-mouthing the guy till no end prior to this game, but now suddenly he's so credible?
Just caught Crosby's interview on TSN, he was actually a lot more scathing than I'm used too. Saying stuff like "I finished my check during play, that's how the games played. (Schenn) hit me in the back. After the whistle. I guess I should have seen that coming [sarcastically]." He did admit that he did a lot of hacking and slashing in that game. Pretty fair assessment. Definitely not boring.
As calm as Sid is, I don't think even he has the patience to stomach just how idiotic Laviolette and Milbury's comments were.
Can't wait for tonight's game so we can talk about actual hockey again. There was a lot going on in that last game but the stuff at the end is getting main board-like attention around here.
I don't understand this delusion that coach Lavatory and certain Flyers fans seem to be harboring that a team that's down by 3 with a minute and a half left would put anything but a fourth line on the ice.
It's automatic. I didn't even look for it. I knew Vitale and Asham were going to be out there.
Its a great birthday for me. The Pens are hated again and could care less what anyone thinks. Good for them and let that hate from the rest of the league be what binds them through the playoffs. Screw Mad Mike... screw the Flyers... screw NY and Boston...
That chip on the shoulder attitude is back and was the one thing we haven't seen this year. Better late than never I guess.
What the hell is that? I like Lavs as a coach but I guess this is why he's been bounced around the league.
IMO all of the showmanship and calling out of the Pens players from the Flyers coaches is more about Lavs trying not to look like a softie. All of this starts over a clean hit, some slashes and some trash talking. Its hockey not polo.
Honestly not trying to troll. I've posted earlier in this thread any many fans agreed with me. But how can you say that when Crosby and Bylsma were saying that Schenn was "targeting a player" when all he did was give him a light cross check after being hit by Crosby?
That play happens 10 times a game and I've never heard it called "targeting a player".
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Crosby on Milbury: “You can really twist something a certain way and he’s obviously shown that he’s more than capable of doing that."
and my favourite:
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“As for me slashing someone,” Crosby said, “I guess I’m not a gentleman on the ice sometimes. It’s a contact sport.”
My favourite part about Briere talking about Vitale trying to hurt him was the part where he says himself that it was a clean hit. Hilarious.
Honestly not trying to troll. I've posted earlier in this thread any many fans agreed with me. But how can you say that when Crosby and Bylsma were saying that Schenn was "targeting a player" when all he did was give him a light cross check after being hit by Crosby?
That play happens 10 times a game and I've never heard it called "targeting a player".
That's a fair question. Honestly the Schenn cross check wasn't a big deal. It was a stupid, retaliatory play. The issue was when and how it occurred. It's one thing to cross check the guy right away and quite another to wait till their back is turned and are gliding to the bench. Pick your spots and do it the next time you are our there. Maybe "targeting a player" isn't the best way to put it, but he definitely didn't do it in the right manner.