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04-01-2012, 04:23 PM
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USFL plans to make a comback as NFL minor league

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-minor-league/

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The USFL is back.

No, it’s not an April Fool’s joke. The four-letter league from the 1980s that started with modest aspirations and then allowed success to go to its head, prompting a Trumped-up failed competition with the NFL and a successful lawsuit that yielded just enough to buy 60 percent of a five-dollar footlong, plans to return as a true NFL minor league.

52-year-old Jamie Cuadra has acquired the brand, and he plans to launch a cost-conscious league with teams in cities that have neither pro football nor major league baseball.
I hope this works out. I have my doubts, but it would be nice if players had a decent alternative to the NFL if it didn't work out.

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I hope this works out. I have my doubts, but it would be nice if players had a decent alternative to the NFL if it didn't work out.
Making the CFL what?

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I like the concept. Hope it takes off.

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I liked watching NFL Europe in the offseason. Not a bad alternative.

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Making the CFL what?
Same thing it's always been. A horrible abomination.

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52-year-old Jamie Cuadra has acquired the brand, and he plans to launch a cost-conscious league with teams in cities that have neither pro football nor major league baseball.
Miami it is, then!

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Making the CFL what?
The CFL has always been a joke, never taken seriously.

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I like this but hhow will it work? Will it be like minor league baseball? Where players can be sent up and down? Will the NFL teams sign guys to contracts and assign them to their "affiliate"? Will they play the same time of the year as the NFL season? Lots of unanswered questions.

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The CFL is the second best football on the planet. I'm not sure how that can even be argued. Have at 'er though.

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And the CFL is lucky if they get more than 2 guys who stick on an NFL roster each year. They're the second best league because of their stability, not because of the quality of their players.

As for a new USFL, it's been proven multiple times over that this doesn't work.

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I like this but hhow will it work? Will it be like minor league baseball? Where players can be sent up and down? Will the NFL teams sign guys to contracts and assign them to their "affiliate"? Will they play the same time of the year as the NFL season? Lots of unanswered questions.
I hope this would be the case. Cost to run an NFL team would go way up, though, unless some sort of arrangement was reached.

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I hope this would be the case. Cost to run an NFL team would go way up, though, unless some sort of arrangement was reached.
I think it's just going to be a separate league, and NFL teams just sign players off that league when they please.

I don't think each team will have their own minor league team(as I don't think they can sustain 32 minor teams), but more so that the USFL runs their own league, and as mentioned in the article, if an NFL team wants to sign player X off any roster, they can.

I imagine it would be an 8 or so team league first, with CFL type playoff rules (6/8 make it).

Funding is the issue, but this league could work based solely on the fact they aren't trying to compete with the NFL, rather be a feeder for it.

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I think it's just going to be a separate league, and NFL teams just sign players off that league when they please.

I don't think each team will have their own minor league team(as I don't think they can sustain 32 minor teams), but more so that the USFL runs their own league, and as mentioned in the article, if an NFL team wants to sign player X off any roster, they can.

I imagine it would be an 8 or so team league first, with CFL type playoff rules (6/8 make it).

Funding is the issue, but this league could work based solely on the fact they aren't trying to compete with the NFL, rather be a feeder for it.
Sounds just like what happened with the XFL, only they lasted 1 season and was poorly designed by a man(Vince McMann) who thought the XFL would put the NFL out of business by having a league that is "not for pansies". Sounds like on paper having a minor league football team would work but I doubt very much considering the market hold of the NFL in the United States is too strong even in places where the people are just lucky enough to see a game on tv where they live.

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The XFL was a nice concept it was just run as a big joke. No serious approaches were taken in that league. I mean, nobody went by their "real" name.

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I think it's just going to be a separate league, and NFL teams just sign players off that league when they please.

I don't think each team will have their own minor league team(as I don't think they can sustain 32 minor teams), but more so that the USFL runs their own league, and as mentioned in the article, if an NFL team wants to sign player X off any roster, they can.

I imagine it would be an 8 or so team league first, with CFL type playoff rules (6/8 make it).

Funding is the issue, but this league could work based solely on the fact they aren't trying to compete with the NFL, rather be a feeder for it.
It could work. You would just need to regionalize the league. Then the only time the 4 regions meet is in the Playoffs the 4 region winners square off. What i'm trying to say is have 4 different leagues but all play under the "USFL" moniker at the end of the day.

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The CFL is the second best football on the planet. I'm not sure how that can even be argued. Have at 'er though.
NCAA Football is better. The majority of the Top 25 teams could probably beat every CFL team.

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Don't see it working. The only reason the USFL had any popularity was by signing big names out of college. Steve Young and Herschel Walker out of college much to the demise of their bottom line.

NFL teams already have a practice squad. I just don't see it being financially stable.

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NCAA Football is better. The majority of the Top 25 teams could probably beat every CFL team.
Since I have not seen the top 25 teams in the NCAA play the CFL teams, I will not make any kind if definitive statement, but I really have a hard time believing that relative children can beat the adults that mostly all came from that same NCAA.

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Since I have not seen the top 25 teams in the NCAA play the CFL teams, I will not make any kind if definitive statement, but I really have a hard time believing that relative children can beat the adults that mostly all came from that same NCAA.
but many of the players on the top 25 teams are NFL bound. if Florida, Alabama, LSU, USC, Ohio State, etc. played a CFL team, I'd put my money on an NCAA team any day

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Top 25 team can definitely beat a CFL team. Besides, different rules don't really make the CFL conducive as a "feeder" league (which is fine, as the CFL is not trying to be a feeder league).

The UFL is up and running so this is a horrible time to do this. UFL stinks, but a lot of the second tier guys who are still hanging on to an NFL dream have taken roster spots there.

Its going to fail miserably.

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The CFL has always been a joke, never taken seriously.
Since it's coming from you, I can rest easy knowing it's not.

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Sounds just like what happened with the XFL, only they lasted 1 season and was poorly designed by a man(Vince McMann) who thought the XFL would put the NFL out of business by having a league that is "not for pansies". Sounds like on paper having a minor league football team would work but I doubt very much considering the market hold of the NFL in the United States is too strong even in places where the people are just lucky enough to see a game on tv where they live.
Pretty much this. The popularity and the media overhype that is the NFL will be too much for the USFL to withstand..for more than a couple seasons anyways..assuming this thing even gets off the ground.

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NCAA Football is better. The majority of the Top 25 teams could probably beat every CFL team.


YOu don't follow football much do you?

Most of those players on the TOP 25 teams don't even make the CFL, let alone the NFL.

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Pretty much this. The popularity and the media overhype that is the NFL will be too much for the USFL to withstand..for more than a couple seasons anyways..assuming this thing even gets off the ground.
Not if its as a minor league for the NFL like they plan it to be.

Thats where the UFL messed up.

I'm not saying making like the MLB minors or the AHL and CHL where every team has prospects and rights to those players. But they could do something similar to the NBADL.

In the NBADL most of those guys are younger players who went undrafted, cut 2nd round picks or old guys trying to make comebacks and are not property of an NBA team. However, NBA teams can send a few young end of the bench roster guys who get no PT down there so they can play opposed to sitting on the bench in a suit or dressing only to wave towels around.

The NFL can do something similar. A buncha of camp cuts or guys who never got a look can sign with the USFL and try to earn an NFL job. And the NFL teams can send Practice Squad or end of the roster guys who are usually inactive on gameday down to play and develop rather than stand on the sideline in street clothes.

For example the Vikings this year had two rookies, OL DeMarcus Love and DE D'Aundre Reed, who were healthy inactives for every game last season. Had there been a minor league of some sort they coulda went down and actually played some games.

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