Boumeester
Stajan (we eat his bad contract)
2nd rounder (for us taking stajan)
For
Grabner
Reasoner
4th
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NO! Why would Isles do this? Two bad deals and we give up a goal scorer... and yes, I think Grabs will be just fine long term. No way I would do this. Horrible deal.
Sounds like we don't have a deal. I hate his contract, but I personally think he is an upgrade over what we've got...and he still is fairly young for a d-man. It would depend upon what we had to give up. I don't think that would involve our lottery pick. I could see it involving Grabner and other assets going both ways. You have to give to get...or conversely, you have to take to give (take flawed assets to be able to give up flawed assets). As an aside, I am not completely sold on moving Grabner. He is flawed to be sure, but if he could put in 30 goals a year, that is a flawed asset that we could use. It all depends upon who is pushing from behind and who we could fill his slot with. Still, I would not be averse to trading him if we got something we need.
Not sure what happened to him after he left FLA. I thought he was on the verge of something, not that he really had put it all together at that time.
Bouwmeester+ Flames 1st for Isles 1st.
What say you!
Flameshomer: aptly named. Bouwmeester sucks. Not that you or I have aby say, but how about the Flames send their 1st rounder over along with Boumeester for taking that contract off your hands?
In light of this team possibly having to hit the 52 million mark (or something like that) to reach the cap limit, I personally would have no problem with Bouwmeester + Stajan + pick/prospect of decent value coming in return for Reasoner and a B rate prospect.
If they'd throw in the young Swede Backlund instead of the pick/prospect, I'd even consider throwing in Grabner instead of the B rate prospect.
The way things have gone in Calgary, I wouldn't be surprised if things are blown up a bit and whoever is leading that blow-up is ready to just move some bodies in order to free up money for entirely different players.
I wish we got Brian Campbell last year. Is he overpaid? Yes. Would he have made the Isles a better team? No question. IIRC all Florida gave up was Olesz who's rotting away in Rockford.
Same deal with Boumeester, you add him and you're already a much better team.
I wish we got Brian Campbell last year. Is he overpaid? Yes. Would he have made the Isles a better team? No question. IIRC all Florida gave up was Olesz who's rotting away in Rockford.
Same deal with Boumeester, you add him and you're already a much better team.
I agree, we should of tried harder to get campbell last year. For the right deal I would like to get a guy like Bouwmeester. Yes he is overpaid. However teams will not trade us players with no issues for the prices we are looking for. We need to take chances.
I wish we got Brian Campbell last year. Is he overpaid? Yes. Would he have made the Isles a better team? No question. IIRC all Florida gave up was Olesz who's rotting away in Rockford.
Same deal with Boumeester, you add him and you're already a much better team.
i think that he would make the islanders a better team as well. however, i wouldn't give up anything to get him and his two years at $6.6M per...not a single asset.
i think that he would make the islanders a better team as well. however, i wouldn't give up anything to get him and his two years at $6.6M per...not a single asset.
We can eat his contract for another 2 years, its not like he's got 4! With Streit for another year and Hamonic-MacDonald we'd have a legit top 4. Add Donovan or de Haan/Ness, someone like Matt Carkner and Reese as the 7th D.
Streit-Jay Bo
MacDonald-Hamonic
Donovan-Carkner
Reese
It gives extra time for prospects to take their time developing in the AHL, jrs or NCAA.
Dunno why, but I've always liked Jiri Hudler. Little logic to it, he's just a little guy whose game appeals to me.
If Calgary finds itself running a firesale, I would be curious about getting Bouwmeester and Stajan on the cheap.
By cheap I hope you mean like a third round pick. Bouwmeester would look terrible next to Streit. I'd be okay with him on the third pairing with a vet. (I don't want him mentoring the youngsters).
I'm not sure where to start with Stajan because I don't knoe much about him. Garth could gamble on him being our third line center, he might find his stride like past players on the Island. Wasn't he a big part of the Phaneuf deal?
I honestly don't know what to think of J-Bo. Has anyone ever seen Michael Peca's comments about his game? Also, if you look at highlights, he's not physical and doesn't even get excited for scoring goals.
We can eat his contract for another 2 years, its not like he's got 4! With Streit for another year and Hamonic-MacDonald we'd have a legit top 4. Add Donovan or de Haan/Ness, someone like Matt Carkner and Reese as the 7th D.
Streit-Jay Bo
MacDonald-Hamonic
Donovan-Carkner
Reese
It gives extra time for prospects to take their time developing in the AHL, jrs or NCAA.
so who do you think the isles should give up to land bouwmeester?
If we can take on J-Bo's contract, why not just hold onto our 1st and offer that money to someone who isn't terrible? I still think we should go into the offseason holding off on signing PA and using the money you were going to offer him combined with whatever else there is to spend on UFAs and offer pretty much all of it to Suter. If he shoots it down, then we focus back to signing PA and just go for a guy like Sarich.
I still think Snow needs to at least give it a shot. After last year's attempt on Ehrhoff, combined with all the money coming off the books this year, I will be surprised if he doesn't make a play for him(or Parise for that matter).
Sounds like we don't have a deal. I hate his contract, but I personally think he is an upgrade over what we've got...and he still is fairly young for a d-man. It would depend upon what we had to give up. I don't think that would involve our lottery pick. I could see it involving Grabner and other assets going both ways. You have to give to get...or conversely, you have to take to give (take flawed assets to be able to give up flawed assets). As an aside, I am not completely sold on moving Grabner. He is flawed to be sure, but if he could put in 30 goals a year, that is a flawed asset that we could use. It all depends upon who is pushing from behind and who we could fill his slot with. Still, I would not be averse to trading him if we got something we need
Not sure what happened to him after he left FLA. I thought he was on the verge of something, not that he really had put it all together at that time.
Jaybo does not hit,he does not rack up points,he does not block a lot of shots.
He does log a lot of mins.His minus 22 would match Streit's minus numbers this season and many NYI fans want Streit run out of town.
He's overpaid.If he were doing a good job,would he be available at 27/28 yrs old and yrs from unrestrcited free agency?
Jaybo does not hit,he does not rack up points,he does not block a lot of shots.
He does log a lot of mins.His minus 22 would match Streit's minus numbers this season and many NYI fans want Streit run out of town.
He's overpaid.If he were doing a good job,would he be available at 27/28 yrs old and yrs from unrestrcited free agency?
I don't think that's the case at all. I think most fans will tell you that he's elevated his play lately and is starting to return to form. After a year of being out with an injury, I think it would be wise to hold onto him for at least another season. On top of that he's going into a contract year. With the lack of established NHL talent we have on our blue-line, it would be very foolish to trade Streit at this point when all we would be getting are picks and prospects.
Worst case scenario we make Streit available at the deadline next season if we are out of it yet again. Best case scenario, Streit returns to his pre-injury form and gets a 2-3 year extension.
I don't think that's the case at all. I think most fans will tell you that he's elevated his play lately and is starting to return to form. After a year of being out with an injury, I think it would be wise to hold onto him for at least another season. On top of that he's going into a contract year. With the lack of established NHL talent we have on our blue-line, it would be very foolish to trade Streit at this point when all we would be getting are picks and prospects.
Worst case scenario we make Streit available at the deadline next season if we are out of it yet again. Best case scenario, Streit returns to his pre-injury form and gets a 2-3 year extension.
You're right.Streit's play has really improved since the trade deadline.
I should have said that many fans have pushed to have Streit dumped this season,before the trade deadline.So if they didn't want a disappointing Streit,why go out and get a $6.6m disappointment,like Jaybo?
You're right.Streit's play has really improved since the trade deadline.
I should have said that many fans have pushed to have Streit dumped this season,before the trade deadline.So if they didn't want a disappointing Streit,why go out and get a $6.6m disappointment,like Jaybo?
i would take him as an islander if the isles strike out in free agency (which they likely will) and if he costs the team next to nothing in terms of assets.
i would take him as an islander if the isles strike out in free agency (which they likely will) and if he costs the team next to nothing in terms of assets.
He'd be the NYI highest paid player.When you add a $6.6m player,he'd better be a beast on the ice.
That's not Jaybo
I hate his contract, but I personally think he is an upgrade over what we've got...and he still is fairly young for a d-man. It would depend upon what we had to give up. I don't think that would involve our lottery pick. I could see it involving Grabner and other assets going both ways. You have to give to get...or conversely, you have to take to give (take flawed assets to be able to give up flawed assets). As an aside, I am not completely sold on moving Grabner. He is flawed to be sure, but if he could put in 30 goals a year, that is a flawed asset that we could use. It all depends upon who is pushing from behind and who we could fill his slot with. Still, I would not be averse to trading him if we got something we need.
