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04-02-2012, 11:14 AM
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last night reminded me of how bad officiating is at times. Boyle was running around like an idiot and got nothing. thornton went out to talk to him and he got two. IMO either call it both ways or don't call it all. Boyle should have got two when he inserted himself between peverly and the ranger that pevs was pushing with if your going to be consistent as a ref.
i don't want the game to turn into a pansy match but please just be consistent.

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I thought it was a brutal call as well. I also though the Too Many Men call on the Rangers was soft. By the letter of the law you can call it, but he was a foot from the bench lifting a leg up to step in when the pass was received.

It's going to happen. I thought those two calls cancelled each other out.

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I thought the exact same thing when Boyle came in after the Peverley-Stralman shoving match. Seemed pretty inconsistent, IMO.

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Completely agree...Boyle was allowed to do whatever he wanted without consequence, Thornton did what he should have done, and I thought he did it within the rules of the game...there should not have been a call there. The players were handling it on the ice, and that should have been enough.

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It was a horrible call, it's not like Thornton started punching him, wow I'm glad the refs aren't that soft come playoff time and will actually let the guys play

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I thought it was a brutal call as well. I also though the Too Many Men call on the Rangers was soft. By the letter of the law you can call it, but he was a foot from the bench lifting a leg up to step in when the pass was received.
Agreed. The refs were all over the place last night.

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I thought the exact same thing when Boyle came in after the Peverley-Stralman shoving match. Seemed pretty inconsistent, IMO.
Alos agree. If you're going to let the boys play, let them play. If you're going to reel them in to make sure it doesn't get out of control, you gotta call all that stuff. If Thornton was guilty for trying to give Boyle a dance partner and running his mouth, Boyle was guilty for doing it to Chara and then Peverley. If he's not gonna back up his play and mouth with his fists, the refs need to give him a sit.

All we ask is for consistency!

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It was a horrible call, it's not like Thornton started punching him, wow I'm glad the refs aren't that soft come playoff time and will actually let the guys play
Van Massenhoven won't be officiating. That's the key.

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It was a horrible call, it's not like Thornton started punching him, wow I'm glad the refs aren't that soft come playoff time and will actually let the guys play
the refs are making it so you pretty much have to just start punching idiots like Boyle before they can be rescued, by penalizing Thornton the let Boyle go run at guys like Peverley, it's a joke

the Canuck Bruin game that vanmassenhoven officiated was the same garbage

thread on Vanmassenhoven in the main



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It's terrible. The edict was out a long time ago to tame the big bad Bruins. Boyle gets nothing with his Peverley antics, then Thornton wants to talk about it, and he's out. Should have been no penalties, or worse case scenario matching minors. Having Center Ice shows me a specific intolerance to the Bruins, for being the Bruins. Refs 100% of the time double up there, or since you don't call one guy, you let the other go, in any game that doesn't involve the B's.

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Here's the thing that I don't get about complaining about officiating....every fanbase does it and feels equally victimized. Is there really any advantage that comes from crappy officiating?

I agree that it's been a tough year for NHL officials, but when every fanbase *****es about it, doesn't it all eventually come out in the wash?

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Any time I see Van Massenhoven officiating a game, I know the calls will be very marginal and completely inconsistent.

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Here's the thing that I don't get about complaining about officiating....every fanbase does it and feels equally victimized. Is there really any advantage that comes from crappy officiating?

I agree that it's been a tough year for NHL officials, but when every fanbase *****es about it, doesn't it all eventually come out in the wash?
I agree that every fan base deals with it and that maybe no one has a real advantage going in, other than maybe some teams going for the 'teamsmanship' style of play.
But I think the timing of this stuff could affect outcomes.

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Any time I see Van Massenhoven officiating a game, I know the calls will be very marginal and completely inconsistent.
This.. he is the joe crawford of the nhl.. but joe crawford happens to suck at officiating two sports.

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Shawn Thornton received a penalty for being Shawn Thornton and playing for the Boston Bruins. Those kind post whistle confrontations happen 8-10 times a game. I just hope these reputation calls don't hurt the Bruins in the playoffs.

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Here's the thing that I don't get about complaining about officiating....every fanbase does it and feels equally victimized. Is there really any advantage that comes from crappy officiating?

I agree that it's been a tough year for NHL officials, but when every fanbase *****es about it, doesn't it all eventually come out in the wash?
You're probably right, but sometimes it just feels good to vent.

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Here's the thing that I don't get about complaining about officiating....every fanbase does it and feels equally victimized. Is there really any advantage that comes from crappy officiating?

I agree that it's been a tough year for NHL officials, but when every fanbase *****es about it, doesn't it all eventually come out in the wash?
it's not so much the crappiness itself that bothers me, it is more the blatant "neutering" that seems to be happening when the Bruins play, a game like the Ranger Bruins game last night showed all indications of some on ice fights occuring, the way Boyle was running around, etc., yet the instant any Bruin tries to call him on it the Bruin is in the box.... the same ref was involved in the infamous Bruins Canucks game a few months back where I think it was Thornton getting mugged by 4 Canucks at once by the benches and then the Bruins ended up shorthanded in that situation as well

the refs are taking away the ability for the game to self police itself, and instead creating a way more frustrating situation where guys are running around chipping and playing dirty with no accountability like the Boyle thing last night

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It's frustrating in the regular season. It will be unbearable if those type of calls/noncalls occur in the playoffs too.

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announcers 1st time around, Chara doesnt accept boyles invitation, ya OK i'm sure thats how it went down. i couldnt read lips, but boyle turned around after getting the slash & yapped something to Chara. You know Z said wtf are going to do about it. nothing.

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Here's the thing that I don't get about complaining about officiating....every fanbase does it and feels equally victimized. Is there really any advantage that comes from crappy officiating?

I agree that it's been a tough year for NHL officials, but when every fanbase *****es about it, doesn't it all eventually come out in the wash?
I don't like the "rough" calls the refs give the Bruins...it's hockey, and they let it go across the league night after night...

I pray they let more of that stuff go in the play-offs or we are dead.

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announcers 1st time around, Chara doesnt accept boyles invitation, ya OK i'm sure thats how it went down. i couldnt read lips, but boyle turned around after getting the slash & yapped something to Chara. You know Z said wtf are going to do about it. nothing.
He yelled at the ref...he wanted nothing to do with Chara.

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It does feel good to vent, I agree. But I also think there's some serious mob mentality going on when it comes to the officiating.

I agree that Van Massenhoven sucks, but he's been in the league since the early 90s. This year is the first time I remember hearing his name with any regularity, and it all stems from that Canucks game.

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I just know that a bad call is going to cost the Bruins a series at some point this year. I know the general rule is that the refs lay off in the playoffs, but the Bruins have been in their crosshairs all year and I don't see that changing just b/c it's the playoffs.

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He yelled at the ref...he wanted nothing to do with Chara.
did the announcers say chara declined. then changed there tune a bit later on the game, that both decided not too fight.

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Van Massenhoven won't be officiating. That's the key.
Clearly, he's this generation's Bill Friday. Occasionally I try to decide which was worse. And just as clearly, Van Massenhoven (which must be Dutch for incompetant idiotic excuse for a ref) is either much much worse or my getting older is decreasing my tolerance for jackasses pretending to be referees.

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It's terrible. The edict was out a long time ago to tame the big bad Bruins. Boyle gets nothing with his Peverley antics, then Thornton wants to talk about it, and he's out. Should have been no penalties, or worse case scenario matching minors. Having Center Ice shows me a specific intolerance to the Bruins, for being the Bruins. Refs 100% of the time double up there, or since you don't call one guy, you let the other go, in any game that doesn't involve the B's.
Agreed completely, shocking I know. That penalty was marginal at best and not needed in a game like that one. And to make matters worse they go 2 short on a garbage puck out of play penalty.

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