Anyone would look genius on the Canucks right now, IMO he wouldn't make the Oilers defence that much better.
This team would be better off with the pick long term.
You don't ever trade a lottery pick ever, it will always come back to haunt you.
Absolutely right. The Canucks fan is worried about losing Elder as he only has a year left before he becomes a UFA No way do we trade a top 3 pick who has cap friendly entry level hit for the 1st 3 years for a proven d-man with only one year left. If Elder had a 5 year contract then that would be different.
Edler is playing on a stacked team, the Predators wouldn't make the playoffs with out Weber and Suter, Suter/Weber would look even better if they were on the Canucks.
Edler is too inconsistent.
If the Canucks make Edler available, and we can sign him to a long term deal around $5M-$6M, i'd seriously consider trading our 1st rd pick. Not sure the reason for Suter or Weber being brought into this discussion, no one is arguing Edler is better than them.
I get to watch Edler quite a bit being out here in the Vancouver most of the time. He has steadily improved every year. Of course he will not be as good as Lidstrom, but he plays like a Lidstrom jr, probably at least 80% as good.
Speaking of Lidstrom, he was also on a Wings team that was stacked too. If the Canucks is stacked and being the top 2 teams in the league, you also got to think he is the best d man on the team and he contributed lots for the Canucks record because Edler leads the a top team in the league in ice time.
Edler being a 25 yrs old proven d man with room to develop, naming to all star team, good size, rocket shot, great puck moving ability, starting to play physical this yr, playing the most minutes on a top team, just coming into his prime (meaning we don't have to development him and suffered thru a young d man mistakes & growing pain), with at least another 5-7 yrs of prime left, and a #1 D being more difficult to find than a 2nd line center, i'd take Edler over Grigorenko, Murray, Dumba.
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so if we do take a center at the draft, what do you guy actually think we can get for Gagner?
Gagner+2nd for Gormley/Rundblad? Ellis?
I'm fairly confident opposing fans would dislike these.
Let me ask everybody this. IF the Oilers take Grig or Gal, I highly doubt they'll be in the NHL next season. Gal has missed a full year of development, and Grigorenko still has flaws to work on (Even Roy has come out and said he should stay in the Q for another season).
Would you still move Gagner and slot Horcoff back to the Top 6 or maybe move the Belanger Triangle to the Top 6?
I suppose Lander is part of the C depth as well. Hall-Lander-Hemsky. Doubt that happens. But it sure is better than Horc or Belanger up there.
Let me ask everybody this. IF the Oilers take Grig or Gal, I highly doubt they'll be in the NHL next season. Gal has missed a full year of development, and Grigorenko still has flaws to work on (Even Roy has come out and said he should stay in the Q for another season).
Would you still move Gagner and slot Horcoff back to the Top 6 or maybe move the Belanger Triangle to the Top 6?
I suppose Lander is part of the C depth as well. Hall-Lander-Hemsky. Doubt that happens. But it sure is better than Horc or Belanger up there.
I'd look for a free agent centre that we could sign to a one year deal before putting Horcoff, Belanger or Lander in the top six.
Assuming EDM gets the #2 pick and selects Grigorenko, something around Gagner for this year's 7th to 13th pick might work. A good looking group of d-men in that range:
7. Reinhart, MIN
8. Rielly, CAR
9. Trouba, WPG
10. Pouliot, TBL (two picks in 1st rnd)
11. Ceci, WSH (two picks in 1st rnd)
12. Finn, BUF (two picks in 1st rnd)
13. Maatta, DAL
Assuming EDM gets the #2 pick and selects Grigorenko, something around Gagner for this year's 7th to 13th pick might work. A good looking group of d-men in that range:
7. Reinhart, MIN
8. Rielly, CAR
9. Trouba, WPG
10. Pouliot, TBL (two picks in 1st rnd)
11. Ceci, WSH (two picks in 1st rnd)
12. Finn, BUF (two picks in 1st rnd)
13. Maatta, DAL
Hmm, I think we can go for a roster player here. A 40-50 point guy is worth more than those picks. I would trade Gagner + 2nd for both of WSH's firsts, but that's probably ridiculously lopsided ().
I'd do Reinhart (no.7 pick) for Gagner in a heartbeat and simply just slot in Grigorenko at the no.2 C next year.
I wonder if the Islanders may have interest, Gagner is Tavares' best friend and they may be tired of stockpiling picks. Gagner + MPS + Peckham for no.4 (Matt Dumba) + Nedrettier? I think the time may be coming for us to consider a shake up.
Assuming EDM gets the #2 pick and selects Grigorenko, something around Gagner for this year's 7th to 13th pick might work. A good looking group of d-men in that range:
7. Reinhart, MIN
8. Rielly, CAR
9. Trouba, WPG
10. Pouliot, TBL (two picks in 1st rnd)
11. Ceci, WSH (two picks in 1st rnd)
12. Finn, BUF (two picks in 1st rnd)
13. Maatta, DAL
Reinhart would be great but he is 2-4 years away from playing in the NHL. The Oilers need an established top 4 D man to step in now.
Reinhart would be great but he is 2-4 years away from playing in the NHL. The Oilers need an established top 4 D man to step in now.
Realistically if you're taking a d-man in the draft you have to expect they are 2-4 years away from contributing at the NHL at a significant level.
Even a Murray, lets be honest, yes he can play in our top six, just because we'll slot him in there most likely, but that doesn't mean he's going stop the D from bleeding goals or be able to control the game from back end any time soon.
Reinhart would be great but he is 2-4 years away from playing in the NHL. The Oilers need an established top 4 D man to step in now.
I agree with this.
I think this is the off season where we will need to consider moving some of our excess prospects for established players. Maybe some of our draft picks as well.
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I know I'm drunk right now, but damn Arnott in his prime would be the perfect guy in that spot. haha. Hall-Arnott-Hemsky
After his flukey little run fizzled out, he's back to having zero trade value. I'm really tired of people throwing out these crazy trade proposals that have his name in them. He's small, weak, and too inconsistent.
After his flukey little run fizzled out, he's back to having zero trade value. I'm really tired of people throwing out these crazy trade proposals that have his name in them. He's small, weak, and too inconsistent.
That it all.
Yaay another I don't like this player and because of that he has zero value thread.
believe it or not trade value doesn't disappear overnight. teams would gladly pick up a 40 point center that is only 22 years old that was drafted 6th overall.
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