The arena is located what seemed to me to be a loooong way from the genral population of the area. Just a guess, but that may impact the attendance, popluation density and availability of the arena?
Beautiful arena, though. Great experience I had there.
Thanks Derby. Maybe you're right. I hope it works out for them. If I was out there, I'd be there!!
I don't understand Phoenix. Their team looks good. Why are they in danger of losing them? Why aren't they there to support them?? They are in the damn playoffs!! I just don't get that....at all.
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Originally Posted by Derby
The arena is located what seemed to me to be a loooong way from the genral population of the area. Just a guess, but that may impact the attendance, popluation density and availability of the arena?
Beautiful arena, though. Great experience I had there.
The following people screwed up.
1) Jerry Colangelo and the powers-that-be that built America West Arena without an NHL configuration, even though it could be done and Phoenix was on a very short list for expansion or future relocation.
2) Steven Gluckstern and Richard Burke, who bought the team and put it into AWA anyway. The NHL configuration wiped out a good chunk of the lower bowl and made it so that 1/3 of the upper bowl couldn't see one net. For the sake of comparison, visualize Nationwide. Now imagine sections 219 and 201, plus 220-228, all unable to see the net nearest them at all. Now imagine that 2/3 of sections 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, and 101 were completely wiped out to accommodate the ice. Now also imagine that the seats in 101 and 117 would be angled in such a way that you'd have to crane your neck directly to the right and down to see that net.
3) Steve Ellman, for buying the team and bringing Wayne Gretzky on board. Those who think that Gretzky should be in any way involved with NHL operations need only look at the ineptitude of how he handled one single team. Great player, but if you put him in charge of Alaska, they'd run out of ice in a month.
4) Jerry Moyes, for buying the team and then handing them over to the NHL. He then violated part of the agreement that said that he couldn't take the team into bankruptcy, and did exactly that. This was where that bald midget Jim Balsillie got involved; he was behind the scenes telling Moyes that if he took the team into bankruptcy, he'd buy them out (covering Moyes' costs) and move the team to Hamilton.
5) The City of Glendale, which built Jobing.com Arena and had no rhyme or reason to how they handled any part of that before, during, or after construction. If they were put in charge of SETI, they'd be broadcasting messages advertising a docile population, many resources, and loose women for alien overlords.
6) The Canadian media. Because **** them, that's why.
No, fan support in Phoenix has never really been an issue. They had great attendance in AWA, all things considered (like missing half of the game based on sightlines). They had great attendance in Glendale, until Moyes/Balsillie decided that "legal contracts" didn't mean anything. That's par for the course for Balsillie, who if he were put in charge of the US Patent and Trademark Office, would actively encourage and fund piracy.
Well said, MB. Not putting the team near Scottsdale (which was an option) was also a big mistake. They lost many STH's by going to Glendale.
To continue the comparisons to central Ohio (for those who are still reading), it would be like deciding that Nationwide couldn't be downtown and had to be in a suburb. Dublin? No. Hilliard? No. Gahanna, with its easy access to the airport and 670? No.
The southern part of Reynoldsburg approaching Canal Winchester. That includes having to traverse the disastrous 270/70-E interchange, the nightmare Brice Rd./70-E exit, and the two lanes once you get south of the YMCA. Basically, right near where World Harvest Church is.
THAT is Glendale compared to the rest of Phoenix and the suburbs.
The following people screwed up.
1) Jerry Colangelo and the powers-that-be that built America West Arena without an NHL configuration, even though it could be done and Phoenix was on a very short list for expansion or future relocation.
2) Steven Gluckstern and Richard Burke, who bought the team and put it into AWA anyway. The NHL configuration wiped out a good chunk of the lower bowl and made it so that 1/3 of the upper bowl couldn't see one net. For the sake of comparison, visualize Nationwide. Now imagine sections 219 and 201, plus 220-228, all unable to see the net nearest them at all. Now imagine that 2/3 of sections 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, and 101 were completely wiped out to accommodate the ice. Now also imagine that the seats in 101 and 117 would be angled in such a way that you'd have to crane your neck directly to the right and down to see that net.
3) Steve Ellman, for buying the team and bringing Wayne Gretzky on board. Those who think that Gretzky should be in any way involved with NHL operations need only look at the ineptitude of how he handled one single team. Great player, but if you put him in charge of Alaska, they'd run out of ice in a month.
4) Jerry Moyes, for buying the team and then handing them over to the NHL. He then violated part of the agreement that said that he couldn't take the team into bankruptcy, and did exactly that. This was where that bald midget Jim Balsillie got involved; he was behind the scenes telling Moyes that if he took the team into bankruptcy, he'd buy them out (covering Moyes' costs) and move the team to Hamilton.
5) The City of Glendale, which built Jobing.com Arena and had no rhyme or reason to how they handled any part of that before, during, or after construction. If they were put in charge of SETI, they'd be broadcasting messages advertising a docile population, many resources, and loose women for alien overlords.
6) The Canadian media. Because **** them, that's why.
No, fan support in Phoenix has never really been an issue. They had great attendance in AWA, all things considered (like missing half of the game based on sightlines). They had great attendance in Glendale, until Moyes/Balsillie decided that "legal contracts" didn't mean anything. That's par for the course for Balsillie, who if he were put in charge of the US Patent and Trademark Office, would actively encourage and fund piracy.
Wow. Thanks MB. I understand better now. Still so sad.
