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Rick Nash + 1st overall draft pick in 2012 (mod edit: all such proposals here)
No one should want both Nash and Yakupov they both are first line RW so you would have to play one of them on the second line. It would be better to take Nash and a center as your first pick.
Rick plays both RW and LW for whatever that is worth
Being a 30 goal scorer who has hit 40 goals twice in his career.... And never seen the light of day with a team surrounded in talent to help him. Rick Nash could easily have 40 goals a season if he's surrounded with talented wingers and d man.
Not sure why folks are putting Price in there plus all of MTL's other young pieces to move up 1-2 spots in the draft.
1st overall + Nash for 2nd overall + Subban + Patches + B Prospect
I don't like Montreal and could care less about Columbus. From an outsider's perspective, the above deal seems fair. Columbus fans need to realize that Nash isn't that great and his contract does not match up with his production.. so any team that acquires Nash will need other parts of their team to out perform their contracts to make up for Nash and his inability to provide a physical presence while putting up 80-90 points consistently (if they expect to win).
Not sure why folks are putting Price in there plus all of MTL's other young pieces to move up 1-2 spots in the draft.
1st overall + Nash for 2nd overall + Subban + Patches + B Prospect
I don't like Montreal and could care less about Columbus. From an outsider's perspective, the above deal seems fair. Columbus fans need to realize that Nash isn't that great and his contract does not match up with his production.. so any team that acquires Nash will need other parts of their team to out perform their contracts to make up for Nash and his inability to provide a physical presence while putting up 80-90 points consistently (if they expect to win).
Value may be there but it just doesn't make sense for us to do it. Trading Subban creates a huge hole on defense, we would get Yak +Nash instead of Pac + Grig/Galy/Forsberg.
The salary difference between Nash and Pac is enough to offset their offensive output. Is the difference between Grig and Yak enough to pay Subban? No thanks.
Honestly I'm happy with the 2nd or 3rd, even 4th overall pick.
Price is getting way undervalued in this thread. Im a Leafs fan and im saying that
We're talking about a consistent 30 goal scorer here who has never had a great team to play for. He has had two 40 goal seasons on a bad team in his career. If he was placed on a playoff team he would easily prosper 40 goal seasons consistently and I'm not even a CBJ fan lol!
We're talking about a consistent 30 goal scorer here who has never had a great team to play for. He has had two 40 goal seasons on a bad team in his career. If he was placed on a playoff team he would easily prosper 40 goal seasons consistently and I'm not even a CBJ fan lol!
That's just an assumption.
Kessel has been producing just fine on a crap team with no center to play with.
If I had the first overall selection and was offered Price for it... I take that deal (before Price's recent concussion).
We're talking about a consistent 30 goal scorer here who has never had a great team to play for. He has had two 40 goal seasons on a bad team in his career. If he was placed on a playoff team he would easily prosper 40 goal seasons consistently and I'm not even a CBJ fan lol!
Patches has 30 this season. Lucky he was playing on the high octain offensive Habs and played with a top 1st line center and top 1st line winger.
I bet you if Patches played on one of the bottom teams in the league like Nash , Patches would be lucky to have 10 goals.
Seriously, what kind of intangibles does Nash bring that he demands Pac, Subban and a top 3 pick. He's a 70 point scorer.
Trades don't have to be "fair value" and no player "has to be traded." Thus, when a player like Nash is up for grabs he's only going to be traded for a supreme overpayment (as in Price, Subban, Pacioretty, and Montreal's 2012 1st for Nash, Mason, and Columbus' 2012 1st is). Obviously you'd have to be out of your tree to be making that trade from Montreal's perspective.
Trades don't have to be "fair value" and no player "has to be traded." Thus, when a player like Nash is up for grabs he's only going to be traded for a supreme overpayment (as in Price, Subban, Pacioretty, and Montreal's 2012 1st for Nash, Mason, and Columbus' 2012 1st is). Obviously you'd have to be out of your tree to be making that trade from Montreal's perspective.
Exactly. They might as well just ask for Crosby and Malkin.
Trades don't have to be "fair value" and no player "has to be traded." Thus, when a player like Nash is up for grabs he's only going to be traded for a supreme overpayment (as in Price, Subban, Pacioretty, and Montreal's 2012 1st for Nash, Mason, and Columbus' 2012 1st is). Obviously you'd have to be out of your tree to be making that trade from Montreal's perspective.
What would it take (from Montreal) to land Rick Nash and the 1st overall draft pick in 2012?
I would love to see a Yakupov and Nash tandem in Montreal!
What would it take?
Montreal would have to send so much back to Columbus for that deal that it would make Columbus the Habs. Just look at what Howson set as his price for Nash with the Rangers to get a feel (McDonagh/Del Zotto, Dubinsky, Stepan/Kreider, Rangers 2012 1st.) Then add the value of the 1st overall pick.
They will not be traded in a package together. Period. They would provide more value separated. Columbus doesn't need to get a higher caliber player into town, they need to bring in several solid players to improve the base and change the culture.
I would see Columbus taking the 1 or 2 pick and moving Nash for immediate and future help. While I don't see any way the Rangers cave on the asking price, I do think they are the best option for Columbus given their depth and young talent. 2 pieces and a pick is likely what the CBJ is looking at. I hope to god they can pry Kreider but I'm not holding my breath. Adding Kreider and Yakupov would be an excellent scenario for Columbus - along with the other pieces Nash brings in.
Everyone knew that Phil Kessel wasn't going to sign with the Bruins due to Boston's lack of cap space at the time, and he still returned two 1st and a 2nd rounder.
Players like Nash aren't going to be given away for scraps or a mediocre return. He won't even be sent packing for a slight overpayment on the side of potential - as evidenced by the Rangers' proposal at the deadline.
Point is, it wouldn't be a smart move by Montréal to move the assets that would likely be asked of them to get Nash.
They will not be traded in a package together. Period. They would provide more value separated. Columbus doesn't need to get a higher caliber player into town, they need to bring in several solid players to improve the base and change the culture.
I would see Columbus taking the 1 or 2 pick and moving Nash for immediate and future help. While I don't see any way the Rangers cave on the asking price, I do think they are the best option for Columbus given their depth and young talent. 2 pieces and a pick is likely what the CBJ is looking at. I hope to god they can pry Kreider but I'm not holding my breath. Adding Kreider and Yakupov would be an excellent scenario for Columbus - along with the other pieces Nash brings in.
According to Newsday and also Darren Dreger "Columbus GM Scott Howson rejected what is believed a Rangers' final offer of Dubinsky, 21-year-old defenseman Tim Erixon, 2011 first-rounder J.T. Miller, 2010 second-rounder Christian Thomas and a first-round selection in this June's Entry Draft."
That's FIVE pieces for Nash. It wasn't enough to convince Howson to pull the trigger. How could Montreal offer enough PLUS whatever would be needed to get the 1st overall?
