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04-07-2012, 10:25 PM
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didnt mean to quote you

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Boys what's faksa projected at right now?

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Boys what's faksa projected at right now?
anywhere from about 7-12 depending on where you look, it is not Faksa or bust in this draft, their are a couple other fowards who Buffalo could end up with

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Darn I really like faksa, gaunce wouldn't be bad either though

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What's to applaud? That result moves the Sabres down one to 12, moves Nashville's pick down one, and the Sabres second rounder down won.... basically they lose a spot in three different selection locations. It sucks.
Though we stayed away from #14, today went poorly for us. Ideally, we and Calgary would've lost in regulation while Colorado earned at least a point. That would've locked us in at 11, 41 and 42. Instead, we cost ourselves a draft spot--and won't it be the cat's meow when Washington swipes a good center at 11--and Calgary won and leapfrogged Dallas and stayed ahead of the Avs. Thus, we are locked in at 12, 42 and 44: a net negative by one, one, and two respectively.

Also, our Nashville pick took a major hit today. Had Detroit earned 2 pts, Philly beat the Pens, and Nashville lost, that pick would be on pace for #21--assuming the conference finalists are all division winners. Instead, they weren't passed by the wings and they leapfrogged Philly, so now their pick is on pace to be #23. So root for teams like Detroit, Chicago and Philly to make the conference finals and better that pick for us.

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Though we stayed away from #14, today went poorly for us. Ideally, we and Calgary would've lost in regulation while Colorado earned at least a point. That would've locked us in at 11, 41 and 42. Instead, we cost ourselves a draft spot--and won't it be the cat's meow when Washington swipes a good center at 11--and Calgary won and leapfrogged Dallas and stayed ahead of the Avs. Thus, we are locked in at 12, 42 and 44: a net negative by one, one, and two respectively.

Also, our Nashville pick took a major hit today. Had Detroit earned 2 pts, Philly beat the Pens, and Nashville lost, that pick would be on pace for #21--assuming the conference finalists are all division winners. Instead, they weren't passed by the wings and they leapfrogged Philly, so now their pick is on pace to be #23. So root for teams like Detroit, Chicago and Philly to make the conference finals and better that pick for us.
I dont think its anything to worry about too much, especially for the 2nd round picks. Their are basically 4 really good fowards and Faksa is a notch below. All will potentially(likely) be gone by the 10th pick. That still leave us good players in Gaunce, Taravainen, Grigenson at foward and possible Ceci or one of Trouba/Reilly. Also it could be worse we could be Calgary and be picking 14th and not having a 2nd. We are in a position where we could potentially move up a couple slots if DR really wants a guy, we have many possibilities for the draft.

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Not that it means anything but the last few 12th overall picks were

Murphy
Fowler
de Haan
Myers
McDonagh
Little
Staal


those are some pretty inpressive players picked at 12 in the last 7 years(doesnt mean anything)

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Not that it means anything but the last few 12th overall picks were

Murphy
Fowler
de Haan
Myers
McDonagh
Little
Staal


those are some pretty inpressive players picked at 12 in the last 7 years(doesnt mean anything)
Sweet, judging by that list, we have a great chance of drafting a good defenseman!

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Sweet, judging by that list, we have a great chance of drafting a good defenseman!
Hey if that picks ends up as good as most of them I will gladly take a defenceman

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I can't complain with #12... it's not 13 and that's all that matters!

In all seriousness though, the 12th pick should really add an elite prospect to the organizations pipeline, and I am really hoping it is a future franchise center. I really do think Pegula is going to pressure Regier into trying to move up... Regier did it before in I believe 2002 in order to draft Rick Nash.... And it being 10 years later and having Pegula as an owner who will want to make waves, he is going to want to make a splash... And with an extra 1st and 2nd, he could package all 4 picks, I think that should definitely get in the ~3-4 range just with the picks and possibly even moving into the top 2 where we would be guaranteed either Nail or Grigorenko.

We shall see, at least we can look forward to the draft.I'm hoping some major moves are made then, along with some big UFA additions.

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Though we stayed away from #14, today went poorly for us. Ideally, we and Calgary would've lost in regulation while Colorado earned at least a point. That would've locked us in at 11, 41 and 42. Instead, we cost ourselves a draft spot--and won't it be the cat's meow when Washington swipes a good center at 11--and Calgary won and leapfrogged Dallas and stayed ahead of the Avs. Thus, we are locked in at 12, 42 and 44: a net negative by one, one, and two respectively.

Also, our Nashville pick took a major hit today. Had Detroit earned 2 pts, Philly beat the Pens, and Nashville lost, that pick would be on pace for #21--assuming the conference finalists are all division winners. Instead, they weren't passed by the wings and they leapfrogged Philly, so now their pick is on pace to be #23. So root for teams like Detroit, Chicago and Philly to make the conference finals and better that pick for us.
why is washington picking 11?

edit : oh, the varlamov trade...

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Assuming the odds hold and CBJ wins the lottery, here is the top-14:

1. Columbus
2. Edmonton
3. Montreal
4. NY Islanders
5. Toronto
6. Anaheim
7. Minnesota
8. Carolina
9. Winnipeg
10. Tampa Bay
11. Washington (via Colorado)
12. Buffalo
13. Dallas
14. Calgary

It sounds like Isles fans are debating Murray and Dumba, so they may be taking a defenseman. I think there is a real possibility that two of Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, and Forsberg end up in our division to the Habs and Leafs. Both have a chance at the 1st pick, too.

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What is the likely hood that Roy gets dealt to a team like WSH, CGY, or CAR in a deal for their 1st? all 3 teams need a 2C very badly and Roy is one of the only ones on the market. If Roy goes to play for Canada and has a good tournament that could help his value aswell

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Assuming the odds hold and CBJ wins the lottery, here is the top-14:

1. Columbus
2. Edmonton
3. Montreal
4. NY Islanders
5. Toronto
6. Anaheim
7. Minnesota
8. Carolina
9. Winnipeg
10. Tampa Bay
11. Washington (via Colorado)
12. Buffalo
13. Dallas
14. Calgary

It sounds like Isles fans are debating Murray and Dumba, so they may be taking a defenseman. I think there is a real possibility that two of Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, and Forsberg end up in our division to the Habs and Leafs. Both have a chance at the 1st pick, too.
Actually the odds say Columbus doesn't win the lottery. They only have a 25% chance of winning and a 48.2% chance of getting the first pick. Which of Calgary or Dallas pulls the long odds and jumps ahead of us so we pick 13th?

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Teuro Teravainen game yesterday, he's been playing center for the last little while on their 2nd line as a 17 year old which is very inpressive.


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With the draft set to be held at TSN's studios on Tuesday night at 8 p.m., here's a run through of the percentages for all 14 non-playoff teams and where they can end up.

Teams Highest possible pick Next highest pick Lowest pick
1. Columbus 1st - 48.2% N/A 2nd - 51.8%
2. Edmonton 1st - 18.8% 2nd - 42% 3rd - 39.2%
3. Montreal 1st - 14.2% 3rd - 56.1% 4th - 29.7%
4. NY Islanders 1st - 10.7% 4th - 66.7% 5th - 22.6%
5. Toronto 1st - 8.1% 5th - 74.7% 6th - 17.2%
6. Anaheim 2nd - 6.2% 6th - 80.7% 7th - 13.1%
7. Minnesota 3rd - 4.7% 7th - 85.4% 8th - 9.9%
8. Carolina 4th - 3.6% 8th - 89% 9th - 7.4%
9. Winnipeg 5th - 2.7% 9th - 91.8% 10th - 5.5%
10. Tampa Bay 6th - 2.1% 10th - 94% 11th - 3.9%
11. Washington* 7th - 1.5% 11th - 96.1% 12th - 2.4%
12. Buffalo 8th - 1.1% 12th - 97.6% 13th - 1.3%
13. Dallas 9th - 0.8% 13th - 98.7% 14th - 0.5%
14. Calgary 10th - 0.5% N/A 14th - 99.5%

Just to be clear, that's the full range of possibilities for every team, so Montreal, for instance, can only wind up with the first, third or fourth pick.

Meanwhile, the teams on the low end there, like Calgary, are almost guaranteed to stay where they finished the year. Only three teams ranked beyond the top five, including the Devils a year ago, have "won" the draft and moved up.

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle2395293/

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So...you're saying there's a chance?

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What is the likely hood that Roy gets dealt to a team like WSH, CGY, or CAR in a deal for their 1st? all 3 teams need a 2C very badly and Roy is one of the only ones on the market. If Roy goes to play for Canada and has a good tournament that could help his value aswell
i like the way you think We'll see!

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So...you're saying there's a chance?
#nochance! I only posted it to show the actual percentages for every team. We've got better odds of being saddled with our old friend number thirteen than we do of eighth.

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Sabres Mock Draft

Now that we know approximately where we are selecting, what is everyone's mock draft for our first 5 picks?

1.) Brendan Gaunce- Center

Would prefer Faksa but I believe he will be gone by our pick. If Gaunce is gone I say we take either Colberg, Girgensons, or Aberg.

Gaunce Outlook-

You don't need to look far to know he is a heavy shooting big bodied forward who has a good work ethic. He has decent hands and a strong hard shot. Creates scoring chances and wins puck battles, and willing to knock the opposition right off the puck. His skating is an area that he needs to improve as he needs a couple steps to get into stride, and needs more mobility. Is strong on the puck and protects it well. Displays good vision and creativity, but his defensive game is a work in progress. His selection slotting is completely dependent upon whether he projects as a second line NHL center by NHL scouting staffs, or 3rd or 4th line.

2.) Henrik Samuelsson- Right Wing

Samuelsson Outlook-

He plays a responsible 3 zone game, is strong on the puck, and is the bane of any wall; corner or crease. Despite the inefficiency he showed as a speed player on bigger ice, he nonetheless is strong on the puck, and has the ability to dash out of the corner with a powerful stride. He projects as a future power forward with a heavy shot that he releases rapidly. Has very good stick skills and North-South speed. He needs work on lateral agility so his feet can take him to more areas where he can do damage. I believe the quickness will come with time. Did I mention that sonny boy also agitates his opponents to a high level of aggravation?

3.)Lukas Sutter- Center

Sutter Outlook-

The son of Rich Sutter is a defense-first physical forward and an above-average face-off man. Great hockey IQ but low pro ceiling as a possible third liner. His offensive game is improving and his heart will never be questioned. Moving up the lists. Someone to fill Gaustads role?

4.) Brady Vail- LW

Vail Outlook-

Strong, big developmental prospect who projects as a wing, but has seen time at center. Made huge strides this season in creating more chances, and gave a more determined effort throughout games. Has a set of gears and a very good skill level, which he has now balanced with a good defensive game. He is now playing with an edge and confidence.

5.) Andrew Ryan-Center/LW

Ryan Outlook-

Big center who plays a strong two-way game, but so far has not made a splash as a consistent scorer. Far from the finished product, he projects as a pro player based on his size, toughness, skill and speed. Strong defensively and a decent competitor in the battle zones. Suffered an ankle/leg break as the season started. A good passer, skater, shooter with good jump, but has yet to emerge as a prospect that stands out significantly in any one area over his peers. It is a given that he will fill out, so if he started to become more of an offensive generator he would solidify his status as a top round pick.

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Nashville up 6-1 now.
Thanks for nothing!
That means we have picks 12, 26, 42, and 44.

Don't forget that Colorado traded their pick to Washington.
11+16 would probably be enticing to someone because the two picks are relatively close together.
I would just like to point out that if we can have another draft like 2008, that would be fantastic (hey, you never know).

Pick 12 Tyler Myers (I don't care that we gave up a 3rd to move up one)

Pick 26 Tyler Ennis

Pick 44 Luke Adam

. I agree- at least it's not 13.

Pick 12 has been nice in recent years. Ryan McDonough, Tyler Myers, Calvin De Haan, Cam Fowler, Duncan Siemens

Ok, I see someone else pointed that out.

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56 views no post? Come on you guys have to be excited to have 5 draft picks within the first 60 picks!

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56 views no post? Come on you guys have to be excited to have 5 draft picks within the first 60 picks!
We only have 4 in the first 2 rounds...

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We only have 4 in the first 2 rounds...
5 in the top 72!!! Only thing you post is a negative one! Awesome!

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