I like Tencer's tweet. I wonder what type of discipline Leggo and Peel got for that performance last night? Probably nothing more than a few cold brews sitting in the officials room after the game. Just another day at the office for these boys.
Reffing this year is garbage, 1 pp a game is ridiculous... Game after game there's missed calls and it's not even just against us. I don't know what kind of orders these refs are getting but someones ****ing this league up. We've built our team around the new NHL and things are reverting back to the old ways with more clutch and grab and refs can now dictate games much more so. It's also annoying that the refs usually only call a penalty in the 3rd period after the games pretty much settled.
He called McGeough "retarded" IIRC. Not a word I like to use when describing people (call me PC if you want), but forgive MacT considering the guy he was talking about.
He also called him spasdic...I think just before the retard comment. I've referred to McGeough ever since as the Spasdic Retard.
BTW: I'm not trying to be offensive using that word on this post, I'm just reiterating what was said and what I think when I see McGeough.
I think there are a couple of reasons the refs are dumping on us...I think for one they blame mcgeoghs' retirement on the Oilers because of the no goal incident and secondly it is very obviously apparent they are gaming the standings. I imagine US ratings are down again and the nhl is trying to remedy this. There will be an all american SC Finals this year almost definitely so it is just a matter of where they need the ratings the most. Bettman is too effing greasy he needs to go. Shanahan is a tool and exactly what I expected him to be in this role. Hits to the head and concussions are a huge problem in the nhl these days...unless you are an Oiler.
This league is sheer and utter garbage. The reffing the last two years is the worst I've seen in any pro sport. It is literally ruining the game and then to fine him 10 grand for that?
I am really starting to hate the NHL, in a big big way.
You conspiracy nuts are hilarious. It's bad officiating, the league isn't trying to fix games.
Agreed, its just terrible officiating. That said, I would expect a slight bias towards the Kings last night simply because they are in a playoff race and the Oilers aren't. Slight bias turned into ridiculous gong show last night, thats the problem.
Renney should demand an audience with the head ref to watch the game tape before he pays the fine.
I still think in this day n age, there is absolutely no need for there to be bad officiating.
A dive should cost the player $10,000, because it tarnishes the integrity of the game. Lets see how many players dive then. Those dives should be reviewable by the league after each game.
If the NHL is going to have absolutely ridiculous rules in place to protect the optics of the league, the least they could do is actually PUT IN RULES THAT PROTECT THE OPTICS OF THE LEAGUE.
This league is sheer and utter garbage. The reffing the last two years is the worst I've seen in any pro sport. It is literally ruining the game and then to fine him 10 grand for that?
I am really starting to hate the NHL, in a big big way.
Ya I've really started to lose interest too. Specially as there are so many other activities and sports that cause less frustration than this BS.
Agreed, its just terrible officiating. That said, I would expect a slight bias towards the Kings last night simply because they are in a playoff race and the Oilers aren't. Slight bias turned into ridiculous gong show last night, thats the problem.
Renney should demand an audience with the head ref to watch the game tape before he pays the fine.
Agree only maybe his choice of words weren't appropriate and have been twisted. Why should there be any bias at any time whether in a playoff race or not? WTF just call by the rules. Not sure what the heck the little rule book is for other than toilet paper?
I still think in this day n age, there is absolutely no need for there to be bad officiating.
A dive should cost the player $10,000, because it tarnishes the integrity of the game. Lets see how many players dive then. Those dives should be reviewable by the league after each game.
If the NHL is going to have absolutely ridiculous rules in place to protect the optics of the league, the least they could do is actually PUT IN RULES THAT PROTECT THE OPTICS OF THE LEAGUE.
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening, because it would require the agreement of the PA in collective bargaining to implement a sufficiently punitive fine/suspension regime - and I just don't see the PA agreeing to that.
The PA already tends to step to the plate against "excessive" punishments that involve things like players injuring each other (which never made much sense to me, as the injured party is also a union member who should be deserving of the PA's attention). For something that has no direct effect on the health and probably only a very minor, indirect effect on their livelihood, they're not going to be willing to accept taking money out of their members' pockets. This is why there's such a ridiculously low maximum fine amount for players already.
Having said that, one interesting possibility would be to have fines for these kind of offenses fund the escrow account for the players - i.e. players who dive would effectively be subsidizing the salaries of their fellow players. I still don't see this as being something the PA would accept, though, as they seem take an adversarial approach to player discipline.
I still think in this day n age, there is absolutely no need for there to be bad officiating.
A dive should cost the player $10,000, because it tarnishes the integrity of the game. Lets see how many players dive then. Those dives should be reviewable by the league after each game.
If the NHL is going to have absolutely ridiculous rules in place to protect the optics of the league, the least they could do is actually PUT IN RULES THAT PROTECT THE OPTICS OF THE LEAGUE.
Fines and suspensions actually are applicable to diving and embellishment. But there's never even a penalty, let alone supplementary discipline.
Edit: Courtesy of Papaspud on a Letang diving thread.
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Originally Posted by Papaspud
It already is a video reviewable offence:
Per NHL Rulebook:
Rule 64 - Diving / Embellishment
64.1 Diving / Embellishment – Any player who blatantly dives, embellishes a fall or a reaction, or who feigns an injury shall be penalized with a minor penalty under this rule.
A goalkeeper who deliberately initiates contact with an attacking player other than to establish position in the crease, or who otherwise acts to create the appearance of other than incidental contact with an attacking player, is subject to the assessment of a minor penalty for diving / embellishment.
64.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who attempts to draw a penalty by his actions (“diving / embellishment”).
64.3 Fines and Suspensions - Regardless if a minor penalty for diving / embellishment is called, Hockey Operations will review game videos and assess fines to players or goalkeepers who dive or embellish a fall or a reaction, or who feign injury. See also Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline. The call on the ice by the Referee is totally independent of supplementary discipline.
The first such incident during the season will result in a warning letter being sent to the player or goalkeeper. The second such incident will result in a one thousand dollar ($1,000) fine. For a third such incident in the season, the player shall be suspended for one game, pending a telephone conversation with the Director of Hockey Operations. For subsequent violations in the same season, the player’s suspension shall double (i.e. first suspension – one game, second suspension – two games, third suspension – four games, etc.) See also Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline.
Trouble is the NHLPA had a problem with the League creating a "diving List" so the fines and suspensions part doesn't/hasn't been enforced as it should be. Hopefully this gets addressed with the upcoming CBA.
Last edited by The Bored Man: 04-03-2012 at 08:51 PM.
That seems like an incredibly mild statement for such a stiff fine. I guess when you're making $984 000 a season as a coach, it's only about a weeks' salary after taxes. For the rest of us schmucks it seems fairly steep though.
Just wondering...How come other GMs (Burke and Lombardi) who have thrown verbal hand grenades at the Oilers organization have not received any fines by the league? Just wondering.
He's got a point. The Ducks are out of the playoffs and the chances of both the Sharks and the Kings getting in are pretty slim, yet none of the california teams are a lock for making the playoffs yet... that's a ton of potential ratings, so it makes sense for them to help these teams when it comes to calls when they're against teas with horrible records like Edmonton.
He's got a point. The Ducks are out of the playoffs and the chances of both the Sharks and the Kings getting in are pretty slim, yet none of the california teams are a lock for making the playoffs yet... that's a ton of potential ratings, so it makes sense for them to help these teams when it comes to calls when they're against teas with horrible records like Edmonton.
Corrupt ********.
If this league is fixed how come the LA Kings have one of the longest Stanley Cup Droughts....
45 years if I am correct.... The Kings have also never won one.
The Ducks are the only team in the Southwest too. That might have been pure luck, They had some sure Hall of Fame players on that team.
The Kings have One Conference championship and only one Division championship(in the history of the franchise).... That is not a fixed league...
Last edited by damacles1156: 04-03-2012 at 10:08 PM.
I don't get why Shanahan is in charge. Former players should NOT be making these decisions. What if Shanahan hates certain teams from his playing days and decides to penalize them more? Just saying..
