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04-04-2012, 12:03 AM
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If I'm calculating correctly, the Sharks' magic number to clinch playoff berth is 2 points.

Sharks need two more points than LA to clinch division (currently one point behind, but one ROW behind, so need two more points than LA in the final games).


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Basically we have to beat LA in both games to win the Pacific. Unless LA wins one in the shootout and then we win the other in regulation by 3 goals.

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If we lose both games (please dear god no), is there any chance we still make the playoffs?

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If we lose both games (please dear god no), is there any chance we still make the playoffs?
Yup, Dallas just needs to lose one game and we are in.

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Yup, Dallas just needs to lose one game and we are in.
Basically all it comes down to is go Blues.

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If we lose both games (please dear god no), is there any chance we still make the playoffs?
Yuppers. Just look at the standings. IF the Sharks lose both in regulation (hence, zero points), they will be hoping that Dallas (currently at 89 pts) can't get 3 out of 4 points in its final two AND Colorado (currently at 88 points) can't win both of its remaining games.

Sharks are SOL if they end the season with 92 points (what they have now) and either Stars have 92 or 93 OR Colorado has 92.

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Yup, Dallas just needs to lose one game and we are in.
If Sharks lose both in regulation, and Stars lose, BUT Colorado wins both of its final games, I think the Avs are the 8 seed because two more wins for them gets them to 34 ROW's (we have 33 ROW's). Both teams would be at 92, but Avs would have the ROW tiebreaker.

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If Sharks lose both in regulation, and Stars lose, BUT Colorado wins both of its final games, I think the Avs are the 8 seed because two more wins for them gets them to 34 ROW's (we have 33 ROW's). Both teams would be at 92, but Avs would have the ROW tiebreaker.
But if Colorado wins one of those in the SO we'd beat them out on goal differential or points between the two teams, whichever comes first.

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If I'm calculating correctly, the Sharks' magic number to clinch playoff berth is 2 points.

Sharks need two more points than LA to clinch division (currently one point behind, but one ROW behind, so need two more points than LA in the final games).


http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm
You are not taking into account the Yotes. Sharks can sweep LA and still not win the division IF the Yotes win out as well. Yotes would have one more point than the Sharks in that scenario.

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But if Colorado wins one of those in the SO we'd beat them out on goal differential or points between the two teams, whichever comes first.
You are correct, I'm referring to the scenario where the Sharks lose two in regulation and Colorado gets two more ROW's. That's not a good scenario.

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If I'm calculating correctly, the Sharks' magic number to clinch playoff berth is 2 points.

Sharks need two more points than LA to clinch division (currently one point behind, but one ROW behind, so need two more points than LA in the final games).


http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm
But two more points than LA doesn't clinch the division is Phoenix wins both their games. If Phoenix wins out (and LA doesn't win out) they get the 3rd seed.

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You are not taking into account the Yotes. Sharks can sweep LA and still not win the division IF the Yotes win out as well. Yotes would have one more point than the Sharks in that scenario.
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But two more points than LA doesn't clinch the division is Phoenix wins both their games. If Phoenix wins out (and LA doesn't win out) they get the 3rd seed.
True, the if the 'Yotes go 2-0, they win the division unless LA sweeps us.

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Would you rather play the Canucks or Blues?

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Would you rather play the Canucks or Blues?
Cancucks, and AINEC is appropriate here.

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Would you rather play the Canucks or Blues?
Nucks, there is a slight chance we can beat them, especially with Sedin out. The Blues would sweep us. We might be able to take one in OT, but that's about it.

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Nucks, there is a slight chance we can beat them, especially with Sedin out. The Blues would sweep us. We might be able to take one in OT, but that's about it.
To be honest I think now the way the Sharks are playing, we might actually stand a chance. Winnik finally has his groove on and Galiardi just got the monkey off his back. The last two games the Blues beat us, we were without Havlat and our offense was playing like **** at the time. Now that all lines are firing on all cylinders I think we'd actually stand a chance.

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The team that doesn't trap.

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To be honest I think now the way the Sharks are playing, we might actually stand a chance. Winnik finally has his groove on and Galiardi just got the monkey off his back. The last two games the Blues beat us, we were without Havlat and our offense was playing like **** at the time. Now that all lines are firing on all cylinders I think we'd actually stand a chance.
Nah. The Sharks have a better chance against Detroit, Chicago, and Vancouver. Sure, those teams can light the Sharks up with their offense but they also open the game up. They're skilled teams who try to beat you straight up. The Blues, Coyotes, Kings, Predators on the other hand... yeah I want nothing to do with those defensive oriented teams.

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Nah. The Sharks have a better chance against Detroit, Chicago, and Vancouver. Sure, those teams can light the Sharks up with their offense but they also open the game up. They're skilled teams who try to beat you straight up. The Blues, Coyotes, Kings, Predators on the other hand... yeah I want nothing to do with those defensive oriented teams.
Yeah thats true. I think I'd like Chicago or Detroit in the first round. I think out of the Coyotes, Blues, Kings and Preds...we have the best shot at beating the Preds in my opinion. The Kings...man, if we struggled with them last year in the first round just imagine a full series with them armed with Richards and Carter and Kopitar actually healthy this times around. But yeah, you're right, we would do better against teams that come at you head on.

Like I said though, I think that if the Sharks keep playing the way they are now and if their powerplay gets a little more speed to it, than we still have a shot to go all the way, as crazy as that sounds.

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Nah. The Sharks have a better chance against Detroit, Chicago, and Vancouver. Sure, those teams can light the Sharks up with their offense but they also open the game up. They're skilled teams who try to beat you straight up. The Blues, Coyotes, Kings, Predators on the other hand... yeah I want nothing to do with those defensive oriented teams.
I really think once the effort level picks up in the playoffs, the talent level will start to show itself. The Blues, Yotes, etc. need to work all-out the entire season to get results because they don't really have the same talent level, while the Sharks were kind of throttling up and down trying to find the right mixture, plus trying to find chemistry.

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St Louis has "slipped" and not been playing as hard as a bit ago.


Regardless, I hope the Sharks **have** a first round opponent.

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Who thought we would beat the blues in '99?

I think if we go into the playoffs strong you can't count us out. You see the rosters on paper and to think Stl would sweep is absurd. Against Vancouver we are fighting firepower with firepower, which didn't work in our favor last year...

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In order to win the division we need Phoenix to lose one of their next two games and either

win BOTH games against LA or
win one in regulation by at least 3 goals and lose the other in the SHOOT OUT

that is the only case in which we have the tie breaker against LA:
ROW would be tied at 34
points earned in games would be equal at 7
we would win based on goal differential.

If we won one by only two goals then this would be tied as well. not sure what the next tie-breaker is... Let's just go for the two wins and not have to worry about this

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In order to win the division we need Phoenix to lose one of their next two games and either

win BOTH games against LA or
win one in regulation by at least 3 goals and lose the other in the SHOOT OUT

that is the only case in which we have the tie breaker against LA:
ROW would be tied at 34
points earned in games would be equal at 7
we would win based on goal differential.

If we won one by only two goals then this would be tied as well. not sure what the next tie-breaker is... Let's just go for the two wins and not have to worry about this
For this to happen the Coyotes would have to not earn two points without a regulation win since they could also finish with the same number of points and row but the head-to-head would not be the same for the three teams.

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If we're tied in points, what are the first 2 tiebreakers, 1) wins, 2)??

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