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Supreme Court Ruling Allows Strip-Searches for Any Arrest
Most people don't choose to be arrested, especially the innocent ones. How many people arrested are actually convicted of a crime?
That said, I think a metal detector and thorough pat down is more than sufficient in most cases.
Bit of a strech. You know how many people are arrested without being convicted? Just because you're not convicted doesn't mean there was no reason to be arrested in the first place.
The second part I agree with though. Said the same thing myself.
Bit of a strech. You know how many people are arrested without being convicted? Just because you're not convicted doesn't mean there was no reason to be arrested in the first place.
People arrested on suspicion of minor, non-violent crimes shouldn't be strip-searched. The end.
A metal detector doesn't detect plastic. Weapons can be made of plastic. This is discretionary by the officer too is it not? I also believe that you are strip searched in jail anyway before you are "admitted". Most police officers if you ask them, if done correctly and they know what they're doing, a simple frisk search is good enough. Cops aren't going to be going around strip searching people out in public because they made an arrest. Unless the suspect does anything to invoke suspicion, a strip search wouldn't be even warranted. If it is, it probably doesn't even happen until they're at a station/precinct/whatever.
Some of you people go way overboard.
I sincerely doubt the average citizen is walking around with a plastic shiv up their butt, and it's the average law biding citizen who accidentally commits or is falsely accused of a minor offense (this has already happened. see article) that will be violated most by this law. The whole thing is ludicrous. I think it's the Supreme Court that went overboard with this law.
yeah or in the case of the guy who filed this lawsuit, don't get arrested for not paying a fine that was actually paid. that's perfectly reasonable, that one should spend a week in prison and be strip searched twice for nothing.
the reason that people ridicule your posts is that you live in some black-and-white world and say simplistic, moronic things like "don't like it, don't get arrested."
yeah or in the case of the guy who filed this lawsuit, don't get arrested for not paying a fine that was actually paid. that's perfectly reasonable, that one should spend a week in prison and be strip searched twice for nothing.
the reason that people ridicule your posts is that you live in some black-and-white world and say simplistic, moronic things like "don't like it, don't get arrested."
He even had the court document showing the warrant had been taken care of at the scene. They still hauled him off to jail and lost him in the system for a few days. My guess is he was an ass once they still took him in and strip searched him, but that doesn't make it right.
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He even had the court document showing the warrant had been taken care of at the scene. They still hauled him off to jail and lost him in the system for a few days. My guess is he was an ass once they still took him in and strip searched him, but that doesn't make it right.
And he may well have had a BIG ass ____ after the search.
hey abner louima, don't want the cops to break your teeth, kick, grab and twist your balls and sodomize you with the handle of a plunger? don't get arrested!
Justice Kennedy really surprised me in his vote for this one.
Even someone under arrest for political protest, can now be strip searched.
We're talking the Grandma who's arrested for peaceful protest will now possibly be subject to strip searching, instead of being booked, fined or just released.
I didn't think the US could be even more idiotic with its Stand Your Ground State Laws but they've certainly fallen farther with this one.
Even someone under arrest for political protest, can now be strip searched.
We're talking the Grandma who's arrested for peaceful protest will now possibly be subject to strip searching, instead of being booked, fined or just released.
It already happened to a nun, according to the article.
You would think as the world becomes more informed and enlightened we would need less policing, but just the opposite is happening today. The clamps of control are tightening up.
There is so much evidence recently to the power structure's goal of an engineered police state. From news about DUI crackdowns, saliva testing, random searches and pat-downs. Child protection service enforcement and prosecutions. Medical marijuana laws being repealed. Drug testing for military veterans on disability and welfare recipients, etc. They may seem like minor invasions but things like this show a general trend toward criminalizing and controlling everybody in some way, controlling our body chemistry and minds.
Law enforcement gets a kick out of stripping you and looking inside of you. Look what US military did at Abu Gharib to amuse themselves and torture prisioners. It's the exact same thing to break you down and literally get under your skin. Again it may appear to be a small decision by the court but these little pebbles of disturbance build into mountains suppressing our liberty and sense of freedom.
I think it was a huge decision. I was completely shocked by the verdict.
Nothing, don't worry about it. Never mind. You're right, the police will only do this sometimes so who gives a ****, right?
You're awesome.
Seriously, if you don't like the law, like myself, don't get arrested. I can't believe some of you seem to feel that in itself is like a violation of your human rights.
Seriously, if you don't like the law, like myself, don't get arrested. I can't believe some of you seem to feel that in itself is like a violation of your human rights.
Yeah, totally. Who gives a ****. That nun had it coming. She's lucky she didn't get tased and beaten with a baton, right? You don't like it, don't protest ****, right? Yeah. Word.
Saying "if you don't like that law, don't get arrested" is like saying "if you're allergic to peanuts, don't eat food."
Seriously, if you don't like the law, like myself, don't get arrested.
you're a total mouth-breather huh?
try reading the story. the guy who filed the lawsuit was was mistakenly arrested - he had paid a fine but it was not recorded correctly. how'd you like to get a parking ticket, have the system screw up and fail to document your payment, then all of a sudden you're in county jail lifting up your scrotum so that the guard can have a peek at your taint? sounds awesome.
your idiotic statement "if you don't like the law, like myself, don't get arrested" could be used to justify all kinds of prisoner mistreatment. hey let's beat the **** out of this guy we just pulled over, his fault for not pulling over right away. don't want to get butt-***** in jail? don't get arrested at an anti-war rally. i'd continue, but the point should be obvious to anyone who isn't a moron.
Last edited by Ilkka Sinisalo: 04-05-2012 at 08:11 PM.
Seriously, if you don't like the law, like myself, don't get arrested. I can't believe some of you seem to feel that in itself is like a violation of your human rights.
The problem is if you are arrested - not necessarily being guilty or charged. Many people are arrested without being charged or guilty. I understand not wanting someone to bring in something dangerous into prison. But I think the odds of this happening are much much less (especially considering the use of metal detectors and pat downs) compared to the odds of arresting someone who is innocent. I think the ability for this right to be abused is much greater than any potential good that would come of it.
You're awesome.
