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04-04-2012, 01:13 PM
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What do the Leafs and their fans get out of the 'New NHL'?

Absolutely nothing I would say. They do not get to have many star players anymore, they are forced to give welfare handouts to teams that have few fans to begin with, and the current system prevents them from making the playoffs. Even worse, they get mocked and jeered by fans of teams that they are forced to give these welfare handouts to!

Fans in Toronto are paying steak prices for hot dog meals, and I would think they are getting mighty tired of it. Good Ontario boys like Tavares and Stamkos should be Maple Leafs IMO but Bettman's commie system prevents this. The Leafs wanted to sign Tavares but a certain New York lawyer forbid it! What nonsense . It is not only the Leafs that are getting the raw end of things either. Crosby was a Montreal fan but Bettman's rigged system forced him to go to Pittsburgh instead. Can you imagine if Crosby was a Hab and the Leafs had players like Stamkos and Tavares?

I think alot of long time fans are also getting mighty tired of being lectured by the johnny come lately types about 'growing the game' and how important it is to have teams succeed in crummy markets at the Leafs expense.

Time for Leaf fans and like minded fans of other big market teams to show their support for Fehr and get rid of Bettman Inc. once and for all!

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Maybe the problem is with the Leafs management and not with communism.

Crazy perspective, I know.

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that damn obahma took are jobs and now he took are leafs!!!!

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There is thing called management, team's who are usually poor in that departement are usually poor team on the ice.

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Both get alot of extra time in the offseason

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Millions of dollars in payroll savings for approximately the same results?

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so teams should only be allowed to sign local boys? and fans of theres?
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the leafs should get to pick first overall because they are in a big market?

sounds fair

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I forgot that Bettman invented the draft.

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I never knew Ron Paul was a Leafs fan

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I forgot that Bettman invented the draft.
And that he's a communist.

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Take a deep breath, man.

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Toronto probably could have drafted many kids from the OHL but believed some one from another province, state and/or country would be a better player or fit for them.

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And that he's a communist.
Don't forget to support Fehr in the take down of Bettman Inc.!!

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They get another good, but not great draft pick!

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And that he's a communist.
Well that is obvious if you've seen the Karl Marx Tattoo that covers his back


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so teams should only be allowed to sign local boys? and fans of theres?
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the leafs should get to pick first overall because they are in a big market?

sounds fair


I dont think that was his point. He feels like the leafs should get compensation for helping small market teams. They are giving money to teams to help build a system where everyone has a equal chance to make the playoffs, while the leafs are the only to of not made the playoffs cone seasons end. What happenss to all these small teams if the leafs just say, **** it good luck were done welfaring

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It's not untrue that the fanbase that financially contributes the most to the league gets jeered by the rest, but that's because of the hockey being played, which the NHL does nothing to hinder or prevent the Leafs from being successful in terms of rules etc.

We've had the deep pockets, bury-your-problems advantage for decades before the cap was introduced and that obviously amounted to nada.

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Absolutely nothing I would say. They do not get to have many star players anymore, they are forced to give welfare handouts to teams that have few fans to begin with, and the current system prevents them from making the playoffs. Even worse, they get mocked and jeered by fans of teams that they are forced to give these welfare handouts to!

Fans in Toronto are paying steak prices for hot dog meals, and I would think they are getting mighty tired of it. Good Ontario boys like Tavares and Stamkos should be Maple Leafs IMO but Bettman's commie system prevents this. The Leafs wanted to sign Tavares but a certain New York lawyer forbid it! What nonsense . It is not only the Leafs that are getting the raw end of things either. Crosby was a Montreal fan but Bettman's rigged system forced him to go to Pittsburgh instead. Can you imagine if Crosby was a Hab and the Leafs had players like Stamkos and Tavares?

I think alot of long time fans are also getting mighty tired of being lectured by the johnny come lately types about 'growing the game' and how important it is to have teams succeed in crummy markets at the Leafs expense.

Time for Leaf fans and like minded fans of other big market teams to show their support for Fehr and get rid of Bettman Inc. once and for all!
The answer to this is that it wasn't Gary Bettman who traded the second overall pick to the Boston Bruins for Phil Kessel and Gary Bettman wasn't around when the Leafs franchise started nosediving after the 1967 Stanley Cup. If you want to blame anyone you need to blame the Canadian Hockey media based mostly in Toronto who won't let the Leafs rebuild from the ground floor up without stirring up plenty of National Enquirer type garbage all the time. Have a nice offseason Leafs fan.

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It would be interesting if teams got the rights to player's born in their regions.

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It would be interesting if teams got the rights to player's born in their regions.
It would also be horrifically dumb.

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I dont think that was his point. He feels like the leafs should get compensation for helping small market teams. They are giving money to teams to help build a system where everyone has a equal chance to make the playoffs, while the leafs are the only to of not made the playoffs cone seasons end. What happenss to all these small teams if the leafs just say, **** it good luck were done welfaring
Exactly. If there was a luxury tax things would be different, but the current system puniushes the Leafs for being successful period and has funnelled money and players to places like Phoenix and Atlanta. I would rather watch top players play for the Leafs on Saturday night then have to watch lowly highlights of them playing in more obscure places.

The Leafs and other teams should end the current welfaring. They get nothing out of it anyways. And to make matters worse, fans of teams who receive tht money always mock the Leafs anyways.

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I dont think that was his point. He feels like the leafs should get compensation for helping small market teams. They are giving money to teams to help build a system where everyone has a equal chance to make the playoffs, while the leafs are the only to of not made the playoffs cone seasons end. What happenss to all these small teams if the leafs just say, **** it good luck were done welfaring
Instead of saying that, they should try saying "**** it, we're done assembling horrible hockey teams."

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It would also be horrifically dumb.
Well the teams are simply reaping the seeds they sow. Its a completely valid system of sport.

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It would be interesting if teams got the rights to player's born in their regions.
The whole South East division (bar Jets), Pacific division, and Nashville would be royally ****ed.

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The Leafs are in this position because they have resisted participating in this "communist system". Basically, your post is one of those "don't hate the player, hate the game" types. Sorry but "the game", this communist draft system you speak of, isn't changing so the Leafs should probably adapt to it.

In this case, hate the player; Leafs management/ownership.

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