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What do the Leafs and their fans get out of the 'New NHL'?
Nobody's accusing the leafs of having great management, but at least before they could try and spend the money they generated from their fans to bring in top players. Now they can't spend to bring in top talent and are forced to cut checks to the weak sisters. Again, what do Leaf fans get out of this?
Having to overpay for UFAs all the time too ! Having to overpay to keep own players...
I've always believed in territorial rights for 2 players.
Ottawa and Toronto would have rights to 2 players each in Ontario.
Canadiens for 2 players from Quebec.
Vancouver 2 from BC. Calgary and Edmonton 2 each from Alberta.
Winnipeg 2 from Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
The players would not necessarily have to be born in the province but if they spent the majority of the time from 6 to 15 then they're good to go.
Similarily US teams could be broken up geographically. The Flyers and Pens 2 each from PA. Sabres, Rangers and Islanders 2 each from NY.
The Wild 2 from MN, Wings 2 from Michigan etc.
This system would be fair for Canadian fans who haven't seen a SC Canadian winner in 19 years (this year will be 20)
And hopefully get NHL teams more financially involved in minor hockey in their areas.
BUT more importantly I think it's absolutely wrong that a 18 y/o kid is forced to play in a foreign country in his chosen sport.
American kid drafted by a Canadian team. Canadian kid drafted by an American team.
However players in provinces/states that don't have an NHL team, like Nova Scotia those players go in a universal draft. So Sid would NOT have been able to pick his team.
And any team using their geographical rights would let the league know of that and the player they are picking and use their draft position to pick said player.
Just my two cents.......
I suspect today most Americans would be against this but in 50 years when most NHL players are American, they'll have a change of opinion.
I've always believed in territorial rights for 2 players.
Ottawa and Toronto would have rights to 2 players each in Ontario.
Canadiens for 2 players from Quebec.
Vancouver 2 from BC. Calgary and Edmonton 2 each from Alberta.
Winnipeg 2 from Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
The players would not necessarily have to be born in the province but if they spent the majority of the time from 6 to 15 then they're good to go.
Similarily US teams could be broken up geographically. The Flyers and Pens 2 each from PA. Sabres, Rangers and Islanders 2 each from NY.
The Wild 2 from MN, Wings 2 from Michigan etc.
This system would be fair for Canadian fans who haven't seen a SC Canadian winner in 19 years (this year will be 20)
And hopefully get NHL teams more financially involved in minor hockey in their areas.
BUT more importantly I think it's absolutely wrong that a 18 y/o kid is forced to play in a foreign country in his chosen sport.
American kid drafted by a Canadian team. Canadian kid drafted by an American team.
However players in provinces/states that don't have an NHL team, like Nova Scotia those players go in a universal draft. So Sid would NOT have been able to pick his team.
And any team using their geographical rights would let the league know of that and the player they are picking and use their draft position to pick said player.
Just my two cents.......
I suspect today most Americans would be against this but in 50 years when most NHL players are American, they'll have a change of opinion.
How does this make any sense to anyone? Yeah, the Panthers will do great with this. You want Ontario kids, freaking draft them. Don't make up lopsided policies that only benefit your team.
I've always believed in territorial rights for 2 players.
Ottawa and Toronto would have rights to 2 players each in Ontario.
Canadiens for 2 players from Quebec.
Vancouver 2 from BC. Calgary and Edmonton 2 each from Alberta.
Winnipeg 2 from Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
The players would not necessarily have to be born in the province but if they spent the majority of the time from 6 to 15 then they're good to go.
Similarily US teams could be broken up geographically. The Flyers and Pens 2 each from PA. Sabres, Rangers and Islanders 2 each from NY.
The Wild 2 from MN, Wings 2 from Michigan etc.
This system would be fair for Canadian fans who haven't seen a SC Canadian winner in 19 years (this year will be 20)
And hopefully get NHL teams more financially involved in minor hockey in their areas.
BUT more importantly I think it's absolutely wrong that a 18 y/o kid is forced to play in a foreign country in his chosen sport.
American kid drafted by a Canadian team. Canadian kid drafted by an American team.
However players in provinces/states that don't have an NHL team, like Nova Scotia those players go in a universal draft. So Sid would NOT have been able to pick his team.
And any team using their geographical rights would let the league know of that and the player they are picking and use their draft position to pick said player.
Just my two cents.......
I suspect today most Americans would be against this but in 50 years when most NHL players are American, they'll have a change of opinion.
What if the Kid from Toronto that the Leaf's use their "rights" on is a Bruins or Wings fan?
Or what if the Kid moved around a lot. I have friends that moved from BC to Alberta to Ontario to Manitoba a between 6-18.
How does this make any sense to anyone? Yeah, the Panthers will do great with this. You want Ontario kids, freaking draft them. Don't make up lopsided policies that only benefit your team.
There's already lopsided policies that favour the Panthers. Seems they want their cake and eat it too.
The majority owners of the Leafs, Raptors and Air Canada Centre just sold their stake in the company for approximately $1.4 billion.
I would suggest their business in the "new NHL" is very healthy.
I love reading the asinine comments about "media pressure" affecting the team's performance and keeping free agents away from Toronto.
That is such a BS excuse it is laughable. There is 10 times the media pressure for teams like the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox. Somehow they manage to continue to sign high profile free agents and are World Series contenders every year.
Premier free agents haven't been coming to Toronto for two reasons:
1. The team has sucked since the Lock Out. When free agents have a chance to pick a team if the money is equal they are going to pick a team that gives them a chance to win.
2. The Leafs under Brian Burke have refused to offer those long salary cap bending contracts that are so common place in other markets. The Leafs could have made a run at Kovalchuk a couple of summers ago, but refused to offer the kind of term that Kovalchuk was seeking. Until the Leafs step up and start offering those kinds of deals it's unlikely they will attract top tier free agents.
The people who run the Leafs are responsible for the Leafs not being able to take advantage of their location and resources on the ice. Nobody else. The policies with regards to UFA age and cap bending contracts should benefit the Leafs more than anyone else. Yet they don't. Whose fault is that?
I've always believed in territorial rights for 2 players.
Ottawa and Toronto would have rights to 2 players each in Ontario.
Canadiens for 2 players from Quebec.
Vancouver 2 from BC. Calgary and Edmonton 2 each from Alberta.
Winnipeg 2 from Manitoba and Saskatchewan.
The players would not necessarily have to be born in the province but if they spent the majority of the time from 6 to 15 then they're good to go.
Similarily US teams could be broken up geographically. The Flyers and Pens 2 each from PA. Sabres, Rangers and Islanders 2 each from NY.
The Wild 2 from MN, Wings 2 from Michigan etc.
This system would be fair for Canadian fans who haven't seen a SC Canadian winner in 19 years (this year will be 20)
And hopefully get NHL teams more financially involved in minor hockey in their areas. BUT more importantly I think it's absolutely wrong that a 18 y/o kid is forced to play in a foreign country in his chosen sport.
American kid drafted by a Canadian team. Canadian kid drafted by an American team.
However players in provinces/states that don't have an NHL team, like Nova Scotia those players go in a universal draft. So Sid would NOT have been able to pick his team.
And any team using their geographical rights would let the league know of that and the player they are picking and use their draft position to pick said player.
Just my two cents.......
I suspect today most Americans would be against this but in 50 years when most NHL players are American, they'll have a change of opinion.
Oh the humanity
seriously??!?! seriously?!?!?! sorry kid, you may be making tons of cash playing the sport you love, but your going to have to move to AMERICA!!! LOL. what about all the russians and sweedes etc...ridiculous logic
Go pay for ohl tickets to develop these players in ontario and then try watching them leave in a couple years and your paying for the new team as well. Good deal right ?
Are you kidding me? You're really crying about this? That's pathetic.
Last edited by SLAPSHOT723: 04-04-2012 at 03:11 PM.
seriously??!?! seriously?!?!?! sorry kid, you may be making tons of cash playing the sport you love, but your going to have to move to AMERICA!!! LOL. what about all the russians and sweedes etc...ridiculous logic
In your mind maybe it's ridiculous but strangely enough there's a lot of Americans (I've read on baseball, football and basketball forums) that love the idea of territorial rights. (Just not in hockey) Many think that players drafted by the Raptors shouldn't be forced to play in a foreign country.....but I guess that's okay, right?
In your mind maybe it's ridiculous but strangely enough there's a lot of Americans (I've read on baseball, football and basketball forums) that love the idea of territorial rights. (Just not in hockey) Many think that players drafted by the Raptors shouldn't be forced to play in a foreign country.....but I guess that's okay, right?
I cannot speak for basketball fans, and do not think that those in favor territorial rights would be in the majority. Sports has become Global, hockey players, basketball players, soccer players and baseball players flock from all over the world to play in the best leagues possible and make the best money possible. In order to keep everything fair, and give all teams the same opportunity to win the current system is the only way to do things...
as others have said, you should watch the Olympics and IIHF, exactly what you are looking for.
In your mind maybe it's ridiculous but strangely enough there's a lot of Americans (I've read on baseball, football and basketball forums) that love the idea of territorial rights. (Just not in hockey) Many think that players drafted by the Raptors shouldn't be forced to play in a foreign country.....but I guess that's okay, right?
Big surprise, people are in favor of stupid policies that would benefit their teams. I don't see how this supports your argument that it would be a good idea.
In your mind maybe it's ridiculous but strangely enough there's a lot of Americans (I've read on baseball, football and basketball forums) that love the idea of territorial rights. (Just not in hockey) Many think that players drafted by the Raptors shouldn't be forced to play in a foreign country.....but I guess that's okay, right?
If you read HFBoards regularly, you shouldn't be surprised that stupid sports fans exist.
That is such a BS excuse it is laughable. There is 10 times the media pressure for teams like the New York Yankees and the Boston Red Sox. Somehow they manage to continue to sign high profile free agents and are World Series contenders every year.
Maybe because there is no cap in baseball and those teams can spend three times what other teams can. Free agents sign with those teams because they offer more cash.
Big market teams have incentives to attract the best players. The marginal revenue Toronto will get for an extra win is certainly greater than that of another win for Phoenix. Good players would rather play there, a higher HRR means more money for them. Even certain teams that receive modest amounts of revenue sharing (and above the floor) might prefer star players on the Toronto's of the league to increase HRR and a bigger rev share pot.
Revenue sharing in sports isn't the communist utopia some think it is.
The NuGary NHL is a joke, has been since they signed the agreement.
-Salary Cap
Oh nice. everyone gets to compete. Except no more dynasties. No more multiple stars one one team. And no money out of my pocket to support
other teams.
And we still have 4 teams in trouble.
-Distribution of money
This is ridiculous, the fact we are paying other teams in the name of fairness. Just ridiculous.
And after all that, there will always be some markets will player will never ever want to go, and why should they, I wan never want to work anywhere I hated.
