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Indiana Gov signs bills to allow deadly force against police
Something like this happened in Montreal couple of years ago , cops entered a home illegally and the guy shoot at one of them thinking it was intruders , his family was with him.The guy in question was known in the community and owned a inside golf course or something , and he won in court , which was surprising with the way cops always seem to come out on top in these situation.
There is more to that. The police arrived in camouflaged cars, with no uniforms. The reason is that it was Laval police who came to arrest this guy in Longueuil, so they were outside their jurisdiction and didn't wanted to be sniffed by the local police.
The man also immediately surrendered when the police announced themselves. He was entirely in his right to defend himself against a bunch of armed people who raided his house. Not so once he knew they were police.
Agreed. But in this specific case, it's not if they entered illegally, it's if the homeowner THINK they entered illegally.
Meh. If they were outside their jurisdiction, how is that "legally" entering the house? They don't have authority there because it's not their jurisdiction.
If you have to avoid other policemen to launch your little Rambo raid, how can you be said to be acting legally? Why not just talk to the police unit who does have the authority?
Meh. If they were outside their jurisdiction, how is that "legally" entering the house? They don't have authority there because it's not their jurisdiction.
If you have to avoid other policemen to launch your little Rambo raid, how can you be said to be acting legally? Why not just talk to the police unit who does have the authority?
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You got confused. The longueuil police raid was definetly illegal, the police had no business acting like they did.
I was talking about the new bill in Indiana. In that case, you are allowed to kill policemen if you THINK the police isn't there legally.
You got confused. The longueuil police raid was definetly illegal, the police had no business acting like they did.
I was talking about the new bill in Indiana. In that case, you are allowed to kill policemen if you THINK the police isn't there legally.
Ahh OK.
And I think you're interpreting the law here. It's more like "you can use firearms to defend your home against all intrusions unless you know it was a policeman."
If you had good reason not to be sure, you're not liable. It's the officer's duty to announce himself clearly and properly.
Or you could do the minimally responsible thing and at least call up the relevant wikipedia article instead of demanding everyone else do your homework for you.
