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04-10-2012, 02:15 PM
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How much confidence does the fanbase have in Drabek?
I think he maxes out at a solid #2...

But more realistically, I feel he's a great #3

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I think he maxes out at a solid #2...

But more realistically, I feel he's a great #3
So fans feel confident with him on the mound going into tonights game?

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I feel somewhat confident. Not as much as if Romero/Morrow/Alvarez was on the mound, but more confident than if Laffey or Cecil (or maybe even McGowan) were on the mound.

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He seems to have gelled into the team unit pretty easily. Even cracks a smile every now and again (I know, weird eh). Has flashed the leather twice with 2 insane catches that left you thinking, how in the world did he get to that ball. His offense is still sputtering, but he's shown signs of coming out of it. Good job along the basepaths aswell legging out a triple the other day and beating a throw to home on a groundout. He's never going to be a darling of the media or a fan favourite, that's just not who he is, but he's been doing a decent job at playing baseball right now, which is you know...what he's actually here for.

Haven't seen/heard a whiff about his dad.
From the little I know of the sport, and what I can see-they're putting him in a position with no pressure: batting 9th, willing to let him "play his own game", and just be comfortable. They don't seem unduly concerned with hitting, or lack thereof-he seems to be the only one who isn't waiting on pitches the way the rest of the team is being taught, and they seem fine with that.

Just letting him do his own thing with no pressure. And I agree from what I've read he has fit in quite nicely-one of the boys as it were. Playing in a city were baseball ISNT king, and he isn't in the spotlight, seems to work well for him.

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He seems to have gelled into the team unit pretty easily. Even cracks a smile every now and again (I know, weird eh). Has flashed the leather twice with 2 insane catches that left you thinking, how in the world did he get to that ball. His offense is still sputtering, but he's shown signs of coming out of it. Good job along the basepaths aswell legging out a triple the other day and beating a throw to home on a groundout. He's never going to be a darling of the media or a fan favourite, that's just not who he is, but he's been doing a decent job at playing baseball right now, which is you know...what he's actually here for.

Haven't seen/heard a whiff about his dad.
Well that's good to hear. His Dad seemed to get too involved when he was in St. Louis, and that created problems with the coaching staff.

He has a boatload of talent, I just hope he realizes his potential. La Russa talked at my college, and it was clear that he was not a fan of his.

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04-10-2012, 02:52 PM
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So fans feel confident with him on the mound going into tonights game?
I will feel confident with Drabek once he stops walking people. That was his big downfall last season in the MLB and PCL. He walked 9 batters in 19 innings in the spring and if he keeps walking people at that rate his season will probably look similar to last year. Hopefully that was just rust and his mechanics are actually improved.

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Well that's good to hear. His Dad seemed to get too involved when he was in St. Louis, and that created problems with the coaching staff.

He has a boatload of talent, I just hope he realizes his potential. La Russa talked at my college, and it was clear that he was not a fan of his.
What did he say?

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Thats going to be tough on guys arms ffs. 4 man rotation is ridiculous considering there are very very few days off.Unless Farrel plans on extensively using the bullpen and limiting starts to 6-7 innings I just can't see it working very well imo
There are off-days positioned in ways that ever single pitcher will get minimum 4 rest days in between starts, which is exactly what pitchers need/want in between starts. It'll just be as if we had no off days with a five man rotation.

Lots of teams do this at different points in the season. The second that there isn't a 4 day rest period for each starter, the jays will add a 5th man to the rotation.

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Well that's good to hear. His Dad seemed to get too involved when he was in St. Louis, and that created problems with the coaching staff.

He has a boatload of talent, I just hope he realizes his potential. La Russa talked at my college, and it was clear that he was not a fan of his.
I'm sure he didn't talk about how much he doesn't like Rasmus at your college more likely just said inspirational stuff

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Somewhat of a weird idea here, but hear me out:

What if the tallying of Wins-Losses in the MLB were to be changed to reflect the SERIES outcome? You win a 3-game series against a team, you get a W. You lose, an L. We took 2 of 3 games against Cleveland, so we would be 1-0. Two or Four game series could either be tallied according to run-differential or chalked up as a "tie" similar to the way Soccer does it.

Would this effect the standings much, or at all? I think it would have SOME effect since it would de-value the "series sweep", but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

In essence I think it's a decent idea because a team that wins the majority of it's series' should be considered a postseason team...while a team that sweeps the bad teams but loses or ties against the better teams should not be considered as highly. Perhaps this might even bring some degree of equality between the lopsided the divisions?


The main fault that I can think of is that there would be a whole lot of meaningless games introduced around League....where the neither team benefits or suffers from the third game in a 3-game series if the first two games went the same way. On the other hand, it definitely adds more excitement to the third game in a 1-1 split....


Just a random idea that crossed my mind. Any thoughts?

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So after some thought, I feel bad about flipping out about Santos yesterday.

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Somewhat of a weird idea here, but hear me out:

What if the tallying of Wins-Losses in the MLB were to be changed to reflect the SERIES outcome? You win a 3-game series against a team, you get a W. You lose, an L. We took 2 of 3 games against Cleveland, so we would be 1-0. Two or Four game series could either be tallied according to run-differential or chalked up as a "tie" similar to the way Soccer does it.

Would this effect the standings much, or at all? I think it would have SOME effect since it would de-value the "series sweep", but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

In essence I think it's a decent idea because a team that wins the majority of it's series' should be considered a postseason team...while a team that sweeps the bad teams but loses or ties against the better teams should not be considered as highly. Perhaps this might even bring some degree of equality between the lopsided the divisions?


The main fault that I can think of is that there would be a whole lot of meaningless games introduced around League....where the neither team benefits or suffers from the third game in a 3-game series if the first two games went the same way. On the other hand, it definitely adds more excitement to the third game in a 1-1 split....


Just a random idea that crossed my mind. Any thoughts?
The main fault you mentioned is a BIG fault. Why would fans want to go see a meaningless game that didn't matter? Ticket sales would obviously drop and all that just to satisfy teams in tough divisions? I see no reason why MLB would do this. Its an interesting idea, but I could never see it happening.

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Somewhat of a weird idea here, but hear me out:

What if the tallying of Wins-Losses in the MLB were to be changed to reflect the SERIES outcome? You win a 3-game series against a team, you get a W. You lose, an L. We took 2 of 3 games against Cleveland, so we would be 1-0. Two or Four game series could either be tallied according to run-differential or chalked up as a "tie" similar to the way Soccer does it.

Would this effect the standings much, or at all? I think it would have SOME effect since it would de-value the "series sweep", but I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing.

In essence I think it's a decent idea because a team that wins the majority of it's series' should be considered a postseason team...while a team that sweeps the bad teams but loses or ties against the better teams should not be considered as highly. Perhaps this might even bring some degree of equality between the lopsided the divisions?


The main fault that I can think of is that there would be a whole lot of meaningless games introduced around League....where the neither team benefits or suffers from the third game in a 3-game series if the first two games went the same way. On the other hand, it definitely adds more excitement to the third game in a 1-1 split....


Just a random idea that crossed my mind. Any thoughts?
I'd much rather just see a balanced schedule. Have every team play every other team in the league for one home and one away series (although since 29 teams x 6 games is 12 games too many, so maybe inter-league games can be ~5 games).

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Who would have thought our best player would be Encarnacion?

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Hechavarria is on fire
3-4 tonight and just hit a 2rbi triple
hitting .455 right now with a 1.115 OPS

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Hechavarria is on fire
3-4 tonight and just hit a 2rbi triple
hitting .455 right now with a 1.115 OPS

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Who would have thought our best player would be Encarnacion?
Johnson has been great as well. Just a pleasure watching him work the count after suffering through the last two years of Aaron Hill.

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Hechavarria is on fire
3-4 tonight and just hit a 2rbi triple
hitting .455 right now with a 1.115 OPS
god, he's such a terrible hitter.

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3-4 tonight and just hit a 2rbi triple
hitting .455 right now with a 1.115 OPS

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Hechavarria is on fire
3-4 tonight and just hit a 2rbi triple
hitting .455 right now with a 1.115 OPS
Some people will point to AAA for this year and last years numbers, but he was hitting around 300 in the 10 games in AA last year with some pop too.

I wonder if something just clicked. Combine that with him apparently being 10 or so pounds heavier now.

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Johnson has been great as well. Just a pleasure watching him work the count after suffering through the last two years of Aaron Hill.
He's been great, I've been really impressed with him.

If Hech keeps hitting like this we'll have a good problem on our hands.

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Drabek was impressive for me last night. Dat 2 seamerrrrrrrrr wow

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Drabek was impressive for me last night. Dat 2 seamerrrrrrrrr wow
Maybe he's finally ready to break out. If so Toronto will have the dirtiest of all rotations (barring Tampa) for years to come. Drabek, Morrow, Alvarez, Romero, pick a pitcher in the minors who looks amazing.

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