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04-05-2012, 05:50 PM
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I can still remember the day that car salesman promised me the weight of the belted child seat would not be recognized by the air bag sensor.

(exhales) Yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhh......

I would trust Baghdad Bob over anyone from the Isles organization at this point.

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He's lying. His job is to get you to pay money. He has nothing else to entice you with. There's no way sales rep is hearing inside information (at least information that's accurate).

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It's really so simple...

Your response to the rep should have been...

"When I see shovels in the ground on a new arena in Nassau you have my commitment on season tickets. Short of that if you'd like to give me season tickets for free now I promise to pay with a credit card I hear rumors that I'll be approved for this summer."

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Well you know what? I won't believe it until I'm sitting in my seat on Opening Night 2016!
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Timeline 1

I think it's best to take what that ticket rep said with a grain of salt, but some of his assertions may have some merit.

Here is a timeline on what has transpired from August 2011

Aug 1, 2011: Arena referendum in Nassau defeated http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=585584

September 21: The last time the Isles conference wall paper was used before a change http://video.islanders.nhl.com/video...=756&id=124051

September 27: Judge Jed Rakoff dismisses most of Irving Picard's case against the Wilpons
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/sp...dismissed.html

October 3: According to a Queens source Wang showed no interest in WP while the Mets put in more than one bid.
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/111009993

October 4: SNY, the Mets owned network, brings their cameras to Iceworks
http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?co...y_19842437&v=3

October 5: The Crains New York article regarding WP appears on the SNY owned Metsblog, a strong indication the Isles did NOT bid for WP
http://www.metsblog.com/2011/10/05/s...-redevlopment/

NorthShore LIJ logo appears on the Isles conference wall paper for the first time. http://video.islanders.nhl.com/video...=756&id=126237

Saul Katz, the co-owner of the Mets, is the chair of the board for North Shore LIJ http://www.sterlingequities.com/about/leadership.php

October 6: The Isles show up at the other Mets TV network, WPIX
http://www.wpix.com/news/morningnews...0,748680.story
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_New_York_Mets_season

November 16: The Mets unveil their new uniforms for 2012 season http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/video/pl...nt_id=19996669

However, on the same day, the Isles unveil their uniform changes as well
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=601837

November 18: two days after uniform unveilings, SNY brings their cameras into the Iceworks again
http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?co...y_19999931&v=3

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Timeline 2:

Jan 30, 2012: Nassau County announces they will hold a meeting regarding the Coliseum sometime in February at the Nassau County legislature

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo...%3Ai=1.3489497

Jan 31, 2012: The Isles announce they will play an exhibition game in Brooklyn on October 2, 2012.
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.h...14498&navid=DL

Feb 9: Ex Met Jose Reyes and several other Mets show up at the Isles home game vs Montreal (the Isles lost 4-2)
http://www.*************.com/index.p...&#entry1211973

Feb 14: The Islanders want a deadline before the end of 2012 while Nassau County is willing to wait until the end of 2012
http://savetheisles.blogspot.ca/2012...gislature.html
Ed Mangano says the Islanders must come up with a privately funded Coliseum or else after the hearing http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo...452&nopaging=1

Feb 24: Barclay's Center CEO Brett Yormark says the October 2 exhibition game is a ""sampling opportunity''.
http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo...%3Ai=1.3550252

Feb 25: The Coliseum is rumored to undergo some renovations this summer http://www.*************.com/index.p...&#entry1224380

Feb 26: The above rumor is also confirmed by BD Gallofhttps://twitter.com/#!/BDGallof/status/173873962697244672

Feb 27: Ed mangano says an announcement will be made regarding the Coliseum
https://twitter.com/#!/edmangano/sta...28376159129600

Mar 3: SMG hires a new general manager to overlook at Coliseum operations http://www.newyorkislanderfancentral....html?spref=tw

Mar 15: Bruce Ratner shows up at the Isles game vs the Flyers (Isles lost 3-2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkx5_8NH4YE
It is obvious he is courting the Islanders, but if you listen between 1:20 and 1:30, Ratner said he believes Wang wants a solution in Nassau but if that doesn't work out, there will likely be serious discussions. This is an indication that Wang is likely looking elsewhere beyond Nassau and Brooklyn.

Mar 16: Mets reach a settlement with Irving Picard
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ee-mets-owners

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Mar 23, 2012: The Islanders announce the tickets for the Barclays exhibition game will be sold starting March 29
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.h...23677&navid=DL

The same day the Coliseum asbestos problem is leaked to the press http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...ng-Island.html

Apr 1 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2...th-howie-rose/

Wang talks about the Isles arena situation in the first segment he wants the Isles to stay in the New York area but can't give any more details.

In the last segment, it's interesting he didn't mention Nassau but other counties of Long Island (Brooklyn Queens, as far as Suffolk). He also wanted to make the Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano and the Town of Hemptead supervisor Kate Murray accountable. This is a sure fire indication things are frosty between the Isles and the powers in Nassau.

Apr 2:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ions-approval/

An approval of highway ramps to Willets point next to Citi Field leaked to the public

In a March 22 letter to state officials, the highway administration said that a pair of proposed highway ramps would enhance traffic circulation between the development site, known as Willets Point, and the Van Wyck Expressway.

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Mar 23, 2012: The Islanders announce the tickets for the Barclays exhibition game will be sold starting March 29
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.h...23677&navid=DL

The same day the Coliseum asbestos problem is leaked to the press http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...ng-Island.html

Apr 1 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2...th-howie-rose/

Wang talks about the Isles arena situation in the first segment he wants the Isles to stay in the New York area but can't give any more details.

In the last segment, it's interesting he didn't mention Nassau but other counties of Long Island (Brooklyn Queens, as far as Suffolk). He also wanted to make the Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano and the Town of Hemptead supervisor Kate Murray accountable. This is a sure fire indication things are frosty between the Isles and the powers in Nassau.

Apr 2:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ions-approval/

An approval of highway ramps to Willets point next to Citi Field leaked to the public

In a March 22 letter to state officials, the highway administration said that a pair of proposed highway ramps would enhance traffic circulation between the development site, known as Willets Point, and the Van Wyck Expressway.
Nicely done, I was at Citi Field today. I would love to see the Isles next door. This would be a dream come true, although the traffic for the game today was out of control. Imagine when the Isles and Mets play at the same time what chaos there would be.

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Nicely done, I was at Citi Field today. I would love to see the Isles next door. This would be a dream come true, although the traffic for the game today was out of control. Imagine when the Isles and Mets play at the same time what chaos there would be.
I appreciate your feedback. What do you think about Mangano's tweets yesterday regarding working towards a solution with the Isles?

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Nicely done, I was at Citi Field today. I would love to see the Isles next door. This would be a dream come true, although the traffic for the game today was out of control. Imagine when the Isles and Mets play at the same time what chaos there would be.
That, my friend, would be welcome chaos on my end...bc it means games that mean something (for the isles in spring) or even late october baseball from the mets...which means something too. Mix in the fact that there are MULTIPLE routes via public transportation, and its a no brainer. Id still rather them be in nassau, but if not, WP is fine with me. Theres NO parking in brooklyn and that will be a complete mess traffic wise

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All of the people who are clamoring for Queens need to take a long look at the state of New York politics right now. The city is cutting almost $500 million from the budget this year -- if they try to slash funding for schools/transportation/etc. while simultaneously spending public money on yet another arena the taxpayers will revolt.

Bloomberg fought a long, tough battle to get Barclays Center built and the terrible deals that the city made for Yankee Stadium/CitiField will haunt it for years. Is Bloomberg really going to spend his last year in office fighting for the Isles, who nobody in NYC cares about?

Plus, I'm not sure about this part, but I think that there are still unanswered eminent domain/environmental cleanup questions about Willets Point.

Overall, I think that the odds of the Isles having something built in Queens by 2015 are slim to none.

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That, my friend, would be welcome chaos on my end...bc it means games that mean something (for the isles in spring) or even late october baseball from the mets...which means something too. Mix in the fact that there are MULTIPLE routes via public transportation, and its a no brainer. Id still rather them be in nassau, but if not, WP is fine with me. Theres NO parking in brooklyn and that will be a complete mess traffic wise
Can't be any worse than when the u.s tennis open was going on and either the mets would be home or the jets would be opening at shea... The rare overlap would be a welcomed inconvenience relative to moving elsewhere.

I am biased to nassau but trying to be objective, queens may be the best place for this team to move and partnering with the mets would be beneficial to the team in a number of respects.

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All of the people who are clamoring for Queens need to take a long look at the state of New York politics right now. The city is cutting almost $500 million from the budget this year -- if they try to slash funding for schools/transportation/etc. while simultaneously spending public money on yet another arena the taxpayers will revolt.

Bloomberg fought a long, tough battle to get Barclays Center built and the terrible deals that the city made for Yankee Stadium/CitiField will haunt it for years. Is Bloomberg really going to spend his last year in office fighting for the Isles, who nobody in NYC cares about?

Plus, I'm not sure about this part, but I think that there are still unanswered eminent domain/environmental cleanup questions about Willets Point.

Overall, I think that the odds of the Isles having something built in Queens by 2015 are slim to none.
The one thing about NYC is that it is always in a state of motion construction wise. Even with today's economy there are many big projects going forward, Downtown, new tunnels etc.

NY has many ways to finance. A perfect example is the construction unions who are starting to use the power of their pension funds to finance many big projects. Good for the city, great for the unions who win win.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/29/business/29labor.html

NYC can do what Nassau can't. It really is that simple. Its just up to Wang.

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Here is some more fuel for steve55's fire (and mine)... islanders promoting mets tickets shows an ongoing relationship between the two clubs.



http://wl1.peer360.com/b/xbsAR88yrLA...9620&r=HGCGGFD

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Here is some more fuel for steve55's fire (and mine)... islanders promoting mets tickets shows an ongoing relationship between the two clubs.



http://wl1.peer360.com/b/xbsAR88yrLA...9620&r=HGCGGFD
The teams are only 10 years apart in age!
They both use Royal Blue, Orange and White in their logos
They Both have circular logos
Ramps are being built to accommodate something(????)
Their was a magic bullet!
The world is flat!
The gov't did......

Enough

The Mets can't even afford to put together a winning team, what the hell do they have to do with getting the Isles to Queens. For that to happen the owners of the Mets would have to buy the Isles and bring them there after 2015...again they can't afford ****. Why would teh Mets want to partner with them if there is no room for them? Where do teh Isles go? Brooklyn at least has a stadium that can be fitted for hockey.
Don't you guys see this is posturing by Wang to get the lazy mofos of Nassau off their buttocks.

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Here is some more fuel for steve55's fire (and mine)... islanders promoting mets tickets shows an ongoing relationship between the two clubs.



http://wl1.peer360.com/b/xbsAR88yrLA...9620&r=HGCGGFD
Just got my email about Mets seats at season tix discounts for isle fans for next few games... the cross marketing getting into high gear? For years I hoped these two would team up.. only small steps here but all positive.

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Willets Point would be perfect....we could actually build our own Hockey Arena(not Barclays) and its closer than Brooklyn while still be in the city....I have said all Along that Queens would be the Best Option....

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Just got my email about Mets seats at season tix discounts for isle fans for next few games... the cross marketing getting into high gear? For years I hoped these two would team up.. only small steps here but all positive.
I would take this with a grain of salt. the Isles also cross market with a few Credit Unions, and Newsday and a few others. Hell, check the back of can or Coke or Pepsi during the season, the ticket offers are there too. It's just another avenue to try and peddle this deplorable product.

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Willets Point would be perfect....we could actually build our own Hockey Arena(not Barclays) and its closer than Brooklyn while still be in the city....I have said all Along that Queens would be the Best Option....
I am curious to know what part of the ticket base comes form Suffolk, and is it worth alienating those people. I come from Suffolk and I am not going to schlep all the way into Queens for a hockey game on a weeknight, it's just too far and too much traffic to deal with to get t the game by opening puck drop. My guess is they risk losing more by moving to Queens than staying in Nassau.

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Mar 23, 2012: The Islanders announce the tickets for the Barclays exhibition game will be sold starting March 29
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.h...23677&navid=DL

The same day the Coliseum asbestos problem is leaked to the press http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...ng-Island.html

Apr 1 http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2...th-howie-rose/

Wang talks about the Isles arena situation in the first segment he wants the Isles to stay in the New York area but can't give any more details.

In the last segment, it's interesting he didn't mention Nassau but other counties of Long Island (Brooklyn Queens, as far as Suffolk). He also wanted to make the Nassau County Executive Ed Mangano and the Town of Hemptead supervisor Kate Murray accountable. This is a sure fire indication things are frosty between the Isles and the powers in Nassau.

Apr 2:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ions-approval/

An approval of highway ramps to Willets point next to Citi Field leaked to the public

In a March 22 letter to state officials, the highway administration said that a pair of proposed highway ramps would enhance traffic circulation between the development site, known as Willets Point, and the Van Wyck Expressway.

On the Isles facebook page, they're teamed up with the Mets, giving away tickets to this weekends games against the Braves. Kinda strange.
https://www.facebook.com/NEWYORKISLANDERS

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please go the Quebec City!!

season tickets for me !!

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I am curious to know what part of the ticket base comes form Suffolk, and is it worth alienating those people. I come from Suffolk and I am not going to schlep all the way into Queens for a hockey game on a weeknight, it's just too far and too much traffic to deal with to get t the game by opening puck drop. My guess is they risk losing more by moving to Queens than staying in Nassau.
I personally think in Queens you will pick up more people from the City than you will lose from Suffolk.

Using my personal experience, getting to a weekday game in Nassau is a nightmare. I have to leave work at 4-4:30 to get there in time so I really only do it once in awhile. There are a ton of LI people that either work or live in the city. If you could leave the office at 6 and easily get to a game I think you could get alot more of them to attend. I am sure there are tons of 20 somethings like myself working in the city who would attend alot more games if the team had mass transit options.

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The teams are only 10 years apart in age!
They both use Royal Blue, Orange and White in their logos
They Both have circular logos
Ramps are being built to accommodate something(????)
Their was a magic bullet!
The world is flat!
The gov't did......

Enough

The Mets can't even afford to put together a winning team, what the hell do they have to do with getting the Isles to Queens. For that to happen the owners of the Mets would have to buy the Isles and bring them there after 2015...again they can't afford ****. Why would teh Mets want to partner with them if there is no room for them? Where do teh Isles go? Brooklyn at least has a stadium that can be fitted for hockey.
Don't you guys see this is posturing by Wang to get the lazy mofos of Nassau off their buttocks.
Don't be so sure about that. Granted, the Wilpons have a lot of debt right now. However, the reason payroll has been lowered so much was because of the looming nature of the Madoff case which is now behind them. Now that it's behind them & their settlement was VERY favorable, PLUS the fact that the Dodgers just sold for 2+ billion which only helps to up the Mets value, the Wilpons probably have the ability to spend big time again.

I don't want to turn this into a mets thread, but the Mets are in a rebuild situation of their own right now. There's really no point in abandoning it now to bring in the types of FA pitchers that have been available the last few years.

I really hope that the Isles do move to queens, but I hope the Wilpons have nothing to do with it other than being in favor of the idea and seeing it as a good opportunity to clean up the area. It would really suck if the Wilpons wound up owning the Islanders.

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I would take this with a grain of salt. the Isles also cross market with a few Credit Unions, and Newsday and a few others. Hell, check the back of can or Coke or Pepsi during the season, the ticket offers are there too. It's just another avenue to try and peddle this deplorable product.
yep as I said one small step, one grain of salt.. whatever it is, I view it as a positive no matter how small. The Mets are hurting for tix so this is a good promotion for them. I asked my rep today if there is any reciprocal agreement to which he said no, not currently.

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